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Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 12  
User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 20190 times:

A thread for all issues related to aviation in Nigeria. Part 11 can no longer be accessed so here is Part 12.

The archives contain Parts 1 - 11.


Airlines currently active in Nigeria:

Aero Contractors - http://www.flyaero.com
Afrijet Airlines - http://www.flyafrijet.com - (Questionable right now)
Allied Airlines - http://www.alliedaircargo.com
Arik Air - http://www.arikair.com
Associated Airlines - http://www.flyassociated.com
Bellview Airlines - http://www.flybellviewair.com - (Questionable right now)
Capital Airlines - http://www.capitalairnigeria.com
Chanchangi Airlines - http://www.chanchangi.com
Dana Air - http://www.flydanaair.com
IRS Airlines - http://www.flyirsairlines.com
Kabo Air - http://www.kaboair.com
Nigerian Eagle Airlines - http://www.virginnigeria.com - Still using VK URL
Overland Airways - http://www.overland.aero
Virgin Nigeria - http://www.virginnigeria.com (Renamed Nigerian Eagle Airlines)

Announced airlines:

Air Midwest - http://www.airmidwestng.com
Red 1 Xpress - http://www.red1x.com - (Plans appear on hold now)


It seems Arik Air is about to be ejected forcefully today out of the older General Aviation Terminal (GAT) from which all domestic flights were operated. The GAT was handed over yesterday evening to the new operators, Bi-Courtney, which currently operates the new MMA2 terminal.


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I am not certain where all the Arik Air / BiCourtney animosity has come from. All we know is that BiCourtney never refunded a huge amount the airline paid as a deposit to have a huge check-in area reserved for the airline, before deciding not to move its operation to MMA2.

The airline has threatened last night to ground its internal flights as a result of this decision which it calls 'monopolistic'. I personally believe the government made the right decision in honoring its agreement with the private sector (Private-Public Partnership) and this will send a good signal to prospective investors who are lining up to bid for other airports in the country.

At this stage, I only question the logic of investing in this small shed (GAT) as opposed to expanding the current MMA2 terminal. Could the GAT accomodate Arik Air growth in the coming few years? I doubt so. For now Arik Air seems likely to move to MMA2 and continue to partially use the much-needed GAT tarmac space to park its growing fleet, with bus-transfer arrangement to move passengers to/from aircraft.




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User currently offlineSsublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 20145 times:

If I'm not mistaken, the current MD of Bi-Courtney (or maybe just MMA2) is the previous MD of Arik. I wouldn't be suprised if that is related.

Quoting AsoRock (Thread starter):
I am not certain where all the Arik Air / BiCourtney animosity has come from.

Unfortunately I think the govt. has made yet another mess of things. After Virgin Nigeria (at the time) it was only a matter of time before Arik.

Initially the plan was to move Arik to MMA2, however recent reports I've read now claim Arik will remain at GAT while Bi-Courtney will process it's passengers for them at GAT. This is also the arguement used by them(Bi-C) against reports of Arik building their own terminal, and as well as Lagos state building a second airport managed by the state at Lekki. Bi-Courtney is taking the angle that all domestic passengers will be processed by them regardless of if it's through MMA2 or GAT and I will only assume if it's through a second airport built by Lagos State as well.

If it is in Bi-Courtney's case to avert a shutdown of Arik. Without Ariks 50% market share, Bi-Courtney will struggle for revenue, both parties really need to come to an agreement.

Quoting AsoRock (Thread starter):
I personally believe the government made the right decision in honoring its agreement with the private sector (Private-Public Partnership) and this will send a good signal to prospective investors who are lining up to bid for other airports in the country.



User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 19970 times:

Here's the present colorful palette of Nigerian airlines! Depicted on the airlines' narrow-body and regional aircraft fleet, in order of market size starting with the largest carrier (Arik Air):


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And some other smaller carriers in no particular order:


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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19945 times:
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Thanks AsoRock (The nickname of Nigeria's White House or 10 Downing Street) for reactivating the Nigerian Aviation Thread. There is so much going on in Nigerian Aviation that this thread is an invaluable resource.

