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Is It A Good Idea To Fly With PIA  
User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 2
Posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

HI

I'VE JUST BOOKED A SEAT TO FLY WITH PIA IN JULY TO KARACHI FROM MANCHESTER, BUT AM HAVING DOUBTS OF FLYING WITH THEM.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I AM FLYING WITH THEM. BUT JUST WONDERED WHAT THEIR SERVICE IS LIKE. I'VE HEARD BAD REPORTS. IS IT TRUE ?

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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

An old British flight engineer used to say the Pakistanis and flying do not mix !

User currently offlineBigmo747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

GF-A330---try scheduling for a flight on the 743--and make sure it's one of the flights that continues on to JFK--try and avoid the Manchester terminators--i've flown both and i felt that the service is much better for the New York flights--but a sincere suggestion--try and avoid the 742's--they are prone for delay's--let me know-what u decide on

regards


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

I've flown PIA from Dubai to Heathrow and the flight was excellent. On time, clean aircraft (747-200 btw), efficient crew and yummy food (two meal services). Very civilised clientele. Saying things like "Pakistanis and flying don't mix" may sound witty and superior but it's also racist bullshit. In the new millenium, Flight Engineers and flying don't mix, yet PIA are flying high. Who's laughing now?!


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

Yes, I've heard that the 743 is a good plane as it is an ex-cathay pacific. The economy class has PTV's.

I've had a look on the PIA website and it suggests that I will be flying on a 743 afterall.

Although I have heard bad reports about the cabin crew, who are known to be careless with no consideration given to their passengers.


User currently offlineHash From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Please tell us how it goes. I might be flying PIA soon and want to know what its like. Thanks

User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

No need to "scream" GF-A330.
Why don't you go to http://www.dooyoo.co.uk and read the comments on PIA there?
And if you find safety reports important, you should know that Pakistan does not fully meet the ICAO standards: http://aviation-safety.net/database/operator/PIA.shtml

Regards.



I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

LMMl 14/32,i wonder if you could ask the engineer,that is if he is still alive,whether that was supposed to be a joke ......im sorry to say but i didnt find it funny at all. Specially considering that PIA played the key role in training the likes of Emirates,Malaysian,Singapore,Qatar airways and nearly 25 more airlines during the 70's and the 80's.Bad management has single handedly destroyed what was once a very prosperous airline(first in asia to own a B707 and B737).But i would never blame their "flying" for it as your funny engineer friend did.
Anyhow to answer GFA330's question......well let me tell you that the only problem in flying with PIA is that they are not consistent.They aint cosistently good or consistently bad.In the recent past i have heard many first hand accounts of people who flew PIA and most of them were pleasantly surprised themself by the service and everything.But because of the consistency issue you will surely hear about the odd-bad experience ...which would most likey have been blown out of proportions anyway. I think all MAN flights are served with B747-300 with PTV on every seat.And i do somewhat agree with Bigmo747 with the JFK terminator flights being better.
Personally i'd say go ahead and enjoy the great food they serve on PIA and have a great trip on an airline that gets way more then its share of bad publicity.


User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

THANKS FOR YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE OPINION.

User currently offlineSHABAZ From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

GF-A330 DO NOT FLY PIA, JUST AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE.

THERE ARE A FEW AIRLINES WHO TRULY DESERVE THE BEST FLYING TRASH CAN AWARD AND PIA ARE CERTAINLY THE WINNERS FOR IT.

I FLEW WITH THEM BACK FROM PAKISTAN ON 7 APR 01. YOU CAN READ MY TRIP REPORT.

THE CABIN CREW ARE NON EXISTANT. THEY ARE OLD, FAT AND NASTY.

THE PLANES AND PILOTS ARE SCARY.


AND THE FOOD....THE LESS SAID THE BETTER.

PROS: ARRIVE AT UR DESTINATION EARLIER THAN SCHEDULED......THATS WHEN THEY WANT TO !

CONS: HUH !


User currently offlineAIRMALE From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

I agree with KHI747 but SHABAZ's comment about PIA's cabin crew is precise, dont the lot want to retire and give the youngsters a chance Smile


.....up there with the best!
User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

MY SEATS HAVE BEEN BOOKED EARLIER NOW, A MONDAY INSTEAD OF A WEDNESDAY BECAUSE THE TRAVEL AGENT HAD CROSSED THE DATES !

ANYWAY, NOW I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT I WILL BE FLYING IN A PIA 747-236M WHICH IS A COMBI. I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THEY ARE MORE THAN 20 YEARS OLD!

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM THIS.

ARE THE INTERIORS ANY GOOD OR SHOULD I EXPECT CRAP.


User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

I am going to fly PIA soon as well  Smile/happy/getting dizzy definatly on a 743.

PS Can people not write all their text in capitals?

LGW


User currently offlineRm-11 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

I have flown with PIA several times. The only problems I had were with passengers. The food is great. I have also had great food on Delta ATL-LGW (steak, economy class).

PIA has aquired CAA Category-I status. The link provided by NoUFO is outdated.

I have traveled alot and the only airlines that I have had frequent problems with are American and American West. I would rate PIA as one of the best airlines I have flown on.


User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

Rm-11 is that an honest opinion.

Out of curiosity which sector did you fly on.

Do you know if the service on their 747-200 combi's are any good.


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

This may sound strange but my aunt who worked for PIA for thirty years never flew them internationally, she always opted for the foreign airlines Smile


.....up there with the best!
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Ive flown their A300s and 747-200s in 1991. The flights were no better or no worse than any european carrier, and a lot better than most american carriers.

The food was great. No liquor of course. Flight attendants were charming. No real complaints.
In 1991, PTVs etc were unknown, so PIAs entertainment options were fairly standard in the industry.


User currently offlineGOOFY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

Hello,

Firstly, if you have already confirmed about travelling with PIA, have a nice trip.

I flew with them from Karachi-Islamabad-Frankfurt-Dulles Intl.-Toronto. It took us exactly 24 hours with some airport delays (not PIA's fault). The aircraft was B747 200 not combi or anything. I was with my family in economy class and I have to say that the service was excellent. Sure, you wouldn't find passengers all dressed up, wearing perfumes on their body, nicely styled and you wouldn't find the airhostess modern and talking as if they knew passengers through out their lives. Sure, most of the passengers and the crew will be ordinary looking. Sure the food won't be from McDonalds or KFC neither would you get first class treatment but I would say that they are GREAT.

As long as the age is concerned, our lives depends on nature. I mean, if you are muslim, Allah knows when you are going to die and I don't know about other people. PIA transports millions annually and Alhamdollilah there hasn't been any deaths in the last couple of years for PIA.
P.S.
I would say that about 75% complaints about PIA people make are just silly. It is the habit of Pakistanis to believe what is told as true and spreading the word to other people.


User currently offlineSA365C1 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

PIA stands for Perhaps......I Arrive!!!!!!

User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

No SA365C1,PIA actually stands for Pakistan International Airlines...... but anyway thanks for trying to be funny.

User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 1994 times:

A joke (probably made up by westerners) about the carriers from the subcontinent:

PIA - Please Inform Allah
AI - Already Informed


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