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Taag Angola Orders 31 Boeings?  
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6177 times:

Wikipedia (probably wrong) states that TAAG has ordered 31 Boeing aircrafts. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?

It says they have these aircraft on order:
- Seven 777-300ER's
- Six 777-200LR's
- Eleven 737-800's
- Seven 737-700's

If this is true, all I can say is wow. Very impressive! I don't even think there is enough ramp space in LAD to keep all of these aircrafts.

Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAAG_Angola_Airlines#cite_note-6

[Edited 2009-09-03 19:57:12]

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User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6093 times:

I have no idea if its true or not but I wouldn't look to wiki for ANYTHING! Its just a joke of a site and nothing on there can be trusted.

Im sure someone here will have a clear answer very soon.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6020 times:
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Wikipedia is no worse than any other web reference out there.

That claim has as it's reference this FlightGlobal Article from 11/2006 which notes that they had at that time four 73G and 3 77E orders, which Boeing's website confirms, and that TAAG was speaking with Boeing about ordering the 77W, though Boeing's site shows no orders and there is no mention of a 77L order.


User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5697 times:



Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 1):
I have no idea if its true or not but I wouldn't look to wiki for ANYTHING! Its just a joke of a site and nothing on there can be trusted.

To jump to the defence of Wikipedia - whilst it's true that the less often updated pages can end up with someone's opinion rather than fact on them, for information that a number of people have an interest in, it is often the best source of fact on the web.


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5288 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Thread starter):
If this is true, all I can say is wow. Very impressive! I don't even think there is enough ramp space in LAD to keep all of these aircrafts.

I would imagine that the first aircraft - probably the 737-700 would be to replace the 737-200 birds and put some additional capacity and reliability into the domestic network.

Angola has the potential to be an economic powerhouse like a gulf nation and TAAG to rival some of the darling airlines of A.netters from the gulf. It has the oil reserves, it only needs political stability and visionary leadership to grow. Of course geography would never permit it to grow into a connection hub like Dubai, but it could still be impressive.

LAD has ramp space, but of course would eventually need a new world class terminal. They would also probably want to move the military which takes up half the airport either over to the east side, or maybe south between the runways. Though of course, they could also move the civilian operations to the east closer to the longer runway.

It would displace a lot of homes, but I doubt they have the NIMBY level we see places like London.

Another possibility is to put the military next to the ATC / airport administration complex. Or build a completely new airport out to the east a bit.

Since according to the Wiki article they have seven years before the all the aircraft will arrive, they have time if they get started soon.


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8410 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5256 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 4):
Angola has the potential to be an economic powerhouse like a gulf nation and TAAG to rival some of the darling airlines of A.netters from the gulf. It has the oil reserves, it only needs political stability and visionary leadership to grow. Of course geography would never permit it to grow into a connection hub like Dubai, but it could still be impressive.

You could say the same exact thing for just about every African country. It's really sad to see so much richness go to waste.


User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3765 times:



Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 1):
I have no idea if its true or not but I wouldn't look to wiki for ANYTHING! Its just a joke of a site and nothing on there can be trusted.

You sound like a librarian who is worried that the children will no longer come look at books.  Smile


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25457 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3562 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 3):
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 1):
I have no idea if its true or not but I wouldn't look to wiki for ANYTHING! Its just a joke of a site and nothing on there can be trusted.

To jump to the defence of Wikipedia - whilst it's true that the less often updated pages can end up with someone's opinion rather than fact on them, for information that a number of people have an interest in, it is often the best source of fact on the web.

I only use Wikipedia as a supplementary resource to back up information found elsewhere. There's hardly a day that goes by that I don't find numerous errors in Wiikipedia. I prefer to trust Boeing's orders/deliveries data for information on who has ordered their aircraft than Wikipedia.


User currently offlinePutnik From Brazil, joined Aug 2007, 229 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2988 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 4):
LAD has ramp space, but of course would eventually need a new world class terminal. They would also probably want to move the military which takes up half the airport either over to the east side, or maybe south between the runways. Though of course, they could also move the civilian operations to the east closer to the longer runway.

They seem to be building a completely new Luanda International Airport in cooperation with the Chinese? Two billion USD worth all along with new highway and railroad access. I was reading about this somewhere and it seemed credible, though unusually secretive. Should be opened in 2010.



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2757 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
I only use Wikipedia as a supplementary resource to back up information found elsewhere.

I'll use Wikipedia from time to time, but always check out the references. Alot of the time, you'll find that the information isn't backed up properly. But when the info is properly referenced, it can be a good summary, and work as a good portal to more information. But I tend not to bother if there are "reference required" notices throughout a particular article.

Cheers
Mats



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

It has now been removed from Wikipedia so apparently it is indeed false. Sorry for the confusion, guys.

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8410 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2259 times:



Quoting Putnik (Reply 8):
They seem to be building a completely new Luanda International Airport in cooperation with the Chinese? Two billion USD worth all along with new highway and railroad access. I was reading about this somewhere and it seemed credible, though unusually secretive. Should be opened in 2010.

That's the first I'm hearing about. I'm not saying it's not possible but a new airport to open in 2010 would be in a fairly advanced stage at this point and it would be hard to keep it a secret.


User currently offlinePutnik From Brazil, joined Aug 2007, 229 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 11):
and it would be hard to keep it a secret.

Those were my thoughts exactly but hey, as someone said, "this is Angola!" I even tried Google Earth   

Some details can be found on the forum linked below along with additional links to websites in Chinese and Portuguese.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=648243

[Edited 2009-09-05 05:38:00]


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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8410 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1889 times:



Quoting Putnik (Reply 12):
Some details can be found on the forum linked below along with additional links to websites in Chinese and Portuguese.

I have my doubts. Sounds like it was intended to open for CAN2010 but it's barely gotten off the ground. My guess is that like so many things in Angola, some people got very rich off of this and we'll never see an airport, hence the complete lack of news or pictures of the work site.


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