- Secured financing for remaining 737 deliveries through 2011
- Selected GE engines for new 787s
- 22 more CRJ700s being ordered
- Eagle CRJ700s getting First Class
- ORD (+57 new flights): new mainline-HNL/ANC/YVR, new Eagle-YYC/ABE/AVP/CRW/DAY/FAR/SUX/JAX/LEX/MDT/RAP
- JFK (+6 new flights): new mainline-MAD/MAN/SJO/AUS, new Eagle-CMH/STL
- LGA (+2 new flights)
- DFW (+17 new flights): new mainline-SAL
- LAX (+2 new flights)
- MIA (+23 new flights): new Eagle-BHM/CHS/PNS/TYS
- STL (-46 flights)
- RDU (-9 flights)
- JFK is now called a "hub" officially
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8764 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 36687 times:
interesting (but not surprising) that there is a further pullback from STL
...At St. Louis, they will reduce daily departures by 46 and discontinue service to 20 destinations. After the reductions, American and Eagle will provide 36 departures per day to nine destinations. ....
It doesnt say which destinations but I would guess that most of them will be AA hubs
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
BHMNONREV From Australia, joined exactly 12 years ago today! , 1387 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 36649 times:
"As a result of the Company's network strategy, American and its regional affiliates plan to reduce operations at St. Louis and Raleigh/Durham. At St. Louis, they will reduce daily departures by 46 and discontinue service to 20 destinations. After the reductions, American and Eagle will provide 36 departures per day to nine destinations."
I guess the fat lady in STL must be warming up...
No surprise there, certainly expected for some time. Suppose all Connection flying is cut, leaving a few select Eagle routes including the new JFK service.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8764 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 36554 times:
interesting also that in the same release they advise the selection of engines for the not yet ordered 787s
...American also announced it has selected GE Aviation as the provider of engines for its expected order of Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners...
IIRC AA once before announced engine orders before airframe orders - many years ago they said that they were not yet ready to decide between the ( IIRC ) MD-XX and the 757 but that whatever they order it would be powered by PW2000s .... ...they even took out ads in a number of publications showing the aircraft as dotted outlines but with PW engines hanging off the wings ....then of course they went on to order RR powered 757s
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
IlliniCMI From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 35641 times:
Wow. Sad to see STL essentially "go away", guess I'll have to deal with ORD more often now if I want a direct flight out. I can see this actually having a positive impact on some of the smaller regional airports in the area, might as well connect out of them instead of STL, since now we'll be connecting pretty much everywhere anyway.
That said, I too like most of these changes. Glad AA is shaking things up and moving forward.
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2068 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 35458 times:
Quoting Commavia (Thread starter): - ORD (+57 new flights): new mainline-HNL/ANC/YVR, new Eagle-YYC/ABE/AVP/CRW/DAY/FAR/SUX/JAX/LEX/MDT/RAP
A lot of these are resumptions of what they hacked out a while ago right? I am assuming we will see more flights also added to a few select currently served cities? I would love to see TOL-ORD back to 4x daily.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4482 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 35374 times:
Quoting Contrails (Reply 12): I'm glad to hear about the 737's. They need to retire those MadDogs as soon as they can.
The Mad Dogs are still young. They will serve for another few years at least, if not until the early 2020's. I read somewhere (can't recall where, probably Wikipedia) that American has leases on the MD-80's expiring as late as 2024, is it true? Otherwise, I'm pretty confident that American will still have a bunch of MD-80's well into the mid 2010's. It looks like the last one will be retired in the early 2020's. By that time the 738 retirement will begin.
Whenever I fly domestic I look for a Super 80, those are pleasant to fly on. I prefer them over the 737's. If the global economy improves, American may slow down the retirement of the 80's and keep those longer.
Jsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2231 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 35380 times:
Quoting Commavia (Thread starter): ORD (+57 new flights): new mainline-HNL/ANC/YVR, new Eagle-YYC/ABE/AVP/CRW/DAY/FAR/SUX/JAX/LEX/MDT/RAP
Do we have any visibility into the 57 new flights? Obviously at least half of them are the new service listed above. Do we know where AA will be adding back frequencies? Some of the cuts they made last spring ran really deep - Pittsburgh, for example, got cut from five flights a day to a measly three. Will we see some mid-morning and late-evening departures return on selected routes that lost them earlier this year?
