PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7771 posts, RR: 26 Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13366 times:
Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 6): senseless, polemic comment. Please be reminded that this is not the place for political statements.
calm down. It's not up to you to judge my remarks.
Senseless is the reporting that Mr. M. survived the landing, there were about 87 other people on board who survived it as well and let's all be glad about that. Mr. M. will survive my remark as well, he is an expert at making similar statements.
Flight must have been LH288, they circled for about an hour over STR. Contact Air flies tor LH and LX, I happened to be on a Contact Air F100 last year ZRH-WAW.
LH470 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 56 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13358 times:
Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 6): Was this flight on behalf of LH? I wasn't aware that Contact Air's Fokkers operate out of TXL
Yes, it was flight LH 288
The F100s of Contact Air are based in STR. They operate for LH to TXL, HAM, BRE (and soon to HAJ). Some F100s are also operated for LX.
Most LH flights from STR to TXL and HAM (and all to BRE) are operated by aircrafts which are based in STR. Therefore, the F100s are now quite common on those routes.
Enginebird From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13357 times:
LH470 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 56 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13331 times:
Quoting Enginebird (Reply 11): Yep, LH288. Contact Air's Fokker 100 seem to operate predominantly on behalf of LH and air painted in LH/Star Alliance livery
The aircraft involved seems to be D-AFKE, which is the first in LH Regional livery.
Enginebird From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13280 times:
Quoting LH470 (Reply 12): The aircraft involved seems to be D-AFKE
Looks like it, check out picture 4 of the pictures found here (thanks to FI for sending me the link): Stuttgarter Nachrichten
Tobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 643 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13246 times:
According to German media, there were 82 pax + 5 crew onboard. 5 pax suffered a traumatic shock, one flight attendant was brought to hospital for checking. Could have been worse, obviously.
PA, AF, UK, BA, AB, DL, LH, FR, BD, A3, EZY, DY //// A319/320/346, B733/735/73G/738/744/763, AT4, 146, CR2, DH4
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13095 times:
Are there any regs that state an aircraft must be able to make a belly landing? It's a true testament to the safety of airliners that the aircraft is able to land on it's belly without any casualties.
Tobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 643 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13063 times:
The plane involved, D-AFKE, entered LH Regional fleet only at the beginning of September this year. It is former PT-MRT (TAM) and B-12296 (Mandarin). Why was it acquired by LH, actually? I thought they are getting Embraers fro their regional fleet.
LH470 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 56 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 12984 times:
Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 18): Why was it acquired by LH, actually? I thought they are getting Embraers fro their regional fleet.
No, the F100s are not beeing acquired by LH but by Contact Air. However, I don't know why C3 chose to get F100s instead of E-Jets since IQ also gets brand new Embraers...
But I guess, C3 usually gets used aircraft. They also took the (used) ATRs from EW, when EW became an all jet fleet.
Hiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2118 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12749 times:
I am curious why the aircraft was allowed to land at STR....fuel was not an issue nor was time as it is reported as circling for an hour and the runway was foamed. Why would this potential incident be allowed to land at a basically one runway airport probably closing the field to future operations indefinitely? (FRA and MUC are close by just for starters and with far larger amounts of emergency rescue vehicles due to the larger airport size in case something went wrong. ) Luckily everything went well....aside from the airport being closed....
BlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2515 posts, RR: 25 Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12420 times:
PVGAMS From China, joined Apr 2009, 53 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12339 times:
Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 23): Am I the only one who clicked on the page, gave the pic a passing glance, and for a second mistook the page arrows for huge winglets?!
no you are not
25 Burkhard: 14 years old. Other F100 out there available. Only had three weeks with Contact Air. I assume it will go as spare parts.
26 PanHAM: yes, but easy to spot, an F10 would be too heavy for such a registration. The damage at FRA/MUC in terms of diverted flights would have been greater
27 KL911: Wow, just oneday after I asked here how many F100's were still in service. Grrrr. Hope they can repair it.
28 Tobias2702: An airport is not there for the airport's sake, but for the people living there. This has to be outbalanced, because a second rw would drastically in
29 PanHAM: excuse me, but an airport is there for the people and has to have the proper infrastructure so it can serve the people in its catchment area properly
30 BERFlyer: During the time they circled the Aircraft did several "close by" flying manouvers to the tower were some technicans were trying to find out whats wron
31 MUCFLYER: finally the decision where to go rests with the pilot. Yes, STR airport is well equiped for any aircraft rescue and recovery actions. STR airport wit
32 MUCFLYER: here are two pics: http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=873510 http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=873511
33 Burkhard: Definitvely a proper belly landing... Congrats to the pilot, well done.
34 MUCFLYER: here is a video of the landing: http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2009/09...-wurde-auf-video-festgehalten.html
35 SandroZRH: Der Flugkapitän hat die FAHRgäste gewarnt. hmmm
36 NEMA: BBC News shows a video of the landing here... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8255851.stm
37 Thomas_Jaeger: If ACARS reports are right, then this was only the 12th scheduled leg of D-AFKE with Contact Air: 11SEP09 STR-BRE BRE-STR STR-BCN BCN-STR STR-TXL TXL-
38 SandroZRH: maybe better not to tell them, just imagine if Bild gets that info
39 Viscount724: I believe Contact Air F100s currently operate LX flights ZRH-WAW and ZRH-VCE, 3 daily roundtrips on each route. Not sure if they do anything else for
43 SandroZRH: aah yeh. Too many F100 operators around here
44 A340Spotter: Also ZRH-BRU on the mid-afternoon flight, at least they were 1-2 weeks ago. JSD
45 Kiwiandrew: that landing certainly put the "contact" into contactair
46 NicoEDDF: Whoooo...didn't know its already political incorrectness to talk about politicians in a democrazy. Who far have we come to dare to talk about our rep
47 Tobias2702: Just my opinion, may I bring a quote forum description for the Non-Aviation forum: " This is the only forum where political comments are allowed. " A
48 JU068: @Tobias27207 I seriously think you need to drop it, there is no point, he might have been dumb or rude to mention it but you are being the same now by
49 Burkhard: I found this a nice, harmless, funny joke, and I'm sure that Mr. Müntefering who has some sense of humor would have considered this the same and lau
50 JU068: I was always wondering, how they remove the plane like that? Do they take it up with some sort of a crane and then on some truck, or how?
51 MHG: Atleast they fly ZRH-STR at weekends ! Just booked last sunday STR-ZRH-BHX-ZRH-STR with SWISS for oct 17/18 and all segments are Fokker 100 !!! (STR-
52 Godbless: The nightstop is always flown with C3 100's (STA STR: 2330; STD STR: 0550). This flight is used to shuttle the crews to ZRH as they are STR-based.
53 Slimshady: Getting back on track from the political discussion.... Doesnt the F100 have emergency blow down or a hand crank or some alternate means to get the ge
54 TurkishWings: The guys who filmed it are speaking Turkish
55 SXI899: The aircraft is scheduled to be flown to Fokker Services in Woensdrecht (EHWO) tomorrow for repairs. From what I've heard, it should be flying again i
56 Aviopic: Nope, it would not have helped in this case anyway. I was just about to post this. Damage isn't to bad and repair not to much of a problem.
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