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United To Launch ORD To DLH/AVL & DEN To MAF  
User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 22 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

WOW...looks like UA is opening up some fun new markets, in addition to the LAX ELP from another thread.

Nice markets! Looks like they start in December.

-m

 airplane 

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User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 21 hours ago) and read 7878 times:

Is DLH-ORD going to be mainline service or regional jet? I'm happy to see another new airline serve DLH.


It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25388 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (5 years 21 hours ago) and read 7860 times:

All effective 12/17 and operated by SkyWest.

DEN-MAF
UA6295 1250-1532 CRJ
UA6420 1920-2202 CRJ
MAF-DEN
UA5852 0840-0920 CRJ
UA6295 1625-1705 CRJ

ORD-AVL
UA6340 1410-1651 CRJ
UA6592 1900-2141 CRJ
AVL-ORD
UA6119 0630-0720 CRJ
UA6340 1720-1810 CRJ

ORD-DLH
UA5783 1310-1441 CRJ
UA5921 2010-2141 CRJ
DLH-ORD
UA5750 0600-0727 CRJ
UA5783 1520-1647 CRJ



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5433 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 20 hours ago) and read 7617 times:

Are these new flights being announced today (Saturday) or are people just finding them today?

Seems like something has finally stirred the slumbering giant...

bb


User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 20 hours ago) and read 7376 times:

They are all EAS markets.

User currently offlineAirFRNT From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (5 years 19 hours ago) and read 7237 times:

First new service from UA in DEN in a while, even if it is CRJ route.

User currently onlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2302 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 19 hours ago) and read 7192 times:



Quoting CWAFlyer (Reply 4):
They are all EAS markets.

they can't be, these airports already receive service from other airlines

I wonder if UA will have more success on the DLH-ORD route than AA did? One thing they have going is the timing. With NWA merged into DL and DL's downgauge in aircraft they are using there UA would probably be more on par there than AA was with NWA.


User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 19 hours ago) and read 7090 times:

Any specific start-up date announced for these routes yet?


It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1541 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (5 years 19 hours ago) and read 7009 times:



Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 7):
Any specific start-up date announced for these routes yet?



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
All effective 12/17 and operated by SkyWest.

DEN-MAF
UA6295 1250-1532 CRJ
UA6420 1920-2202 CRJ
MAF-DEN
UA5852 0840-0920 CRJ
UA6295 1625-1705 CRJ

ORD-AVL
UA6340 1410-1651 CRJ
UA6592 1900-2141 CRJ
AVL-ORD
UA6119 0630-0720 CRJ
UA6340 1720-1810 CRJ

ORD-DLH
UA5783 1310-1441 CRJ
UA5921 2010-2141 CRJ
DLH-ORD
UA5750 0600-0727 CRJ
UA5783 1520-1647 CRJ




717,72S,732/3/4/5/G/8/9,744,752/3,763/4,772/3,D9S/5,M8/90,D10,319/20/21,332/3,388,CR2/7/9,EM2,ER4,E70/75/90,SF3,AR8
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4403 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (5 years 18 hours ago) and read 6801 times:
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Quoting CWAFlyer (Reply 4):
They are all EAS markets.

Yeah, especially MAF with those WN 737's doing EAS runs.
 Yeah sure

Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 6):
wonder if UA will have more success on the DLH-ORD route than AA did?

I sure hope so. This route will do well IMO if marketed well and priced decent.



Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 18 hours ago) and read 6681 times:

More options to get to AVL can't be a bad thing  bigthumbsup 


Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible.
User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4490 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (5 years 17 hours ago) and read 6537 times:



Quoting MattRB (Reply 10):
More options to get to AVL can't be a bad thing

Now only if we could get them back at TRI. Hope the route does well for them. Certainly seems like it should.



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2866 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (5 years 17 hours ago) and read 6475 times:

Wow! Both UA and AA really pushing into smaller and smaller markets these days! Let's hope all these new flights do well...
I'm sure the oil biz folks in Midland/Odessa will welcome the easy connection to Calgary and other oil cities...



Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineSkyguyB727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 17 hours ago) and read 6455 times:



Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 6):
I wonder if UA will have more success on the DLH-ORD route than AA did?

This is a resumption of previously operated UAX service. The UAX service DLH-ORD didn't last long in the past. With the current economy, should anyone expect it to do well now?

AA tried the route first with mainline service and later with Eagle service. Neither one lasted.


User currently offlineDLHFLYER From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 hours ago) and read 5547 times:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

This just made my day. I knew this had to be coming. Hopefully with Delta's cutbacks, United can establish itself. Its going to be tough to do.

Okay, I posted this on another thread a few weeks ago.

American served DLH-ORD from 1998-2002, and again from March 2004-September 2004 with 3 flights a day. When they were in town, o@d seemed to jump (a few times hitting the 60's), as flying made more sense (than driving). American had anywhere from 70-80% of the market share for flyers to O'Hare.


