I'm surprised to see this route go but I guess that they have tough competition from flybe. I always preferred the regional product and service! Seems odd that MAN-EDI stays but GLA gets dropped. I wonder if we might see an increase else where on the regional side as this will free up at least 1 ERJ.
I guess that this will also be another ERJ free from the system. Perhaps an ATR from the Luthansa Cityline fleet might have been better suited in terms of costs?
Poh2 From Venezuela, joined Oct 2003, 219 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10667 times:
Perhaps they can transfer the LHR slots to other airlines in the LH Group...personally, I'd like to see LX re-start GVA-LHR...I think this route could be profitable for Swiss (and therefore for the whole group, too).
Cambrian From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 617 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10346 times:
Quoting Poh2 (Reply 2): Perhaps they can transfer the LHR slots to other airlines in the LH Group...personally, I'd like to see LX re-start GVA-LHR...I think this route could be profitable for Swiss (and therefore for the whole group, too).
Yes please! This is a major hole in the LX network, and BA must be laughing all the way to the (Swiss) bank on the LHR-GVA run.
This would also allow LX to exploit limited connection options via Geneva, such as DME, ATH, JFK etc. I often transit via Geneva from London City to Athens- it is a very good experience.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7144 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10073 times:
Quoting BMED (Reply 1): Seems odd that MAN-EDI stays but GLA gets dropped.I wonder if we might see an increase else where on the regional side as this will free up at least 1 ERJ.
Given that GLA-MAN is only operated on a single daily basis and has been since June, I don't think it'll free up anything unfortunately.
LHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9977 times:
Quoting Cambrian (Reply 4): Yes please! This is a major hole in the LX network, and BA must be laughing all the way to the (Swiss) bank on the LHR-GVA run.
That really confused me a few months ago when i had a miss connect on the GVA. Went to rebook and said LX would do it, to find out they don't. Looked a few days either side as well just to make sure.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7144 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9940 times:
Quoting Cambrian (Reply 4): Yes please! This is a major hole in the LX network, and BA must be laughing all the way to the (Swiss) bank on the LHR-GVA run.
Acelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 782 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9836 times:
Would have thought it was a bit short notice for some passingers
to re-book etc. Don't think I would be very happy if I had a flight
booked the end of Sept/Oct and was affected...
What will happen with the LHR slots?
from the Island with sun and great photo's.. Why not visit Lanzarote
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7343 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 9014 times:
Lufthansa is killing BMI's LHR system one route at a time. I hope they don't liquidate the airline and sell all the slots to oil rich airlines. Emirates, Etihad & Qatar all run very respectable operations but after 4, 5 or 6 daily flights to LHR how many more can they add ?
LHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8861 times:
What's BD's longest route now, TLV? I remember way back when, when then had a few US flights, and that oh so well loved 757 from MAN to IAD.
Am very interested to see what LH are going to do with them.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 15 Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8570 times:
Quoting ZKOJH (Thread starter): in the 1st round of moves by LH - the following
Quoting ZKOJH (Thread starter): London Heathrow - Palma Mallorca eff 04NOV09
London Heathrow - Venice eff 16NOV09
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 10): Lufthansa is killing BMI's LHR system one route at a time.
for goodness sake - LH has barely taken over the airline and rumours have been on Flyertalk for months regarding the two ( yes , that's right , count them , 2 ) routes canned ex LHR - I dont believe that these particular route cuts have come about specifically because of LH , BD have been canning routes out of LHR for years - anyone remember WAW PRG BUD ? or MAD and BCN ? or FCO ? or CDG ? all cut over the years , now BD cut yet more routes ex LHR and suddenly it is the beginning of the end and it is all due to LH ? Give me a break .
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
Only operate from MXP - and are focusing there. Unlike BD - they have a focus.
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 10): Lufthansa is killing BMI's LHR system one route at a time
No - its BDs inability to decide what sort of an airline it wants to be thats killing the airline - Dont blame LH, who have no choice but to fix the problems.
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3747 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8158 times:
Quoting LHR380 (Reply 11): What's BD's longest route now, TLV? I remember way back when, when then had a few US flights, and that oh so well loved 757 from MAN to IAD.
