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Air France Concorde At LAS (Oct 1987) Help Needed!  
User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4780 times:

I've been looking for details for a long time and I'm hoping someone here can finally help me (my friend actually). My friend Wayne flew on a Concorde Mach 2 Discovery Flight (LAS-LAS) for around $1000 on October 17, 1987 at 9:00AM. He has all that info but he never documented the registration and I believe of the hundreds of flights he's logged, this is possibly the only missing tail number. It frustrates him and I was looking for the answer to complete the puzzle. If there's any way you can let me know any info you may have, registration, runway used for departure/arrival or if there's anyone who may possibly have a photo of that occasion I would appreciate it beyond words.

Thanks for any help.
Ryan

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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2224 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4707 times:
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As for the runway I'm pretty sure it was 25 for length. I remember the visit and the T.O. and fairly sure of the number. If this was in 1987 I'm not that sure as the only Concorde visit I can find a record of so far was in December 1991.

[Edited 2009-09-07 02:15:04]


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User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

Thanks for the reply, I know it visited in May of 1993 as well for a charter that is documented in three parts on YouTube. I also have tried every possible Google/YouTube search wording and find no proof of that visit either. He has a grainy VHS video that even documents the date and the whole flight experience but that doesn't show the info he was looking for.

Thanks again.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7380 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4638 times:



Quoting M404 (Reply 1):
If this was in 1987 I'm not that sure as the only Concorde visit I can find a record of so far was in December 1991.

There was also a visit on 5 October 1994. There is a photo of the landing near the bottom of this page:

http://www.lasvegas2005.org/mediacenter/photos-nb/

This photo is from the Las Vegas News Bureau. It might be worth contacting them to see if they have a photo of the October 1987 visit.


User currently offlineBorism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4410 times:



Quoting B737-112 (Thread starter):
He has all that info but he never documented the registration and I believe of the hundreds of flights he's logged, this is possibly the only missing tail number. It frustrates him and I was looking for the answer to complete the puzzle. If there's any way you can let me know any info you may have, registration, runway used for departure/arrival or if there's anyone who may possibly have a photo of that occasion I would appreciate it beyond words.

Surely FAA should have all this info in it's archives?


User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Is that info available to the public?

User currently offlineSANAV8R From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

I remember seeing in the "Las Vegas: A Pictorial Souvenir" Series of Books they had photos of McCarran and of the Concorde at LAS, albeit in the early editions (2, 3, 4) which were around 1995/96.

There might be some information on this at the UNLV Library Archives, at least on microfilm. I would assume this event made the paper that day and after. (10/17-10/18 87)

I might be able to go there when I have some time this week, as I think the special collections are closed today for Labor Day.


User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 883 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

I appreciate the effort, thank you so much!

User currently offlineBorism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4289 times:



Quoting B737-112 (Reply 5):
Is that info available to the public?

I don't see any reason why they would classify it, except perhaps if Concorde operated one of those Janet LAS-Area 51 flights  Smile

Even if it is restricted access, you can file FOIA request... and wait.

It might be a little hard to find 22 years later, but shouldn't be impossible.


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

While I cannot help with your request from 1987, it should be noted that Concorde was a regular visitor to LAS during the 80's, 90's and into the early 2000's too. It was not unusual for it to make multiple visits in the same year.

User currently offlineAeropix From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3991 times:



Quoting VV701 (Reply 3):
There is a photo of the landing near the bottom of this page:

http://www.lasvegas2005.org/mediacenter/photos-nb/

When you look at the second photo on the page there is a DC-6/7 clearly taken in the 1950's and the caption is for Antonove 225 "the world's biggest airplane".

Funny recollection about the 1994 Concorde visit in the photo, I was there in the 25L spotters' parking area getting some great touchdown photos. I had been on the ramp earlier doing some photos in the boneyard and was informed that Concorde would be arriving in the afternoon, and they expected it to land on runway 01 as the wind was from the north that day. Unfortunately my friend could not have me out on the field for the arrival due to security or whatnot, and in those days I really didn't think of Concorde as a big deal, so I continued with my favorite afternoon shots on 25L.

A couple of dutch or german enthusiats asked me if I knew about Concorde coming in and I said "sure I do, but you guys are in the wrong spot, since it's going to land way over there on runway 01". They asked me well what was I doing here at 25's if it's really landing there on 01, unlike all the other traffic, and I told them "hey my buddy in airport ops told me it's coming in on 01, but I'm just not that keen on Concorde and rather shoot all this charter stuff here" They gave me a look like "hey this guy's trying to screw us over" and just stayed there in the 25 lot waiting for Concorde.

Needless to say it landed 20 minutes later on 01, unlike all other landing traffic! The look on their face was priceless, but tragic nonetheless. I just said, "see I told you it's landing 01!" Poor guys just thought I was trying to screw them over to keep Concorde all to myself, ended up missing it!


User currently offline1R7flier From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

hey guys this is my first post but I have a question similiar to this about the concorde... My dad has a picture of my brother and I in front of a concorde (I believe it was a British Airways bird) taken at JAN. Does anyone know when or why it was there? There is no date on the picture, but from the age I look in the picture, I'm thinking it was around 1987 or 1988.

Any info?



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7402 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3647 times:

Concorde landed in LAS for the first time on March 4th 1987. It was Air France F-BVFF.

LAS was one of the stop of a Concorde World Tour. Concorde was arrinving from HNL. The flight HNL-LAS took 2h54mn of which 1h52mn were flown at supersonic speed over the Pacific.


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