I'm also guessing the "redeployment" of "most" CR7 aircraft into the Chicago market - as stated in the press release - means that we'll probably a few more mainline routes convert over to Eagle. ABQ, IND and DTW are already going all-Eagle (if they haven't already) and some other routes like MSY and ATL are operating in mixed mode. I'm willing to bet with this announcement we might see the end of mainline service from Chicago to ELP and maybe even MCI as well.
If American is in fact taking over Delta's vacated gates on Concourse L, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more gates on H converted over to Eagle. Back in 2004 we saw most of the former Fokker gates (H1-H4) switch to Eagle. I could see H5 and possibly K1-K2 converting as well, but I'm just guessing here...
All in all I'm happy to have more choices on AA here in Chicago (the last year I think they cut a bit too deeply) but it's naive to think that it won't come without some mainline service reductions. The addition of first class on the CR7s is huge, however, and long overdue.
Now THAT is a surprise. I thought AA would only order GE engines when pigs flew, as it seemed that they preferred RR. Well, since they've been taking delivery of 738s with CFMs (as it's the sole engine supplier), GE must have given them a sweet deal on both the GENx and the CFM. Anyway, this is exciting news! Congrats to AA & GE!
Well, 36 departures is no hub, nor is it really a focus city. IMO, STL should just have flights to AA's hubs. AA really has no need for a STL hub, anyway; it's too close to ORD. I think what they've got now is a good balance: JFK, MIA, ORD, DFW. This allows them to allocate their resources more effectively.
Quoting Contrails (Reply 12): I'm glad to hear about the 737's. They need to retire those MadDogs as soon as they can.
So am I. The M80s need to go!
Another thing I want to add is that I think they should add PTVs with LiveTV in the 738s, for business reasons. If they are going to have a major hub at JFK, they need something to compete with B6 and with CO (from EWR). If they want to charge for it, that's their prerogative, but IMO, they should have the option available so they can match B6 and CO. An advantage to this is that they can refit their existing 738s and have the new ones factory-delivered from Boeing with them installed.
Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 9): Also confirmed is the start of ORD-PEK in Spring 2010.
They also need to start ORD-HKG. Hong Kong is a major Chinese city that AA does not serve. UA has a monopoly on the route and is reaping a goldmine. Competition on that route would be a great thing! Plus, it would allow AA passengers to connect with CX flights.
AVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 35294 times:
From the AA press release:
The Company remains committed to its largest hub and will add 19 daily departures for a total of 780. The increase will consist of 17 mainline jet departures. In addition, service to San Salvador, El Salvador will be re-instated after a two-year hiatus, bringing total non-stop destinations from DFW to 160."
I assume the specific additions for DFW have yet to be announced, as this says there will be 19 total additional daily departures, 17 of which are mainline. And are the two additional flights for Eagle at DFW a new destination yet to be announced?
: Glad to know AA is expanding in Europe. JFK-MAD/MAN are great news for them and for travelers.
: Great to hear Miami is getting 23 new flights. Any word on the break down of those flights? I know we will be getting new flights to BHM, PNS, TYS, CH
: Maybe this is a delayed response to JetBlue's JFK-AUS Service? Today's schedule for B6 is 3x daily JFK-AUS which two are 320s
: JFK-MAN will be a seasonal flight, operated between 16th May 2010 and 30th September 2010 using international configured Boeing 757-200 aircraft. JFK-
: Don't they need APA's blessing to fly the additional CR7's?
: Don't forget DL's 73G's, 738s, and domestic 763s out of JFK... There's rumors that CX will launch ORD-HKG in mid-2010, and will codeshare with AA at
: No, the current scope contract already allows for an additional 23 (or 25?) 70-seat aircraft to be flown by Eagle.
: Though probably darn near impossible, it would be nice to have DAB-DFW like we had in 2003. I think the reason why DL dropped it was because they clos
: ORD-PIT will have three daily flights added, bringing it up to six daily.
: Do you know of the cities that are increasing frequencies? Just wondering...
: I'm interested to see how they will replace the CRJ flights out of DFW.
: What about FWA? We were cut from 4x daily to 3x daily (except Saturdays where it's 2x) on ORD-FWA and 3x daily to 2x daily on FWA-DFW (all Eagle flig
: Per the WSJ article, it is GE that is providing the financing: "American turned to General Electric Co. with a $1.6 billion of aircraft sale-leasebac
: Anyone know if ORD-ANC/HNL are seasonal or year round. Also will ORD-HNL be daily?
: The final end of the STL hub. I hope they keep the Admirals' Club.