DLH-ORD o@d (from Air Fare Consumer Report)
1998 Q4- 69
1999 Q1 -53
1999 Q2 -67
1999 Q3 -59
1999 Q4 -48
2000 Q1 -35
2000 Q2 -50
2000 Q3 -59
2000 Q4 -48
2001 Q1 -43.6
2001 Q2 -50.3
2001 Q3 -46.4
2001 Q4 -36.7
2002 Q1 -38.8
2002 Q2 -48.8
2002 Q3 -62.9
2002 Q4 -41.5
2003 Q1 -20.9
2003 Q2 -36.8
2003 Q3 -32.9
2003 Q4 -30.9
2004 Q1 -29.6
2004 Q2 -62.6
2004 Q3 -68.7
2004 Q4 -45
2005 Q1 -31.8
2005 Q2 -35.2
2005 Q3 -39.1
2005 Q4 -35
2006 Q1 -30.3
2006 Q2 -38.5
2006 Q3 -51.7
2006 Q4-37.9
2007 Q1 -34.7
2007 Q2 -44.7
2007 Q3 -50.9
2007 Q4 -40.3
2008 Q1 -37.4
2008 Q2 -35.7
2008 Q3 -33.4
2008 Q4 -23.4

Keep in mind that flights to Chicago have to compete with driving. The drive is 469 miles, and about 8 hours. It's painful that there is no direct interstate (lots of little roads throughout Wisconsin), but people will drive to save money. At 469 miles (938 roundtrip), thats about $80 in gas (roundtrip) right now. If this route is going to succeed, the fares need to be in the low 200's. Even NWA (which is expensive from Duluth) has always charged low fares of below 250 to Chicago.


I was rumored that Duluth was going to pay 5 million to get Expressjet to Chicago. It obviously isn't Expressjet coming, but I wouldn't be suprised if Duluth offered that much money to United.

[Edited 2009-09-20 07:19:50]


Duluth is a nice city, we even get 3 months without snow per year
User currently offlineFlyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 5210 times:



Quoting MattRB (Reply 10):
More options to get to AVL can't be a bad thing

I'm sure if they can make it from ORD we could see some expantion from IAD as well but with a SAAB, not an RJ.

Just my 0.02



The opinions I post are of mine and mine alone, not of the airline I work for.
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11635 posts, RR: 61
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 5154 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
ORD-AVL
UA6340 1410-1651 CRJ
UA6592 1900-2141 CRJ
AVL-ORD
UA6119 0630-0720 CRJ
UA6340 1720-1810 CRJ

This is very interesting news, since Asheville Airport had been negotiating (pg 13, item C) - apparently in fairly advanced stages - to get Eagle flights to ORD starting next spring. Maybe United didn't want American hogging all the "new flights press" in Chicago this week and decided to get the jump on Eagle to Asheville?  Wink


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 5150 times:



Quoting Flyiguy (Reply 15):
I'm sure if they can make it from ORD we could see some expantion from IAD as well but with a SAAB, not an RJ.

I think IAD-AVL is a little longer than UA..well colgan.. wants to put a Saab in the air. ORD should do alright though.


User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 5033 times:



Quoting DLHFLYER (Reply 14):

Fares on DLH-ORD start at $242. If year-round service to DLH doesn't work maybe summer only flights could work.



It ain't no normal MD80 its a Super 80!
User currently offlineDLHFLYER From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 hours ago) and read 4927 times:



Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 18):
Fares on DLH-ORD start at $242. If year-round service to DLH doesn't work maybe summer only flights could work.

It will be interesting to see if Northwest undercuts them on that.



Duluth is a nice city, we even get 3 months without snow per year
User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 hours ago) and read 4905 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 16):
This is very interesting news, since Asheville Airport had been negotiating (pg 13, item C) - apparently in fairly advanced stages - to get Eagle flights to ORD starting next spring. Maybe United didn't want American hogging all the "new flights press" in Chicago this week and decided to get the jump on Eagle to Asheville?  

If they could have sealed the deal with Eagle, they'd have been part of Thursdays announcement.

I'm thinking that the AA announcements did have an influence on UA expediting this one though.


User currently offlineSkyGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 451 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 hours ago) and read 4734 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
ORD-AVL
UA6340 1410-1651 CRJ
UA6592 1900-2141 CRJ
AVL-ORD
UA6119 0630-0720 CRJ
UA6340 1720-1810 CRJ

Holy cow, this is better than Christmas!!! This means that I can really fly home now without having to juggle around with flying into GSP or negotiating AirTran through MCO!! I would rather spend the day going through ORD than flying to GSP direct and having to wait for someone to come pick me up. Also I know a few people that would rather fly out of AVL than have to drive down to GSP.

Now if only they would start up IAD-AVL, I'd be super thrilled and then some.



...Now they face an even greater danger...Tyrannousaurs in F-14's!!
User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4278 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 hours ago) and read 4664 times:

Huge fan of the DEN-MAF announcement. Thought either UA or F9, with Q400s, should have announced it long ago. Good job and good luck.

Texan



"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
User currently offlineSLUAviator From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 357 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 hour ago) and read 4234 times:

Pat, I can't wait till I end up in MAF on an overnight. And then I'll see if your excitement is worth it!


What do I know? I just fly 'em.......
User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4278 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 hour ago) and read 4162 times:



Quoting SLUAviator (Reply 23):
Pat, I can't wait till I end up in MAF on an overnight. And then I'll see if your excitement is worth it!

Well, Luke, I think it is good for the company, but as far as entertainment goes . . . um . . .

Maybe the Odessa Jackalopes are still around? But definitely go to Abuello's for dinner. Damn good Mexican food, and the avocado enchiladas are delicious. The Confederate Air Force Museum at MAF is definitely worth a visit as well. And after you spend 4-6 hours doing those things, well, you are on your own. The Petroleum Museum ain't all that great  Wink

Texan



"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
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