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User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2289 posts, RR: 26
Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11031 times:

Acft # 440 went into service yesterday. Acft # 441 is in the barn for induction and LiveTV install. The first CO 737-800, Aft # 513, to have LiveTV installed has it completed and is awaiting the STC. Acft # 513 is sitiing out on the CO North Hangar ramp at MCO awaiting the FAA's blessing.


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10980 times:

Do all the 900's and 900ER's have the TV now onboard?


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User currently offlineGxman From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10954 times:

According to the CO website, as of 8/24/09 24 of the 27 900ERs had it installed. No 900's or 800s have LiveTV installed.

900ER - 100% by Sept 2009
900 - 100% by Dec 2009
800 - 100% by Oct 2010
700 - 100% by July 2010
753 - 100% by Jan 2011

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...rtainment/directv/fleetstatus.aspx



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User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10933 times:



Quoting Gxman (Reply 2):
No 900's or 800s have LiveTV installed.

Don't believe everything on the internet. Acft # 513 has LiveTV installed, just not in service yet awaiting it's STC. Drove Acft # 429 over to the Jetblue hangar yesterday to get it's LiveTV installed. Soon as CO 757-200 Pylon Mini-mods are complete, both Mod Lines in MCO should switch over to LiveTV installs. With LiveTV, three lines in MCO cranking out LiveTV planes soon.



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User currently offlineJetbluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2996 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10897 times:

I hear that the agreement between LiveTV and CO is that LiveTV installs and maintains the TV's for free, but then takes the revenue from CO's charges to use the TV. Is this true?

Also, nice to hear that there are three different lines cranking.

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User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10794 times:

Heard CO gets one dollar, LiveTV gets the rest. CO is doing many of the installs, LiveTV is going to maintain the system.


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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10701 times:

What is the actual in-hangar/on the ground time for an aicraft to be modded with LiveTV? In other words, how long does each aircraft get pulled out of service?

The wait for the FAA/STC thing is only for the first frame of each type, right? Or does the FAA want to look at every aircraft that gets touched?

While I'm asking a string of questions... Is the addition of in seat power part of the mod on the -800s? Originally I thought that it and LiveTV went hand-in-hand on the 900ERs but then I realized that I rode on a couple of the 900/ERs prior to LiveTV and I'm pretty sure that I remember inseat power then as well.

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User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 846 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10611 times:

Anyone know if ship 439 is in service yet? She was being fitted with the system when I got a tour last month.


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When I was there, they were fitting the systems in the north Continental hangar, but I wasn't aware that they were going to do any of that in the B6 building.

[Edited 2009-09-06 16:42:18]

User currently offlineFLY2TUS From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10585 times:



Quoting Plainplane (Reply 7):
Anyone know if ship 439 is in service yet? She was being fitted with the system when I got a tour last month.

Yes, she's in service. It flew CLE-EWR-YQB-EWR-TPA today.



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User currently offlineIAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3453 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10547 times:
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Quoting Plainplane (Reply 7):
Anyone know if ship 439 is in service yet?

That would be Yes.. 440 just entered service as well. 441 is just beginning the induction process. 442 will arrive from Boeing within the next ten days. The last delivery from Boeing will be Ship 434 ... not sure just when that will happen... Boeing has been using it since May as the testbed for something. That will be it for new aircraft this year.

Only 433 remains as the last 900ER to have DTV installed.



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User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10503 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 6):
What is the actual in-hangar/on the ground time for an aicraft to be modded with LiveTV? In other words, how long does each aircraft get pulled out of service?

The wait for the FAA/STC thing is only for the first frame of each type, right? Or does the FAA want to look at every aircraft that gets touched?

While I'm asking a string of questions... Is the addition of in seat power part of the mod on the -800s? Originally I thought that it and LiveTV went hand-in-hand on the 900ERs but then I realized that I rode on a couple of the 900/ERs prior to LiveTV and I'm pretty sure that I remember inseat power then as well.

Well, with no unforseen problems, Acft # 439 went back into service on the 29th or 30th of August. Acft # 440 came in as # 439 left, and left yesterday after about 7 or 8 days. The aircraft are starting to run into one long memory.

STC would be for first frame of each type and configuration.

In seat power is coming installed from the Boeing factory.


Quoting Plainplane (Reply 7):
Anyone know if ship 439 is in service yet? She was being fitted with the system when I got a tour last month.

When I was there, they were fitting the systems in the north Continental hangar, but I wasn't aware that they were going to do any of that in the B6 building.

LiveTV has a line running. Acft # 429 is there now in the JetBlue Hangar.



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User currently offlineCotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10496 times:



Quoting FLY2TUS (Reply 8):

Ship 439 is flight 318 to here tonight, a brand new 900, nice! I'll try to get some pics of her.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10483 times:



Quoting CALTECH (Reply 10):
In seat power is coming installed from the Boeing factory.