: Sorry, I don’t know about any frequency changes to specific cities yet apart from Chicago-Pittsburgh. Some emerging details about the frequencies o
: They have a lot of catching up to do with the likes of CO and DL. But credit where credit is due!
: News like this is playing offense rather than defense. Nice to see that AA is protecting its turf especially in NYC. Watch out Delta. I also like the
: Add one or two more Asian destinations from DFW to Asia and that completes my list.
: Is SAN not a seasonal route? It is still listed on the schedule to return 4/6/10. When they announced the restart of BOS-SAN for this April it was li
: Won't this route be a bit of a stretch for these 757's, with MAD at 2,000ft elevation and Summer temperatures often above 100F for a mid-day departur
: This explains why I got an email that AMR was up over 20% today.
: I thought she has been singing for quite a while she just has not gotten to the end of the song yet. There goes TWA completely then if it has not alr
: That probably reflects AMR's securing $2.9 billion in new debt facilities as much as the route announcement.
: Any other changes for MSY besides losing the four Eagle flight to STL? That really sucks. Hopefully another ORD or DFW will be added in its place, but
: Not to sound like a moron... How are they selecting engines when they have not firmed up their order?
: GECAS is giving them a huge loan immediately.
: I'm surprised too, actually. All of the public numbers for SEA and SFO are quite similar. SFO is a tad smaller but a tad higher yielding, and also pr
: I often wondered if AA/AE would return to MDT. The signs are still up at gate C1 , the ticket counter, and some de-icing equipment remained. October o
: A loan for what, to buy planes from Boeing direct?
: http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas.../2009/09/14/daily38.html?ana=yfcpc Among other things.
: Anyone know what (if any) changes in frequency might be on routes that lost flights back in fall 2008? Im curious in ORD-BUF/ROC/SYR that all are at 3
: This is essentially what they've done, though there is no need to throw away the high O&D markets from STL where they've done a lot of legwork to mai
: It would also be nice if they returned to Nassau from Chicago for the summer or something along the lines of that. As an employee at Chicago O'Hare wo
: Along with MSY, I think AUS is actually one of the most likely candidates for new WN service. I like AUS, SAT, MSY, BNA, and IND; I don't see SAN, bu
: Im so glad DFW-SAL is coming back. The Dallas area has the 5th largest Salvadoran community in the US after LA, Washingon DC, New York, and Houston.[E
: Any word on the proposed ORD-Europe routes anyone? BHX and GLA were rumoured a while ago.
: Awesome news! And I told you guys MIA-PNS/BHM were next. This is great. And, finally, first class on the CRJs! Any new Miami routes to Europe and Sout
: Wow, this is definitely a huge announcement from AMR Corp. The outlined fleet and network plan for the next several quarters sounds good. It's dishear
: CMH-JFK will operate twice daily according to employee website.
: I agree with your thoughts as well, and I wondered the same about SAN. It is a route where I can't really envision anyone other than WN flying it rig
: This is really exciting news for AA!! I'm really surprised by the AUS-JFK announcement, but no AUS-MIA. I'm sure AA has seen the goldmine that B6 has
: I'm curious too. CR7 would make things a lot easier on these runs, and also open up the possibility of flying MIA-ROC/SYR/BUF/YOW/MKE, all of which c
: Thanks for the (very) quick response. So, barring any other changes, there will be no change in frequency total from CMH, just the loss of 2 destinat
: I am also suprised that they are starting MIA-BHM/PNS with 2 nonstops each. Maybe we will see additional frequencies on MIA-IND/CVG/CMH/PIT.
: It is possible. AA is adding 23 daily flights to MIA in addition to the 15 already announced. The current schedule is 271 daily flights, and that inc
: The entire announcement today. I never said it was due to route announcements specifically.
: MSY .. with four flights to STL potentially going away .. I'm certain WN will step up to the plate with nonstop service and potentially a MSY-LIT-STL.
