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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9191 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5368 times:

Can anyone please give me the list of airlines which operate the B 747 classics still? What are the routes? Any long haul routes?

Any airlines flying B 747 classics for long haul?

Pakistan? Air India?

Very few I would say..............

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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5377 times:

Orient Thai Airlines (OX/OEA)

Flies right to HKG as well.

Routes

BKKHKG OX200
BKKICN OX300
HKTHKG OX218

Changes without notice, HKT-HKG may op with M82.

[Edited 2009-09-03 00:53:03]


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5358 times:



Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 1):
Orient Thai Airlines (OX/OEA)

Flies right to HKG as well.

Routes

BKKHKG OX200
BKKICN OX300
HKTHKG OX218

Changes without notice, HKT-HKG may op with M82.

Oh yes how dare I forget Orient Thai!!!!

Do they fly them long haul? What about Phuket Air?


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5352 times:

Phuket Air is gone for good AFAIK. But who knows with these airlines...

I still see HS-UTM/Q regularly to HKG on OX. They do charters... No idea of routes or aircraft, one of their newest HS-UTO is rotting away at Jakarta. (747-346)



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User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1586 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5291 times:

Hellenic Imperial Airways operate 747's between ATH & BHX, JED and CMN.



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User currently offlineJensOBreuer From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5277 times:

Don't forget Transaero - they have an 747 classic fleet with 5 -200 and 4 -300 aircrafts!


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User currently offlineDC10BHX From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5252 times:



Quoting BananaBoY (Reply 4):
Hellenic Imperial Airways operate 747's between ATH & BHX, JED and CMN.

Service to BHX currently suspended. The flight operated twice I believe and the slots have been surrendered back to the Airport.



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User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5209 times:

How about Iran Air. They have SPs and 200s I think.
Where do they operate them to?


User currently offlinePSPfan From Netherlands, joined Mar 2008, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5165 times:
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Surinam still has their single 743 on the AMS-PBM route.

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[Edited 2009-09-03 03:28:53]


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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2022 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5090 times:

Saudia have a large fleet of 300s and a few 100s (to be withdrawn soon I think), one of the most prestigious Classic operators, albeit one of the most difficult to buy tickets for!


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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

And Aerosur flies their 747-300 between Madrid and Bolivia
TAAG Angola and Mahan operate 2 747-300s each on pax flights
PIA is supposed to have about 2 or 3 747-200s and -300s left, but probably not used much
Then there are some very obscure hadj operators like Kabo.
But all in all it's hard to get on a non -400. I tried to get the Athens-Birmingham flight last week but they cancelled it. I was rebooked on Aegean and Brussels Airlines flights so they were decent in that.



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User currently offlineJensOBreuer From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

NWA currently also operates two 742 on charter services, but they'll be phased out shortly ...

User currently offlineAirbuske From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4926 times:



Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 9):
100s (to be withdrawn soon I think)

Oh man! Which routes do they fly them on?


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4913 times:

SV -100s fly on Saudi-Middle East/India at least. One of their 300s was at CGK when I left doing CGK-SIN-RUH-JED (HZ-AIM).


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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4815 times:

Northwest, Southern, Kalitta, Evergreen, and Atlas all come to mind.


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User currently offlineFerengi80 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4762 times:
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Air China Cargo, Dragonair Cargo and Cathay Pacific Cargo all still use 747-200 freigher conversions. Beautiful aircraft, I have a bit of a soft-spot for the classics!


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User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1041 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

About 2 years ago I saw this JL -200 at Narita - not sure if it is still in operation?

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/104488.html

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User currently offlineMikelive From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

I flew JAL from Tokyo to Manila last year in a 742....

I can still remember the whine of those incredible engines when they spooled up to full power.


... and that was my very first time in a 747. My return trip was in a 744.


Ahhh memories.  cloudnine 


User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2706 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4340 times:



Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 9):

Saudi also has 747SPs. I don't know if they're only used for charter or VIP but its a classic 747.



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3419 times:



Quoting ZKEOJ (Reply 16):
About 2 years ago I saw this JL -200 at Narita - not sure if it is still in operation?