Quoting Ssublyme (Reply 1):
If I'm not mistaken, the current MD of Bi-Courtney (or maybe just MMA2) is the previous MD of Arik. I wouldn't be surprised if that is related.

He no longer runs MMA2. I was there on the 20th of August and asked for him. I was told that he is no longer with Bi-Courtney. I spoke to Dr Babalakin the owner of Bi-Courtney and was granted permission to take photos of MMA2.

Quoting Ssublyme (Reply 1):
Initially the plan was to move Arik to MMA2, however recent reports I've read now claim Arik will remain at GAT while Bi-Courtney will process it's passengers for them at GAT.

The fight between Bi-Courtney and Arik started when each one wanted to purchase each others land for expansion. Bi-Courtney wants to build three more MMA2 terminals while Arik wants to build a huge maintenance complex and an ultra modern terminal. Bi-Courtney had a closer relationship with the Obasanjo regime which created more confusion by throwing it's support to Arik later on after it became apparent that Virgin Nigeria under SRB/Virgin was going nowhere fast.

The current moves in handing over GAT to Bi-Courtney has to do with the current banking crisis. Oceanic Bank is a major financier of MMA2. With out the volume of revenue it expected as the sole provider of a domestic terminal, Bi-Courtney has barely been able to service it's Oceanic Bank loans. This situation is embarrassing to the Nigerian Government because it is now becoming apparent that many of the debtors to the 5 seized banks could not service their loans through Government actions or inactions.

It would be easier to break the agreements with Arik Air than those with Bi-Courtney. Both institutions are the pride of Nigeria and a compromise will be worked out soon. I believe that Bi-Courtney will leave Arik to continue to use GAT with Bi-Courtney as Landlord and that both of them will jointly build a modern terminal at GAT. The current MMA2 cannot handle Arik Air's operations let alone the operations of 9 other Nigerian domestic carriers.

Ken.



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19863 times:



Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 3):
I believe that Bi-Courtney will leave Arik to continue to use GAT with Bi-Courtney as Landlord and that both of them will jointly build a modern terminal at GAT.

Do you seriously think there's enough room around the existing GAT area for a new terminal of significant size (more than say 10 parking stands)? I doubt it. The way I see it, Arik had better move out its maintenance hangar project to Abuja, perhaps in partnership with Lufthansa. This would free up space near GAT for a significant new terminal with up to 20 stands, plus 10 remote ones.

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 3):

The current moves in handing over GAT to Bi-Courtney has to do with the current banking crisis. Oceanic Bank is a major financier of MMA2. With out the volume of revenue it expected as the sole provider of a domestic terminal, Bi-Courtney has barely been able to service it's Oceanic Bank loans. This situation is embarrassing to the Nigerian Government because it is now becoming apparent that many of the debtors to the 5 seized banks could not service their loans through Government actions or inactions.

I completely agree with your analysis. The issues are indeed interconnected and its foolish of the FG to let the Bi-Courtney investment go down the drain. That would tarnish the government's image and efforts towards privatizing infrastructure for higher efficiency.

Oceanic Bank seams to be very affected. Who imagined that their CEO Cecilia Ibru would end up in jail. The appointment of a new governor of CBN is a good start in sanitizing the Nigerian financial system (another topic) and that would have positive impact the Nigerian aviation industry. I think the key requisites are enhanced transparency, starting with the prv. sector and hopefully in the public sector very soon.

About Lekki Airport, I wonder why Bi-Courtney Consortium has remained silent on the subject, given the project is in contradiction with their BOT/concession project. Is it possible that it was actually Bi-Courtney who was agitating the local fishermen community in Lekki to sabotage the takeoff of Lekki airport project? Or is the Lagos State Governor playing it smart by pacifying, somehow, Bi-Courtney through other incentives?

Only time will tell. The Naija aviation scene is becoming a soap opera.

Happy landings.



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19829 times:
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Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 4):
Do you seriously think there's enough room around the existing GAT area for a new terminal of significant size (more than say 10 parking stands)?