: MSY-STL and MSY-LIT-STL are both possible, but keep dreaming about the SHV service. Not gonna happen in the near future. Market is WAY too small. Che
: Well, I think the RDU focus is officially dead. I don't know who I could see backfilling anything. There just isn't that momentum to really backfill t
: If you consider AA's fleet, they have a rather substantial fleet of GE powered 767s, and of course operated the M11 and D10 with GE power. Sure, the
: 787-9's with GE reminds me of 20 years ago when they ordered all teh MD-11's, A300 and 763ER's with GE's, why they ordered 777 with RR was all beyond
: Indeed sir, we have been talking about this here for the past 2-3 years and it will finally happen. The missus will be tickled about being able to av
: Wow this is really big news, especially with the new destinations out of ORD. The reductions from STL aren't really a surprise as just about everyone
: I'm glad to see AA growing again at ORD. I would have like to have seen a couple of new long haul routes added too. I think this rumor has been around
: Do you think they would bump the E145s out of MIA or compliment them? If they were to compliment them and maybe upgrade them on existing routes, do y
: I wonder if this opens the door for 777LR with the deal from GE >? All in all great news esp for ORD
: Some ER4 routes - like CLT and JAX - work pretty well on the ER4.
: Probably got a great deal on those CRJ-700's, Bombardier is hurting right now. Good deal on the GEnx's, let's get that puppy in the air! What's the wo
84 TAN FLYR
: well as a former resident of FWA, I sure would like to see mainline return, but that probably will not happen until a new 100 seater comes along (ass
: WOW..it's not every day you read expansion of routes across the board, upgrading fleet from AMR! Right On! Hmm I am dying to know what the new 23 depa
: good luck getting AA's pilots to agree to any of this. BTW The day AA does LAX-SYD is the day i become CEO of Delta. No way would AA go after QF. No
: Why would it? AA doesn't need the 777LR.
88 GSP psgr
: Gosh, American doesn't seem to like GSP much-no return of ORD and no new MIA service either....on the other hand, they are now adding some additional
: I'm confused here. Exactly what needs to be changed image wise? I'm quite happy with their product and somewhat planted seat they have in the US mark
: the resumption of HNL/ORD service is great news.
: Great news for AA, their hubs, and the many new destinations and market pairs. I like the MIA additions most. Too bad PVD didn't make the list of dots
: Does anyone know the date of these schedule changes? "2010" is as close as I've been able to find.
: Actually CX just had news out yesterday (the HAECO announcement) and as part of the announcement they stated that they are not looking at cancelling
: AA could get 777-300ER's and 777LR's with those 787-9's. By then the first 777 AA got could belong in tooth.
: Great news! So correct me if I am wrong, but Portland and Sacramento are the two largest US cities lacking AA nonstops to ORD. No surprise that STL wa
: Anyone know what will happen to the 15 E140s CHQ was flying out of STL under the AX banner? I assume 1-2 of them will be used for the CHQ AX ORD flyin
: Well I predicted this (STL cuts) about a month or so ago based on AA CSR scuttlebutt @ STL, they were thinking this fall so they were right, but a few
: I woner if AA will be back to ALB/PVD....I doubt it though. UA and WN through a party when they left.
: Great news! Few questions: - Anyone know the equipment for ORD-HNL. Hopefully 763. - Seating configuration for CR7's after F/C installation (how many
: I wonder why they haven't snapped up the ~20 CRJ700s QX is getting rid of?
: FWIW, 2 left the contract a few months ago, leaving only 13. I imagine many of them will wind up in YX colors...
: A few months back CHQ signed an extension with AA it downsized the operation to 13 planes. These planes will move to ORD in April.
: I think this all great for the future of AA, I look forward to it! Here is my question...there is no mention of the SJU hub and bringing back much of
: Happen to know how long the extension was? Does it expire in 2013?
: Well I think the 777LR could be used for DFW/SYD ORD/BOM I'm sure there is some more they could think of
: Chicago is the best hub for Europeans connecting on AA...very good news to see it growing. ORD is kind of a bellwether I think, when times are bad it
: Also they are adding CR-7 which right they are at the scope clause limit on them based on seat count. When they F class seats they are going to drop d
: What new flights are going to be started at LAX?
: AA/Eagle will add only three daily flights to SJU, bringing the combined total up to 67 daily flights for summer 2010. STL will no longer be classifi
: When AA bought TWA, getting the STL made sense. The summer of 2000 was miserable at ORD, between Chicago having one of the stormiest summers in years
: Very, very, very interesting developments! AA is all too often criticized on here for playing very conservatively while its rivals like CO, DL, and US
: According to our company memo all AE CRJs will have 2 class configs. Existing CRJs in the fleet (25) will start getting upgraded Spring 2010. The oth
: BOS will remain unchanged overall at 66 daily flights, while SJU will have three daily flights added to bring it up to 67.
: Any news on BUF/ROC/SYR? Frequency additions to ORD, restoration of DFW and/or a CR7 to MIA? Please!