Thanks for the timing answers -- based on this comment does that mean that the 738s already in the fleet will not be retroed (at least for the forseeable future) with power? I know there's (at least) one 738 out there that has the power through the exit rows... but what about the majority?



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User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 846 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10400 times:

She was a pretty nice looking bird, good to hear she is in the air again already.

I also got to see some of the LiveTV equipment while I was on the plane, a few modules that all fit in the overhead bin above row 19 on the right. I was told that besides the equipment that would go into the dome, those modules were all that would be needed to run the system, compared to (from what I was told) a big heavy rack on B6. Is that true that all the equipment to run the system is so compact and that B6 has a heavy rack? If so, it would definitely give CO a good weight advantage.


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6127 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10148 times:
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I was on a CO 737-900 last month, IAH-SFO, and the live TV was non functioning.


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User currently offlineSpeedracer1407 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10070 times:

FYI for anyone planning to watch Live TV in F class:

Make sure your headphones have a nice long cord, or bring an extender. The headphones jack faces forward at the front of the armrest, under that 4x4 inch drink holder tray thing. My Denons were way too short, and I forgot my extender. The earbuds they provide onboard sound horrible and shouldn't stay in my ears. Nice picture quality, though.

[Edited 2009-09-06 22:56:16]


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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9299 times:

Any picture's of inside yet?? Or will we have to wait??


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User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 846 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9126 times:



Quoting T8KE0FF (Reply 16):
Any picture's of inside yet?? Or will we have to wait??

From what I saw, first class was 2x2, and economy was 3x3. However the aircraft didn't have passenger seats during my tour.

I too am interested in seeing what the seats look like.


User currently offlineGxman From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9114 times:

Coach cabin from FlightGlobal article.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/runway-girl/Continental%20LTV.jpg



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User currently offlineAviators99 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8999 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 3):
Don't believe everything on the internet. Acft # 513 has LiveTV installed, just not in service yet awaiting it's STC. Drove Acft # 429 over to the Jetblue hangar yesterday to get it's LiveTV installed. Soon as CO 757-200 Pylon Mini-mods are complete, both Mod Lines in MCO should switch over to LiveTV installs. With LiveTV, three lines in MCO cranking out LiveTV planes soon.

Are you sure you mean 757-200? I don't see why they would put LiveTV in an aircraft that rarely flys within reception range. Or do you just mean that when that is done it will free up space to mod a different a/c?

[Edited 2009-09-07 20:14:34]

User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2436 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8975 times:



Quoting Aviators99 (Reply 19):
Are you sure you mean 757-200?

The 757-200s are undergoing a different mod:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 3):
Soon as CO 757-200 Pylon Mini-mods are complete

unrelated to LiveTV. All 752s have been fitted with Panasonic AVOD in each seat.


User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 846 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8828 times:

One thing in addition to the television system - I was shown a unique pair of antenna that would allow for texting in-flight. Is there any more information available about them?

User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8695 times:



Quoting CALTECH (Reply 5):
Heard CO gets one dollar, LiveTV gets the rest. CO is doing many of the installs

I heard the same thing.

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 5):
LiveTV is going to maintain the system.

I talked to Tech Support about this the other day. They stated that after the 737NG and the 753 fleets have been upgraded (200+ A/C) Live TV won't have the manpower to maintain so many aircraft. So you know what that means!

Quoting Plainplane (Reply 21):
One thing in addition to the television system - I was shown a unique pair of antenna that would allow for texting in-flight. Is there any more information available about them?

The system is being installed in conjunction with the Live TV MOD. But it isn't activated yet. I'm not sure when that system is going to be activated.



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User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8545 times:



Quoting MX757 (Reply 22):
So you know what that means!

Not the dreaded GTR !!!



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User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8490 times:



Quoting CALTECH (Thread starter):
The first CO 737-800, Aft # 513, to have LiveTV installed has it completed and is awaiting the STC. Acft # 513 is sitiing out on the CO North Hangar ramp at MCO awaiting the FAA's blessing.

I'm taking 513 on a taxi run at 5:30 this morning while Live TV engineers perform tests on the system. I'm not sure what they are going to do yet; but CALTECH or I will post after we get back.

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 23):
Not the dreaded GTR !!!