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The area identified as GAT is actually larger than MMA 2, Arik Base and the Nigeria Air Force base combined. Most of GAT is still undeveloped and is a dumping ground for stored aircraft and houses basic aircraft maintenance facilities for Aero, Dornier/DANA, Associated, Bristow Helicopters, Overland Express, Julius Berger Aviation, PHCN and a host of private charter flight operators.



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 19775 times:

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 5):
The area identified as GAT is actually larger than MMA 2, Arik Base and the Nigeria Air Force base combined.

Thanks for the picture, but it's not evident. Plus the fact that GAT is mostly composed of private hangars/ramps will make it very complicated legally speaking to buy off all this area and consolidate it? How is FAAN in the picture, does it lease these ramps to these private owners?

Anybody with news about Overland Airways? They have stagnated around 3 destinations and 2 aircraft (1 x ATR, 1 x 1900D) since 2005. They were planning to add a 737 last year.

[Edited 2009-09-20 09:39:36]


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User currently offlineSsublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 19651 times:

Is there a blue print for LOS? Just wondering if these planned infrastructure improvements are part of an overall overhaul of the airport which I hope will incorporate airside transportation between all terminals (local and international).

User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19623 times:
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Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 6):
Thanks for the picture, but it's not evident.

See the area with the stored aircraft to the extreme left of photo. That together with the parking area for aircraft make up GAT. A modern terminal can be built there. Also the FAAN housing estate is sandwiched between the highway and GAT. All these would make for a huge terminal.

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 6):
How is FAAN in the picture, does it lease these ramps to these private owners?

FAAN is the landlord at Federally built and owned airports.



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User currently offlineAtpcliff From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19620 times:

Hi!

Just talked to an FAA guy, and he said Arik AIr was soon to start flying to the US.

cliff
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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 19471 times:

With what equipment will Arik Air operate to New York? They currently have 2 A340-500s both fully utilized on the Jo'burg and London routes. They last expressed interest in wet leasing A330s (ex Kingfisher).

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 8):
See the area with the stored aircraft to the extreme left of photo. That together with the parking area for aircraft make up GAT. A modern terminal can be built there. Also the FAAN housing estate is sandwiched between the highway and GAT. All these would make for a huge terminal.

Thanks Ken.



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 19283 times:

Here's a video interview with NEA CEO Capt. Dapo Olumide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXNwvIugFWo



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 19120 times:
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According to Arik Air website, Arik Air is moving it's LHR operations to Terminal 4 on November 11, 2009. It also has a new acting CEO - a Nigerian.


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8580 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 19083 times:
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Is Nigerian Eagle actually serious about their rebranding? One week after the announcement the website is still nearly 100% Virgin Nigeria branded ( apart from a link to the news release and a scrolling headline both referring to Nigerian Eagle) .


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User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19078 times:



Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 12):
According to Arik Air website, Arik Air is moving it's LHR operations to Terminal 4 on November 11, 2009.

So is Arik Air then going to link up with Skyteam?


User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 19058 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 13):
Is Nigerian Eagle actually serious about their rebranding? One week after the announcement the website is still nearly 100% Virgin Nigeria branded ( apart from a link to the news release and a scrolling headline both referring to Nigerian Eagle) .

I heard yesterday that NEA brand will officially be implemented on or before October 7th.
This be consistent with the July 7th deadline set by Virgin Group, such that VK would continue to pay the brand royalty (500,000 USD/monthly) until October 7th. This is just speculation though, connect the dots whichever you like! In the interview with the CEO (Dapo Olumide) he mentioned a new website will be up and running within 2 weeks from Sept.23.

Quoting KL577 (Reply 14):
So is Arik Air then going to link up with Skyteam?

Interesting, but I doubt it. Its African network is still very basic with around 5 destinations. Besides, real hub facilities in Lagos are still missing.

Welcome back KL577!



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User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 18930 times:



Quoting AsoRock (Thread starter):
Red 1 Xpress - http://www.red1x.com - (Plans appear on hold now)

Was going to take a huge loss anyway due to overcapacity



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User currently offlineSsublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18909 times:

Based on wiki Arik serves 30 destinations, 11 of them in Africa(not counting Nigerian destinations).