: So what is the gate situation at STL? Now that they are down to 37 flights/day with no plans to add any much more, why doesn't AA give their gates to
: In all fairness, AA has always had historic strength in the major core U.S. markets. CO, DL and US are much more the amalgamation of smaller regional
: Seems that EWR will also be getting the shaft after they loose their 4x daily STL flights...now it will be down to 5x ORD, 6x DFW, 1x LAX, 3x MIA. No
: STL has had more gates than it knows what to do with for some time. AFAIK, none of the current AA gates can handle both RJs and mainline, so they'll
: Im wondering the same thing Panam. I will try to get some more info from they guys here to see if they have heard anything. If ROC gets just one more
: So will RDU get upgraded on some of their flights? Namely ORD (3 MD80, 2 CRJ) and DFW (5 MD80)? So this will leave RDU with ORD, MIA, DFW, BOS, LGA, J
: Interestingly enough, RDU is now a bigger station than STL for AA.
: I'm relatively certain, though, that STL will have more domestic seats and ASMs.
: WHAT??? That's impossible! That must mean RDU is going to get further cuts in the near future. Is STL still considered a hub after the cuts? Regardle
: Well, according to the article STL will have 36 departures and 9 destinations. RDU will have 44 departures to 8 destinations.
: There is a post earlier that mentioned that BOS-CMH and BOS-SAN were being dropped. I wonder where they are adding flights. AA has 66 flights? I'm su
: Any chance these will actually be CRJ-705's and not 700s? Seems kind of strange to add 700s at this point. The CR7 backlog is zero for a reason...
: Interesting.. I wonder if any RDU flights will get upgraded? 44 flights 1x LHR (763) 3x MIA (738) 8x DCA (ERJ) 5x DFW (will this upgrade to 738s?) 11x
: Perhaps the news isn't great for everyone. This is quite simply very sad for the city of St. Louis. I've often said that its ridiculous people whine
: I can definitely think of a few routes that, down the road maybe five years from now, could definitely work, but wouldn't be feasible (or would be pr
: With all due respect Com, AA has about a 13% combined domestic/international revenue share of the LAX O&D market. UA is about the same. WN and DL are
: Let me re-phrase. I was not meaning that other airlines were not also huge at LAX. AA is one of the dominant players at LAX, and is particularly a do
: AA might be a little slow, but they are finally getting it. Now, if they want to aid their image rebuidling at NYC, maybe they should spend some money
: With regional jets getting a first class cabin is there ANY chance AA will ever offer some type of premium economy? There have got to be some roues th
: Much better! They have moved very conservatively, but I agree that this is a good sign for them. There is no need to remodel LGA as the PANYNJ is goi
: Any bets on how long they stay in FAR, SUX, etc ?
: Good memory, but I don't recall MDC had any serious design to challenge the 757 at the time when AA ordered the PW2000 around 1980. Eventually, AA or
: Can't say much about SUX, but I can guess that they will be in FAR for at least 6 months to see how the loads to develop and then AA can evaluate wha
: The AAnouncement wAAs finAAlly mAAde! Regarding ORD to MCI going to RJs, they would have to increase flights. Everytime I'm in KC, the ORD and DFW fli
: Well if AA does start a CR7 MKE-MIA non-stop route with F seats I think I'd breakdown and cry with joy. Although it could really put a hurt on my ban
: Why would DL need to do this when DL has the CRJ 900 with F/C
: Why is ABQ being downgraded to Eagle? ORD-ABQ has always been flown with MD-80s.
: Is AE buying all of their CRJ-700's from Bombardier? Could this be the new home for all of those QX CR7's that they have been trying to sell? Is it po
: SUX is a very small market, I don't see this lasting.
