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Martinair Last MIA Flight 04 SEP  
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3305 posts, RR: 9
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

After nearly 22 years, Martinair is ending passenger services to Miami. Flight MP 646 will be departing MIA for the last time at 7:55 PM on Friday, September 4th, 2009.

PH-MCL pushing back from F15 tonight:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2882/dsc09029b.jpg

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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4300 times:

Now that is a really sad one. I know airlines come and go, but there is something special about seeing Martinair at MIA. Truely will be missed. The one time I flew them, they were fantastic. Those flight attendant uniforms were a class of their own. It's the hats baby!

Anyhow, sorry to see this one go. Martinair and MIA is a classic much like LTU was. At least, that one still survives as Air Berlin.


User currently offlineOwleye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4286 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 1):
The one time I flew them, they were fantastic.

Imo they are the best Dutch airline...


User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

Too bad KLM and DL are not making any moves down to south Florida!  Sad

User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4113 times:



Quoting AA B777-200 (Reply 3):
Too bad KLM and DL are not making any moves down to south Florida!

It's all about yield...moreover, MIA can be reached easily via MCO, MEM and ATL from AMS.



don't throw away tomorrow !
User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

True! But since all the other BIG playes like BA, AF, IB, AZ etc have access to Miami, you would think (and hope)....

User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1343 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

Don't despair it's been mentioned on here multiple times already by MAH...and others that KLAF/DL will return to MIA from AMS. Not a matter of IF but WHEN...from what has been mentioned here it looks like DL 763 service is the likely candidate.

Let's wait and see...



Nothing better than making love at 35K Feet!
User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3948 times:

Is MP cargo service also ending? I like seeing their MD-11's  Smile

MIA won't stay without nonstop AMS service for long. Might be a few months or years but there will be a nonstop again with someone  Smile

AA...here is your chance...you practically own MIA.


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3896 times:



Quoting MH017 (Reply 4):
MIA can be reached easily via MCO, MEM and ATL from AMS.

Or via CDG or LHR, as AAB777-200 says.

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):

MIA won't stay without nonstop AMS service for long. Might be a few months or years but there will be a nonstop again with someone Smile

I remember flying Air Florida somewhere back in the eighties! DC-10 I believe.



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineCodyKDiamond From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

My congratulations to Martinair for 22 years of flying passengers safely to MIA. I had the pleasure of flying PH-MCJ on MIA-AMS on 01JUN. It was a great flight and long due to some mx issues which resulted in an elongated flight over the southern tip of Greenland. Seeing Greenland from a 767 at FL370 was an incredible experience and I shall never forget it, it was worth a flight time of 8hr53m.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24814 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3764 times:



Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 8):
Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):

MIA won't stay without nonstop AMS service for long. Might be a few months or years but there will be a nonstop again with someone Smile

I remember flying Air Florida somewhere back in the eighties! DC-10 I believe.

I believe Air Florida started MIA-LGW/AMS/BRU service in February 1981. A few other European destinations including Oslo and Stockholm were added a year or so later.


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3305 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3652 times:



Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):
Is MP cargo service also ending? I like seeing their MD-11's

Oh, no, fortunately, their freighter service will be staying. When Air Jamaica pulled out, they, too left their cargo operation here intact.

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 7):
AA...here is your chance...you practically own MIA.

I doubt it. AA pretty much ignored their chance to start MIA-MXP, so I doubt they'd go ahead and launch MIA-AMS.  Sad


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3607 times:

Delta/KLM will fill the gap within 12 months, hopefully April 2010 if trans-Atlantic travel starts bouncing back next summer. Don't think Martinair is purposely leaving with no replacement planned. MP's aircraft config is terrible for the Miami market which demands premium cabins.


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3305 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Photos and video of the last departure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir65Ld4tkxg

Blog post coming soon. We just lost a really good airline and some great people.


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1343 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Wow...what a great video...how touching! the passion of the MIA MP Staff was felt so much viewing that video.

C'mon KLAF/DL...



Nothing better than making love at 35K Feet!
User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

Cool man!  Wink
Especially since they're using "Amsterdam" by Coldplay!


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3305 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

Photos of the crew, staff, and aircraft now up on my blog.

User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4411 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3137 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 13):
Photos and video of the last departure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir65L...4tkxg

Great send off, thanks for posting the video.

Does anyone know if the MIA staff will be transferred elsewhere in the system?


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3104 times:



Quoting N62NA (Reply 17):
Does anyone know if the MIA staff will be transferred elsewhere in the system?

Are they even direct employees of MP, or just members of a ground handling company wearing the MP uniform when handling their flights?



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User currently offlinePeteinmiami From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3052 times:

Thanks for posting that video, very sad and very touching! Hopefully we will see KLM soon landing at MIA

User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7119 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Sad to see Martinair leave but if DL or KLM send planes down for a AMS-MIA flight within a year or two I do not mind the change. I would love to see DL fly a a 763 on MIA-AMS. I feel that DL could do very well in MIA with a few added point to point routes.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3305 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2793 times:



Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 18):
Are they even direct employees of MP, or just members of a ground handling company wearing the MP uniform when handling their flights?

They work(ed) directly for MP. Even the station manager has been laid off. To my knowledge, MP's cargo operations on the other side of the field have not been affected.

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 20):
I feel that DL could do very well in MIA with a few added point to point routes.

Agreed. Maybe we'll even see the return of some of the intra-Florida flying, even if it is with Saabs.


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2775 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 21):
They work(ed) directly for MP. Even the station manager has been laid off. To my knowledge, MP's cargo operations on the other side of the field have not been affected.

Thanks for the info

MP besides SJO also had a tag-on to AUA on the 767-300 twice a week. I remember it well, because I worked those flights in AUA. (AMS-MIA-AUA-MIA-AMS). They also had full traffic rights between AUA and MIA with very competitive fares comparing to AA and Air Aruba.

I flew them many times to count... even the MD11. Sad to see them leave.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32603 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2728 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 21):
To my knowledge, MP's cargo operations on the other side of the field have not been affected.

Not at all. MIA is MP Cargo's second busiest station and Martinair is one of the largest airline employers in South Florida.



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3305 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2663 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
MIA is MP Cargo's second busiest station and Martinair is one of the largest airline employers in South Florida.

One would think they would be able to keep at least some of their displaced staff on the payroll. When Air Jamaica pulled out, I believe their station manager was kept on and transferred to FLL.


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