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EZY Cuts LTN By 20%  
User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Hi

According to the BBC, EZY are cutting LTN by 20% and has plans for further reductions including the closure of the EMA base.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8235556.stm


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User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

Press release on easyjet.com

http://corporate.easyjet.com/en/medi...-news/news-year-2009/03-09-09.aspx



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User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

Indeed. Now where will the EMA based aircraft go? Could it be an expansion at MAN seeing as they don't like small bases, and MAN has the same number of based a/c as EMA? Or will they be redeployed overseas I wonder?


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User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

Well, from the press release it does say about APD in the UK hurting them too. Whilst i'd love further expansion from LPL or MAN but my thinking is that they'll go abroad.


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User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4663 times:



Quoting Flybehubby (Thread starter):
the closure of the EMA base.

Sooner or later one of the three had to go - just a pity it's U2 really. But they are a business and, if it isn't profitable, they are well within their rights to move the aircraft to a continental base.

I expect FR will step in quickly with an extra aircraft and an increase in frequency on the summer sun routes like FAO, AGP, PMI and ALC.



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User currently onlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1331 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4575 times:



Quoting LHRjc (Reply 2):
Or will they be redeployed overseas I wonder?

According to the press release they probably will. I expect they go to MXP and FCO which are fast expanding bases at the moment.



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User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4544 times:



Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 6):
FCO which are fast expanding bases at the moment.

Since when has FCO been a base?



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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3054 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

Not a good week for LTN!

This week alone:

- SkyEurope have ceased trading and means the airport will see a reduction of 25 flights a week.

- Ground handlers - Servisair have decided to close operations at LTN.

- Now todays news on easyJet, seeing 20% cut in flights from next week.

Also not a good day jobwise for Luton with the airport being the towns largest employer!

On BBC 3CR (local radio) the chairman of easyJet was talking and said how Abertis were not willing to negotiate on airport charges and blamed them for this move. He explained how other bases (probably LGW) were now also more profitable than LTN and these aircraft would be deployed to these bases.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3929 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 6):
According to the press release they probably will. I expect they go to MXP and FCO which are fast expanding bases at the moment.

The "majority" of the capacity will be redeployed. The thing is that LTN is a 737 base, BFS and NCL are the only 737 bases left (AFAIK), and they are to "remain stable", albeit with reduced crewing levels. Looks like there were only 17 737s left as of the end of August. I assume this plan will have the effect of retiring all 73Gs before the summer schedule. Does anyone know the delivery schedules from Airbus?

Also, this is a crewing reduction of 20%, now if the base does go all Airbus there will be a reduction in based units of more than 20%, with the 319s needing 4 crew.

Brian.

[Edited 2009-09-03 04:02:35]


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User currently offlineHansHubers From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4492 times:



Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 6):
According to the press release they probably will. I expect they go to MXP and FCO which are fast expanding bases at the moment.

Good chance! The same for MAD



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User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4470 times:

Sad to hear the news and in particular the EMA move.


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User currently offlineAcelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 857 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4434 times:

Wonder if Jet2 opening up at EMA has forced the move, hopefully some of the staff
may be able to find work with them....

Is the ongoing row about the drop off charge at LTN also a factor in EZY's
move? what does 20% reduction look like in numbers?
Routes reduced/closed, number of planes still based etc..



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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3054 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4315 times:



Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 12):
Is the ongoing row about the drop off charge at LTN also a factor in EZY's
move? what does 20% reduction look like in numbers?
Routes reduced/closed, number of planes still based etc..

easyJet has about 16 aircraft based at LTN and is their largest base after LGW as far as I am aware...

From another forum it looks like 3-4 aircraft are being removed from the airport.

I could imagine it is possible to offer a similar route network from LTN but with reduced frequencies as many of the routes from the airport are flown 3+ times a day.

It will also be interesting to see what happens to the new routes the airline is starting in November to TLV, PFO and SSH. These routes are still fully bookable throughout the winter timetable.

Looking back on it now, it seems like this sort of news was inevitable. easyJet have released the timetable for their route network from all other airport London airports bookable until June for the last month of so. LTN has only been bookable until April.


User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4265 times:

Well BMi Baby have been quick to pounce, and why not?


Ive just had this email from them.........


We're staying put, baby!
easyJet withdraw flights from East Midlands Airport but we're here to stay.

Today, easyJet has announced that it will soon be withdrawing all flights from East Midlands Airport, but we want to reassure our customers that we are here to stay!

In fact here at bmibaby HQ we are actually adding extra flights within the next 48 hours across our destinations from East Midlands Airport to help passengers in the region who might be affected by easyJet's departure.

So don't worry about your next holiday, in fact this week's offer where you pay no credit or debit card charges on any flight means now is a great time to book!



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User currently offlineAidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Hopefully baby will be able to take over a couple of easyjets routes once they have gone. Obviously bringing back Prague year round and possibly daily would be a start, as well as an increase on the Faro and perhaps even start Venice...

----

On the other hand Easyjet have contacted their customers flying with them from EMA with the following statement: ...

As you may read in the press in the coming days, easyJet is currently evaluating the future of its operation at East Midlands airport. As a valued customer, we wanted to let you know directly that no decision will be made before December 2009 and there are no plans for aircraft to be moved during 2009.

If you are booked to fly with easyJet on flights departing from or arriving at East Midlands during 2009, including the Christmas and New Year period, your flights are unaffected and you can fly as per your current travel plans. There is no need to call our call centre as your flight will not be affected.