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 15):
Its African network is still very basic with around 5 destinations.



User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 18878 times:



Quoting Ssublyme (Reply 17):
Based on wiki Arik serves 30 destinations, 11 of them in Africa(not counting Nigerian destinations).

I meant the destinations reachable directly from Lagos hub. You included Niger domestic destinations!



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18865 times:
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Akwa Ibom International Airport, in South Eastern Nigeria was formally opened yesterday with the arrival of an Arik Air B737 which the article claimed was a brand new jet that has just been delivered. Originally planned as a cargo airport and as a base for the offshore oil industry, it is now being marketed as a base for MRO activities. The Airport is located at Uyo, the State Capital and is in between Port Harcourt and Calabar. All are along the South Atlantic coast.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=155343
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/09/2...ight-for-akwa-ibom-on-mro-airport/

Is anyone aware of any recent Boeing deliveries to Arik Air?

Asaba International Airport is 80% complete one and a half years after the project began. It took 9 years to complete Akwa Ibom International Airport.



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 18831 times:



Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 19):
Is anyone aware of any recent Boeing deliveries to Arik Air?

B737.800 5N-MJP about to be delivered. It was spotted recently doing some routine technical flights in Seattle.

Also, the 2 737-700s stored there since March ("Sultan of Sokoto" / "Oba of Lagos") were towed out, their engine/cockpit caps removed and washed.

Source for above info: flickr.com

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 19):
Asaba International Airport is 80% complete one and a half years after the project began. It took 9 years to complete Akwa Ibom International Airport.

This is an outstanding achievment, if the former has standard facilities (fire engines, perimeter fencing, etc.). I mean really remarkable for Nigerian standards, heck any standards. Do you know who the Project Managers / contractors were?

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 19):
The Airport is located at Uyo, the State Capital and is in between Port Harcourt and Calabar

This will undoubetdly canibalize a bit of Calabar traffic. I don't know the precise percentage of passengers ex. Calabar originating from Akwa Ibom but I read once it's significant and in the order of 10-20 %.



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User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18746 times:



Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 15):
Interesting, but I doubt it. Its African network is still very basic with around 5 destinations. Besides, real hub facilities in Lagos are still missing.

Still KQ and W3 might nicely complement eachother in covering Africa for Skyteam. And Nigeria is a market to watch for the alliances. If only to could repair that banking sector quickly  scratchchin  .

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 19):
Akwa Ibom International Airport, in South Eastern Nigeria was formally opened yesterday with the arrival of an Arik Air B737 which the article claimed was a brand new jet that has just been delivered.

But no indication of the start of scheduled services.

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 15):
Welcome back KL577!

Thanks! You have been away from this thread for some time as well! Speaking of which, where is ENU?


User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 18645 times:
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Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 20):
Do you know who the Project Managers / contractors were?

ULO Consortium. The same contractor that built Gombe and Jalingo Airports.



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User currently offlineThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 18635 times:



Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 15):

Interesting, but I doubt it. Its African network is still very basic with around 5 destinations. Besides, real hub facilities in Lagos are still missing.

You obviously don't know anything about W3...5 destinations??? honestly.....they weren't created a month ago...



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User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 18609 times:



Quoting ThegreatRDU (Reply 23):
You obviously don't know anything about W3...5 destinations??? honestly.....they weren't created a month ago...

Arik only has about 5 international (African) destinations ex-LOS, that's what Eurostar is saying.