No JAL withdrew their last 200s and 300s this summer.



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1188 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Iran Air still flies their few 741's and even 747SP's into LHR I believe, also PEK and maybe NRT (?) for the SP; they still may run them to some Middle East destinations such as DAM. For a brief period 2 or 3 years ago they even flew THR-DAM-CCS with an SP.
Syrian had 747SP's until around 2 or 3 years ago and flew them to LHR.
Its harder to distinguish Iran Air's classics as 741's as they don't have only the 3 windows on the upper deck (the windows aren't plugged), they appear to be 742's. Then there's Saudi's 741's, which have RB211's instead of the standard JT9D's and have a stretched upper deck like on the -300 if I'm not mistaken, Orient Thai's 741's have the SUD mod as well.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5919 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

PIA fly five 747-300s to Jeddah and Riyadh plus between Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad at home depending on loads. Their two 742 Combis are stored, they were used on sometimes Islmabad-Bangkok-Hong Kong route inplace of A310 to carry 743 RR engiens for servicing in HKG.

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7522 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Doesn't Yemen still have an -SP?

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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2961 times:



Quoting Ferengi80 (Reply 15):
Dragonair Cargo and Cathay Pacific Cargo all still use 747-200 freigher conversions

Not anymore, all classics have left the fleet.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 18):
Saudi also has 747SPs. I don't know if they're only used for charter or VIP but its a classic 747.

VIP, both aircrafts are used for Saudi Arabian Royal Flight.

Quoting United_fan (Reply 22):
Doesn't Yemen still have an -SP?

Correct, operating flights for the government.

Not mentioned yet are Kabo Air and MaxAir from Nigeria.



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7693 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2888 times:



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 10):
Then there are some very obscure hadj operators like Kabo.

I believe that Kabo Air (N2) still operate a fleet of ten 747 Classics primarily if not solely on Hadj flights between Nigeria and Saudi. These include three 741s, all former BA aircraft. Here is 5N-OOO (formerly G-AWNP of BA):

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It is around 10 years since BA retired these three aircraft. And even then they were pretty long in the tooth. For example G-AWNF (now 5N-JJJ) had flown 109,947 hours and completed 22,480 cycles when BA parked it at ROW before Kabo bought it. But I guess if N2 only use them for Hadj flights then they do not clock up an excessive number of hours per year.

The full N2 current fleet is, I believe:

5N-DKB, c/n 23548, 747 251, ex N837US (ex NW)
5N-EEE, c/n 19732, 747 243, ex G-VGIN (ex AZ and VS)
5N-JJJ, c/n 19766, 747 136, ex G-AWNF (ex BA)
5N-JRM, c/n 23549, 747 251, ex N636US (ex NW)
5N-MAD, c/n 23547, 747 251, ex N636US (ex NW)
5N-NNN, c/n 21189, 747 287, ex G-VIRG (ex AR and VS)
5N-OOO, c/n 20952, 747 136, ex G-AWNP (ex BA)
5N-PDP, c/n 20842, 747 238, ex G-VJFK (ex QF and VS)
5N-PPP, c/n 20921, 747 238, ex G-VLAX (ex QF and VS)
5N-RRR, c/n 19765, 747 136, ex G-AWNE (ex BA)

5N-EEE (line no. 134) could be the oldest 747 in passenger service. It first flew in April 1971, getting on for 40 years ago. In addition to Alitalia (I-DEMU) and Virgin Atlantic it saw service with Overseas National Airways and National Airlines and then Malaysian Airlines System as N358AS and with CAA as B-2400. It had clocked up 96,210 hours by 31 Dec 1998 when it was still operating with VS so may not be as well used as 'JJJ.


User currently offline413x3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2786 times:



Quoting Ferengi80 (Reply 15):
Air China Cargo, Dragonair Cargo and Cathay Pacific Cargo all still use 747-200 freigher conversions. Beautiful aircraft, I have a bit of a soft-spot for the classics!

Sorry their time has come and gone. They are not operating any longer for those airlines


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