If you are booked to fly with easyJet departing from or arriving at East Midlands after this period, whilst there is a possibility that your flight may be affected, no final decision has been made. We appreciate this may cause you some concern, but we can assure you that we will advise you as soon as we have more information. This will be in early December 2009, once the consultation with our staff is complete. Please be aware that our call centre will be unable to provide any more information than that enclosed in this e-mail...

I think that they will most likely continue flying until March before the summer schedule starts, flights up until then are still bookable on the website.
----

Aidoair


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 12):
Wonder if Jet2 opening up at EMA has forced the move,

Unlikely. Jet 2 will operate none of Easyjet's current routes, and with the low frequencies on the routes Jet 2 will serve, I doubt they would be a huge competition for Easyjet if they had wanted to expand into longer range routes from EMA

[Edited 2009-09-03 06:23:32]


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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3187 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4047 times:



Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 7):
Since when has FCO been a base?

Since somewhere in spring 2009. Although launching the FCO base has been quite low-profile. There has not been a press release about launching a base or whatsoever.

AFAIK, it all started with one, later two aircraft that remained overnight in FCO, but with crews from other bases (MXP). It seems like it has gradually evolved towards a "real" base.

The first time FCO was mentioned in such a way in presentations was at 29 July 2009, in this presentation (sheet 6) http://corporate.easyjet.com/~/media...t-center/Analyst_presentation.ashx

Implicitly, it was already refered to as such in June 2009, in this presentation http://corporate.easyjet.com/~/media...achelK-credit-suisse-22-06-09.ashx , sheet 7. They refer to LGW, PAR, MIL, MAD and "Remaining 15 bases" - without including FCO, I counted 18 bases, so FCO was counted here already.

Other than FR, easyJet does not really communicatie bases & destinations as such towards it's customers. Also, U2 is putting focus more and more on operating W-routes from airports where neither of them is a base. Examples include all DTM routes, VCE-NAP, BRU-NCE, BIO-IBZ, etc. In an other presentation they say that this is how they see the future of the airline.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 13):
easyJet has about 16 aircraft based at LTN and is their largest base after LGW as far as I am aware...

MXP has 17 aircraft, so slightly bigger.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 9):

Also, this is a crewing reduction of 20%, now if the base does go all Airbus there will be a reduction in based units of more than 20%, with the 319s needing 4 crew.

I wonder if they will remove 6 seats from the 319s, to be able to fly them with 3 F/A's. That sounds like the most obvious way to reduce crew levels.


User currently offlineAidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4024 times:

With regards to my earlier post, i have it from good source that the EMA - EZY base will be closed by very early January 2010. However rumours still within the Airport that the Geneva service to continue with GVA based aircraft. I do however think this unlikely as it will be the only operation their and will probably be unviable...?

However a sad day to all the crew and staff at EMA as well as to those going to be affected at LTN. Good luck all!

Aidoair


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3187 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4009 times:



Quoting Aidoair (Reply 18):
I do however think this unlikely as it will be the only operation their and will probably be unviable...?

I don't think it's unlikely: for a couple of years now, U2 operates services from GVA to BOH and BHX, (and even BHX-GNB, where neither of the airports is a base).


User currently offlineAidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3984 times:

Quoting Joost (Reply 19):
I don't think it's unlikely: for a couple of years now, U2 operates services from GVA to BOH and BHX, (and even BHX-GNB, where neither of the airports is a base).

I suppose so, even thoguh these routes are seasonal i.e winter only for the the ski route demand, EMA's service has consistantly had high loads all year round, it's also in the past said to have been the the most popular EZY route from the airport. So yes thinking more about it, i suppose with this proven demand we shall wait and see if it is taken up by the swiss division. If i remember correctly though it was once operated by DS aicraft anyway until not so long ago?
---
Aidoair

[Edited 2009-09-03 06:57:50]

User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1804 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3929 times:



Quoting Joost (Reply 17):
I wonder if they will remove 6 seats from the 319s, to be able to fly them with 3 F/A's. That sounds like the most obvious way to reduce crew levels.

This has been looked at before and it was determined that keeping the extra seats would be more efficient.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

If BMIBaby expand at EMA, does this mean reductions elsewhere?

User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7443 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3588 times:
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Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 22):
If BMIBaby expand at EMA, does this mean reductions elsewhere?

Not necessarily as MAN-LDE has been announced by them.


User currently offlineOffloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 905 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

And from the world's classiest airline's website I see:

"Ryanair will ensure that the very few Easyjet passengers who were misguided enough to book Easyjet flights to/from East Midlands Airport can travel with Ryanair to Alicante, Barcelona (Girona), Faro and Malaga. Easyjet passengers can book these rescue fares for only £35 including taxes and charges via www.ryanair.com/member/Easyjetrescuefare.html until 15th September for travel from 10th January 2010.”

I don't remember seeing a £35 "rescue fare" by EZY for FR pax "misguided enough" to have booked FR flights out of LPL (eg LPL FAO) when FR dumped those routes.....



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User currently offlineF4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Or fr routes out of man. What else would u expect from
the ryanair: goebbles propaganda machine.
Ps reduction of flights ltn does not equate nec
to less a/c or crew based there. W patterns can mean
crew unaffected at ltn with less flights.
Also Ltn is mixed Boeing and airbus. With fixed Boeing leases.


25 Spetouss : Any official news for the flights to be cut ? What about new routes starting this winter ?
26 Sam1987 : No news about possible flight cuts from LTN yet. Only the EMA routes from January 2010. I would guess that the LTN to SSK, PFO and TLV will stay foll
27 Humberside : I would expect LTN-TLV to stay since the Jewish population in LON is closest to Luton
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