: I am assuming AA/AE will receive the new Next Gen CRJ-700 frames? what are some of the differences that passengers will see between the "Old CR7" with
: awww, so sad. Sorry! But, it is always darkest before dawn and while AA may never come back in force (never an ideal fit anyway), to my way of thinki
: SUX is Sioux Falls, IA. FSD is Sioux Falls, SD. This should be FSD, not SUX. Also, FSD has quite a bit of banking business with many connections to LG
: I don't know why everyone is saying SUX. AA is not going going to be serving SUX (which is Sioux City, IA). They will be serving FSD (Sioux Falls, SD
: My guess for FAR, FSD, RAP would be 1 year tops. I'm not sure about FAR, but AA flew F100s ORD-FSD for approx 2 years during the early 90s. Eagle res
: Its great to see AA investing in CRW. I think the response to their LGA service played a big part in their decision to add ORD. Its also great to see
: I would not have been shocked at AA announced ORD-GEG on CR7's. GEG has a large concentration of AS frequent fliers and could pull on that marketing d
: The Port Authority has in their capital plans a $1.2 Billion Dollar rebuilding of the Central Terminal Building at LGA, it's in the planning stages a
: Congrats to AA and its supporters... There is a pulse in the strategy group over there. AA is clearly expecting some recovery of business in order to
: Leave it to WT to bring the "every airline pails in comparison to DL" viewpoint into the mix. Let AA have its day w/o going down that road. These wer
: Just got home and read all this. Disappointed in the service cuts for STL, guess I'll be doing more changing of flights in ORD and DFW. C Concourse is
: Personally, I think AA is lacking in the 90 seat market..With this you could see ALB/PVD return as well as ALB/PVD/ROC/BUF-MIA/DFW. But until that day
: AA's been that same "distant #3" for decades, and they seem to be surviving somehow. Well, obviously AA doesn't need to be "aggressive" on the MAD ru
: Any ideas when the specifics not announced as part of this news, such as who gets the additional AA and Eagle flights to DFW, will be revealed?
: I suspect they'll be tricking out in schedule loadings (every week on Sunday) over the next 4-6 weeks. My guess is that, definitely, by the time we g
: A couple of writers have suggested AA fly DFW or LAX to SYD. They tried that many years ago, and with their very close relationship with QF and the nu
: It has never been tried nonstop. Previously, AA flew DFW-HNL-SYD (and DFW-HNL-AKL) almost twenty years ago. That was with more expensive DC10s, and t
: SUX is SIOUX CITY, Iowa, not Sioux Falls, IA. SUX is the site of the 1989 crash of UA 232, a DC-10 enroute from DEN to ORD.
: Alright, that makes much more sense. FAR and FSD are pretty limited markets too though. I wouldn't hold your breath. WN would start GEG-MDW before AA
: SUX is Sioux City, IA, not Sioux Falls, IA. I apologize for this error as I had my head up my posterior when I typed that. I think AA would start ORD-
: Shows how much I payed attention, I didn't even see AVP! That's a bit surprising, but I guess UA only does 2x daily now, maybe they see some potentia
: I was thinking the same. UA's ORD service has been inconsistent at best out of FAR, as I have seen it first hand. Its a roller coasted ride. We all k
: As a big fan of the CRJ-700, I congratulate AA on their order!
: BOS-SAN is ending permanently, again. You mean how AA's pilots fly ORD-DEL with no issue? If AA wanted to fly to Australia, they could easily do so a
: FSD has a grant that AA was targeted for. It is possible that they may be using this grant to offset service startup there.
: I think that the grant was only targeted for service to DFW on AA, or DEN on F9. I doubt that they used the grant for this service. If they did, it w
: Sad to see STL finally get the plug, but I guess the writing was on the wall once they went down to below 100 flights. I always liked using it as an a
: Loses service totally or loses a frequency? If it goes away completely (I believe) that will leave WN as the sole provider of a IND-STL flight. David
: Loses all service, in fact it will eliminate all NS service to IND period as WN has not served the market in several years, IIRC..
: I guess STL is dead! You cant really call it anything other than a regular station with only 35 departures per day. Here in DEN we see 22ish a day and
: Good news, AA is trying to get the advantages of the markets where it's already a strong player to build up even more. At the same time, downsize wher
: Can't speak for the other routes, but it looks as if ORD-PEK will begin on May 1, 2010. AA has applied for a short extension to its dormancy waiver fo
: I think some folks here have it bass ackwards -- AA's moves are, at best, a lukewarm response to the Delta merger and CO/UA partnership. If I was Delt
: By what scale do you measure success?? AA's international RASM and yields are always higher than DL - quarter after quarter, year after year. It seem
: Ahhh, and the good news for SAN from our friends at AA just keeps on coming... (I'm breathlessly waiting to hear about all these new routes out of MI
: But the Embrears will all coach. Other than the TWA planes, the last time AA bought a large amount of planes from another carrier was back in the 80s
: I talked to one of the gate supervisors on the employee bus today and she said that AA isnt taking over the L side and that AA said that they can do
: Cockpit announcement soon to be heard on a VX A-320?: "Ladies and gentlemen, we will be landing at O'Hare airport soon..." bb