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Martinair Last MIA Flight 04 SEP  
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3354 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

After nearly 22 years, Martinair is ending passenger services to Miami. Flight MP 646 will be departing MIA for the last time at 7:55 PM on Friday, September 4th, 2009.

PH-MCL pushing back from F15 tonight:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2882/dsc09029b.jpg

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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

Now that is a really sad one. I know airlines come and go, but there is something special about seeing Martinair at MIA. Truely will be missed. The one time I flew them, they were fantastic. Those flight attendant uniforms were a class of their own. It's the hats baby!

Anyhow, sorry to see this one go. Martinair and MIA is a classic much like LTU was. At least, that one still survives as Air Berlin.


User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 959 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4318 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 1):
The one time I flew them, they were fantastic.

Imo they are the best Dutch airline...


User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4230 times:

Too bad KLM and DL are not making any moves down to south Florida!  Sad

User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1691 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4145 times:



Quoting AA B777-200 (Reply 3):
Too bad KLM and DL are not making any moves down to south Florida!

It's all about yield...moreover, MIA can be reached easily via MCO, MEM and ATL from AMS.



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User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4089 times:

True! But since all the other BIG playes like BA, AF, IB, AZ etc have access to Miami, you would think (and hope)....

User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

Don't despair it's been mentioned on here multiple times already by MAH...and others that KLAF/DL will return to MIA from AMS. Not a matter of IF but WHEN...from what has been mentioned here it looks like DL 763 service is the likely candidate.

Let's wait and see...



Nothing better than making love at 35K Feet!
User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

Is MP cargo service also ending? I like seeing their MD-11's  Smile

MIA won't stay without nonstop AMS service for long. Might be a few months or years but there will be a nonstop again with someone  Smile

AA...here is your chance...you practically own MIA.


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3928 times:



Quoting MH017 (Reply 4):
MIA can be reached easily via MCO, MEM and ATL from AMS.

Or via CDG or LHR, as AAB777-200 says.

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):

MIA won't stay without nonstop AMS service for long. Might be a few months or years but there will be a nonstop again with someone Smile

I remember flying Air Florida somewhere back in the eighties! DC-10 I believe.



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

My congratulations to Martinair for 22 years of flying passengers safely to MIA. I had the pleasure of flying PH-MCJ on MIA-AMS on 01JUN. It was a great flight and long due to some mx issues which resulted in an elongated flight over the southern tip of Greenland. Seeing Greenland from a 767 at FL370 was an incredible experience and I shall never forget it, it was worth a flight time of 8hr53m.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3796 times:



Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 8):
Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):

MIA won't stay without nonstop AMS service for long. Might be a few months or years but there will be a nonstop again with someone Smile

I remember flying Air Florida somewhere back in the eighties! DC-10 I believe.

I believe Air Florida started MIA-LGW/AMS/BRU service in February 1981. A few other European destinations including Oslo and Stockholm were added a year or so later.


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3354 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3684 times:



Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):
Is MP cargo service also ending? I like seeing their MD-11's

Oh, no, fortunately, their freighter service will be staying. When Air Jamaica pulled out, they, too left their cargo operation here intact.

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):
AA...here is your chance...you practically own MIA.

I doubt it. AA pretty much ignored their chance to start MIA-MXP, so I doubt they'd go ahead and launch MIA-AMS.  Sad


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3639 times:

Delta/KLM will fill the gap within 12 months, hopefully April 2010 if trans-Atlantic travel starts bouncing back next summer. Don't think Martinair is purposely leaving with no replacement planned. MP's aircraft config is terrible for the Miami market which demands premium cabins.


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3354 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

Photos and video of the last departure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir65Ld4tkxg

Blog post coming soon. We just lost a really good airline and some great people.


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

Wow...what a great video...how touching! the passion of the MIA MP Staff was felt so much viewing that video.

C'mon KLAF/DL...



Nothing better than making love at 35K Feet!
User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Cool man!  Wink
Especially since they're using "Amsterdam" by Coldplay!


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3354 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

Photos of the crew, staff, and aircraft now up on my blog.

User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4469 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3169 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 13):
Photos and video of the last departure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir65L...4tkxg

Great send off, thanks for posting the video.

Does anyone know if the MIA staff will be transferred elsewhere in the system?


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3136 times:



Quoting N62NA (Reply 17):
Does anyone know if the MIA staff will be transferred elsewhere in the system?

Are they even direct employees of MP, or just members of a ground handling company wearing the MP uniform when handling their flights?



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User currently offlinePeteinmiami From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

Thanks for posting that video, very sad and very touching! Hopefully we will see KLM soon landing at MIA

User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

Sad to see Martinair leave but if DL or KLM send planes down for a AMS-MIA flight within a year or two I do not mind the change. I would love to see DL fly a a 763 on MIA-AMS. I feel that DL could do very well in MIA with a few added point to point routes.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3354 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2825 times:



Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 18):
Are they even direct employees of MP, or just members of a ground handling company wearing the MP uniform when handling their flights?

They work(ed) directly for MP. Even the station manager has been laid off. To my knowledge, MP's cargo operations on the other side of the field have not been affected.

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 20):
I feel that DL could do very well in MIA with a few added point to point routes.

Agreed. Maybe we'll even see the return of some of the intra-Florida flying, even if it is with Saabs.


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2807 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 21):
They work(ed) directly for MP. Even the station manager has been laid off. To my knowledge, MP's cargo operations on the other side of the field have not been affected.

Thanks for the info

MP besides SJO also had a tag-on to AUA on the 767-300 twice a week. I remember it well, because I worked those flights in AUA. (AMS-MIA-AUA-MIA-AMS). They also had full traffic rights between AUA and MIA with very competitive fares comparing to AA and Air Aruba.

I flew them many times to count... even the MD11. Sad to see them leave.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2760 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 21):
To my knowledge, MP's cargo operations on the other side of the field have not been affected.

Not at all. MIA is MP Cargo's second busiest station and Martinair is one of the largest airline employers in South Florida.



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3354 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2695 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
MIA is MP Cargo's second busiest station and Martinair is one of the largest airline employers in South Florida.

One would think they would be able to keep at least some of their displaced staff on the payroll. When Air Jamaica pulled out, I believe their station manager was kept on and transferred to FLL.


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