Yes, the dreaded GTR!!! vomit 



Is it broke...? Yeah I'll fix it.
25 CALTECH : Any minute now, so they say. Might get the STC today. Oh no.
26 COalways : Is the CO 737-800 out of the shop yet wit Nose To Tail LiveTv?
27 CALTECH : As of Sunday, no, Acft # 513 is still sitting on the ramp in MCO awaiting the STC. Acft # 441 will be done shortly with it's LiveTV and Induction.
28 MCOatc : I was wondering what you guys were up to down there. I was the guy you were talking to upstairs. Just out of personal interest, what is the pylon mod
29 N1120A : I wonder how much money B6 is making on LiveTV now. As I recall, the original acquisition by jetBlue was supposedly going to offset what LiveTV was c
30 MX757 : That was you? LOL!!! My buddy was on the radio, I was driving. Thanks for letting us take the tour. Live TV was checking antenna reception and downlo
31 MCOatc : Small world eh? Always happy to help out, and meet a fellow airliners.net guy while doing so.
32 IAHFLYR : Any updates on the 800's and being able to have a "clicker" to abuse on future flights? Have an few 800's in the next few weeks so was curious as to a
33 AAExecPlat : Does every passenger have to pay for LiveTV? Or only Y passengers? How about Elites?
34 STT757 : It's free in First.
35 Post contains links and images AznMadSci : Here's LiveTV in F on a recent IAH-EWR flight. On a slightly different note, when does CO expect to receive their first 737 with the brand new overhe
36 Plainplane : If I remember correctly, passengers in Y must pay $6 to use the system.
37 IAHFLYR : I didn't ask that, but first class the TV is free!
38 Lincoln : If you're in Y You Pay If you're in F, Forget paying. Cabin is the only distinction; it doesn't matter if you're an Elite in the Economy cabin or not
39 ADXMatt : Ship 513 is all done with the Live TV install.... Sitting as a stand by a/c in MCO today. I'm still waiting to see which flight it gets assigned to fi
40 ADXMatt : They're moving a/c513 to IAH tonight. Right now it is scheduled as a stand by for tomorrow. However I'm sure that will change. It would be a waste to
41 B6JFKH81 : " target=_blank>http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/ru...V.jpg Interesting. It looks like the coach cabin has the 5.3" VDU's while the F cabin has much
42 FUN2FLY : Is that the last 737-900ER? Are the 739 (nonER)'s next in line or a mix w/those and the 738's?
43 ADXMatt : Ship 513 is the FIRST 737-800 to get Live TV Ship 442 is in MCO now getting it installed and the 900ER's are finished. Ship 402 got to MCO this morni
44 Nuggetsyl : I have now flown on several fights with live tv and i have to say i am surprised on how few people buy it. The most i have ever seen bought was 30. Th
45 AznMadSci : What I don't like is when you can not tilt the monitor for better viewing when the person in front of you has reclined. Overall, I like the system, b
46 Luv2cattlecall : Jw, what do you mean by standby? Does CO have spares sitting around at certain airports?
47 IAHFLYR : At the HUB airports yes they have spares and probably at a few select maintenance facilities.
48 Drerx7 : Yep - the 767 often swaps for a 753 at IAH
49 Post contains links Coalways : Heres a nice video on CO LiveTv System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl-snQGumkk
50 IAHcsr : Ship 513 is ferry to IAH right now as CO 9971. As of now it has no scheduled flight activity for the next two days.
51 IAHFLYR : Swap it for 518 starting Friday afternoon!
52 CALTECH : 200 and 500 numbers are 737-800s at Continental. We do have over a hundred -800s. 400 numbers are 737-900 and -900ERs.
53 MX757 : 442 is finished. I'm getting ready to take her up to the gate for a 0650 departure. MCO-IAH Not quite finished. Ship 434 will be here for Live TV and
54 MX757 : Update: I just watched 442 take off. Flight 1087 to IAH.
55 CALTECH : Someone had posted she was testing Carbon Brakes. There are almost no MX entries in Sceptre for her. The 737-900ER is a awesome aircraft, but # 434 c
56 IAHFLYR : Can't you guys ensure that 513 gets swapped for 518 today when it gets back to IAH from SNA, I really want TV's to watch later today!!
57 CALTECH : Sorry, not our department. Talk to Dispatch. Flew around the country in a CO 757-300, a awesome aircraft, and overseas lately, a LH A-330, a awesome
58 MX757 : Carbon brake testing for five months? I bet money that it had to do with financing. I'll bet a six pack with you though. I don't think there would be
59 Traindoc : I flew CO 178, SAT to IAH, on 9/30, which was a 737-900. Live TV was up and running. The system works well and is easy to use. However, the programing
60 Lincoln : First reaction: Well, duh! It is DirecTV, after all -- just a much smaller selection of channels. Second reaction: There are like 10 channels (COLTV)
61 IAHcsr : Ship 513 is doing IAH TPA IAH ELP IAH today.. The ELP turn is for UH football charter... wonder if they will get a freebie on the DTV...
62 PVG : I was recently on a CO 737-900 flight from LAX to IAH and tried the live TV. It was interesting to be watching live TV at 35k feet, but the signal was
63 BACCALA : That happend to me once on a flight from IAH to SEA and it lasted only for about 15 seconds if that.
64 Post contains links BACCALA : New deal will mean 95 channels for Continental. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...s-95-channels-for-continental.html
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