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First Head Of State To Cross The Atlantic  
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1164 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5351 times:

As the subject says, who was the first (King, Duke, Prince, President, Prime Minister) to cross the Atlantic Ocean to/from the Americas using a jet.
I would assume maybe an American President on Aifroce one, or maybe Queen Elizabeth II to visit her people in Canada.

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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3602 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5142 times:

I think that Churchill, FDR, and Truman all made their TATL travels by ship, so I would guess Ike was the first by plane. Can't find an answer right now on google at ATL.

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5749 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5117 times:
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Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 1):
Churchill

Though not a head of state (the OP did mention Prime Ministers) Churchill made some of his wartime trips across the Atlantic by plane, one where he flew to Bermuda to join a RN war ship but decided to continue by plane.
Winnie was quite the aviation enthusiast.



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User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2960 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5100 times:

it was Roosevelt with his famous trip to casablanca on board a Pan Am clipper plane.......


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26029 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5093 times:



Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
As the subject says, who was the first (King, Duke, Prince, President, Prime Minister) to cross the Atlantic Ocean to/from the Americas using a jet.
I would assume maybe an American President on Aifroce one, or maybe Queen Elizabeth II to visit her people in Canada.

It may well have been Queen Elizabeth II who arrived in Canada (Gander, Newfoundland) on June 18, 1959 to begin a 45-day tour of Canada and the U.S. Video below of her BOAC Comet 4 landing at Gander.
http://archives.cbc.ca/society/monarchy/clips/229/

I believe the first transatlantic (or any other) trip by a U.S. President on a jet was President Eisenhower's trip to Europe in late August 1959 on one of the 3 early USAF 707-120s (VC-137A, later redesignated VC-137B when re-engined with JT3D turbofans). Scroll down to Clip 47 on the following page for news footage of his arrival in London August 27,1959. He was arriving from Germany where he met with the German chancellor the day before so I believe the first Presidential flight on a jet was probably August 26, 1959.
http://www.itnsource.com/compilation...atesanddecades/1950s/?lr=S05030702

Those three early 707s were acquired for general VIP use, not specifically for Presidential travel. I think the first jet acquired for that purpose was the first VC-137C (707-320B) which was used by JFK.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26029 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5085 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 1):
I think that Churchill, FDR, and Truman all made their TATL travels by ship, so I would guess Ike was the first by plane. Can't find an answer right now on google at ATL.

Note the original poster is asking about the first head of state to cross the Atlantic on a JET.


User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5080 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 1):
I think that Churchill, FDR, and Truman all made their TATL travels by ship, so I would guess Ike was the first by plane. Can't find an answer right now on google at ATL.

I remember some documentary I once saw on the history of Air Force One mentioned that FDR did in fact cross the Atlantic by plane -- to attend the Yalta Conference if I remember correctly, but maybe other times too. They said due to German submarines paroling the Atlantic the Secret Service decided it would be slightly safer for the president to travel by plane. I don't know if he was the first head of state to cross by plane, but he was the first US president to do so.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5055 times:



Quoting Alberchico (Reply 3):
it was Roosevelt with his famous trip to casablanca on board a Pan Am clipper plane.......

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FDR travelled on the Dixie Clipper to the Casablanca Conference. The Atlantic Clipper also accompanied the Dixie Clipper on the mission as the communications aircraft and would send and receive any important messages for FDR. The first sector of the flight to the Casablanca Conference was from Miami to Trinidad and covered 1,630 miles.


User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5749 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4930 times:
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Quoting Alberchico (Reply 3):
it was Roosevelt with his famous trip to casablanca on board a Pan Am clipper plane.......

Churchill's return to England in early 1942 actually predates this by a year or so.
This was the trip where he was supposed to meet the HMS Duke of York in Bermuda but decided to complete the journey by plane.

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PS Noted, OP reference to jet



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4625 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 1):
I think that Churchill, FDR, and Truman all made their TATL travels by ship,

President Eisenhower was the first US President to travel by jet, so I would think that puts him on the likely list of first heads of State to cross the Atlantic via Jet.

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/34032464.html



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4360 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4584 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 9):
President Eisenhower was the first US President to travel by jet, so I would think that puts him on the likely list of first heads of State to cross the Atlantic via Jet.

Viscount724 mentioned that trip was in august 1959, while Elizabeth went to Canada by Comet on 18 June 1959, so she is the winner here. I don't think she ever took a Comet 1 which also didn't fly long trips. Chrutchev of the Soviet Union went to the USA by Tu-114 with turboprops, the 104 didn't have the range.



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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4575 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
It may well have been Queen Elizabeth II who arrived in Canada (Gander, Newfoundland) on June 18, 1959 to begin a 45-day tour of Canada and the U.S. Video below of her BOAC Comet 4 landing at Gander.
http://archives.cbc.ca/society/monar.../229/

I have a book stating this was her 1st visit to Canada by Jet as well. Unless Ike flew over before that (I don't think he used the VC-137s before that?) I would say this would be the winner?



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4550 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 3):
it was Roosevelt with his famous trip to casablanca on board a Pan Am clipper plane.......




FDR travelled on the Dixie Clipper to the Casablanca Conference. The Atlantic Clipper also accompanied the Dixie Clipper on the mission as the communications aircraft and would send and receive any important messages for FDR. The first sector of the flight to the Casablanca Conference was from Miami to Trinidad and covered 1,630 miles.

Not at all, and once again, the OP asked for the first person by jet!!!


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