Am very interested to see what LH are going to do with them.
I guess that this will also be another ERJ free from the system. Perhaps an ATR from the Luthansa Cityline fleet might have been better suited in terms of costs?
It was a filler for an EMA based aircraft doing three daily flights to - IIRC - BRU. CGN was added when U2 pulled off that route as the aircraft sat idle on the ramp around noon-time.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7144 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8068 times:
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 16): They still fly MAN-LAS & MAN-ORD.
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3747 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8067 times:
Eurohub From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 230 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7847 times:
Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 17): It was a filler for an EMA based aircraft doing three daily flights to - IIRC - BRU. CGN was added when U2 pulled off that route as the aircraft sat idle on the ramp around noon-time.
Wasn't there some sort of commercial contract from a local firm needing to send staff between EMA-CGN that encouranged BD to step in after U2 couldn't get enough additional work to make flying an A319 profitable? If I'm correct then I can well imagine someone else stepping in at either EMA or BHX before too long.
Forget A vs B - Give me E or BAe any day of the week!
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4901 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6773 times:
KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6732 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 22): Wonder if BA will step in to provide a Heathrow service for Palma?
Are you crazy? That's a leisure, low yield charter destination. Especially in this economic climate when all tourists stick to cars and campsites again.
Palma is a perfect example of why BMI didn't work. Combining leisure and mainline operations doesn't work, unless you have a subsidery like KLM/Transavia
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4901 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6635 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 23): Are you crazy? That's a leisure, low yield charter destination. Especially in this economic climate when all tourists stick to cars and campsites again.
Are BA crazy flying LHR-Malaga then?
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25 KL911: Yes,leave that to the charter airlines. Or use your own holiday airline if you have one. Business class is not needed, and tickets on FR, U2, HV etc
26 Sam1987: Maybe they could, as a W pattern - MXP-LHR-VCE-LHR-MXP. Unlikely but possible. Exactly. So the ERJ will be sat idle again. They do the same at LBA -
27 PHX Flyer: Unfortunately, Cologne is a city in decline. The recent success of a couple of low-cost carriers has only masked this trend. And only God and some in
28 KL911: But very close to FRA, with the ICE highspeed train, even with LH flightnumbers as part of your eticket. Or to DUS at the other end, only half an hour
29 David_itl: I doubt it's a slotkeeping route as why would they bother to try to garner as many slots as possible for them enhance their position of LHR's number
30 Oneworld77: No. Huge numbers of retired Brits Abroad who travel regularly to their second homes in the regions and the *ahem* "High End" resorts in Marbella. The
31 Cyba: In the depth's of LX's economic despair in its early years it was trying to (a) join an alliance and (b) get cash. Oneworld was its preferred allianc
32 LHR380: Thanks for that, I never knew that LX were nearly Oneworld. Would of been a good base GVA.
33 Poh2: yes, exactly. And ever since then, Swiss lost those slots. I don't know exactly what happened afterwards; why couldn't LX re-pay BA the loan and get
34 TFFIP: These are the actions of a bright new MD who is doing his best to demonstrate to LH that the outfit is worth keeping. BA have met with LH about buyin
35 Nonrev: It does seem that everyone is always so quick to jump on the BD-bashing band-wagon. Look at what BD has actually done. It has built itself up from a
36 Mutu: No, there is a large british ex pat community in Malaga with a significant number of "high wealth" individuals who use the LHR route for onward conne
37 LHR380: We all know it is, however the site says operated by BD, it does not say its a codeshare. I even double checked the map and the lines, but it said op
39 Burkhard: Good luck with going to Palma by car How many LCC flights are there between London and Palma a day, I assume 40 in summer and 5 in winter. Who wants
40 Bongodog1964: Do they have the necessary rights to fly LHR - TATL ?
41 TFFIP: I don't know. Could Etihad (for example) start a LHR base as Etihad (UK) and operate as a UK carrier? Other airlines have that sort of division. Laws
43 757ops: With the excellent BD A330 Longhaul product I would love to see them using the aircraft on longer sectors out of LHR. Maybe JNB, CPT, BKK, DXB, PEK ??
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