25 EurostarVA : Try me. They fly to the following AFRICAN destinations direct from Lagos: Cotonou Accra Freetown Dakar Banjul Johannesburg TOTAL: 6 destinations I wa
26 ThegreatRDU : The domestic flights fly within AFRICA so state international then Anyone want to throw out a list of what you think would be upcoming future destina
27 Ssublyme : JFK I would like to see them expand some more in Africa, perhaps add an East African route, Addis Ababa or Nairobi.
28 EurostarVA : Well that was plain obvious. Going back to the topic - Arik Air admission into the ONE World or any other global alliance, would require Arik to laun
29 EurostarVA : Some minor news: Nigerian Eagle received 5N-VNE repainted in its new colors today, and sent Embaer 190 5N-VNI to Shannon for repainting. Aerocontracto
30 Beeweel15 : Is it safe to invest in African Aviation
31 Alibo5NGN : Asaba - December 2009. Inadequate capital, interference by Governments and lack of experienced management are the main problems confronting Airlines
32 EurostarVA : I totally agree with you on Aero, Fly540, and Precision Air, but somehow skeptical about NEA. We'll have to wait and see if the new CEO can turn arou
33 I380North : I agree. Not a good buiness move. They should have declared BK , wipe the slate clean, and start afresh. At least this way, their creditors can come
34 Alibo5NGN : When there is a vacuum, the fastest in terms of growth wins. Profitability will surely follow if you are the head honcho. It is not surprising that A
35 EurostarVA : The price point is just one aspect of the Arik operation...they incur a LOT more capital costs than Aero or NEA. (Training and buildings, new a/c pur
36 YVRLTN : 5N-VNH was sent today. Dornier Aviation have taken delivery of a former Air Alps Aviation Do328-110 5N-DOX today. It also seems 2x 73G's destined for
37 Beeweel15 : Great I will look into them.
38 Alibo5NGN : More problems for Chanchangi and IRS Airlines. Bi-Courtney which owns the domestic terminal charges airlines 1000 Naira ($6.50) in terminal fees per p
39 EurostarVA : Are you sure it's official? Because in their usual manner Bellview made some unfulfilled promises about 2 767-30ER for delivery on Sep. 22. Of course
40 Post contains links Ssublyme : Nigerian Eagle Airlines signs codeshare aggreement with Kenya Airways. Is this the first of it's kind in Nigeria? This looks to be good news as NEA lo
41 Alibo5NGN : Kenya Airways will be useful in the short term for connections to Asia. I still do not see any other value. I can't see any one in Nigeria flying to
42 AsoRock : The question is, since Ethiopian seems to have an equal Asian network coverage to KQ's, why did NEA decide to tie-up with Kenya Airways instead of Eth
43 AsoRock : According to Skyliner-aviation.de, a HiFly Airbus A330 has repositioned to Amsterdam on September 30 awaiting repainting. Could this be going to Arik
44 Alibo5NGN : I believe so. The A345 is inefficient on the LOS to Jo'burg route. There is been a lot of speculation that a A330 is best for the route. This will le
45 AsoRock : Actually Ken it's been later stated on the same website that the HiFly A330 is now going to the Belgian Air Force on a long-term lease (5 years or so
46 Post contains links Ssublyme : Better view of Nigerian Eagle Airlines livery: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QKKR8gYJ-C...Ao8/UgGjraZ30OI/s1600-h/5N-VNE.jpg
47 Post contains links AsoRock : Arik Air is now hiring a Fleet Project Manager for the B777 upcoming fleet of 5 777-300ER aircraft, deliveries slated to start in 2011. A step making
48 Post contains links and images PRM : and in better light: View Large View MediumPhoto © PRM
49 AsoRock : Beautiful shot To the best of my knowledge NEA does not operate scheduled flights to Freetown yet. Are you certain of the point of origin of this fli
50 PRM : Hmm! Asorock you are right, this was VK842 from Dakar. I'll correct the comment.... Cheers!
51 ETStar : Ethiopian has an Asian network coverage that is superior to KQ's. Middle East coverage complements that. I wondered about the same, perhaps it is ET'
52 Ssublyme : Anyone with info on how the ABV - JFK numbers look like? I'm definitely looking forward to W3 starting LOS - JFK in Nov as planned.
53 Post contains links Kiwiandrew : Does it seem weird to anyone else that nearly a month after the launch of "Nigerian Eagle" their website is still all in virgin branding ? http://www.
54 Post contains links AsoRock : Of course we all agree with your thoughts. It is almost embarrassing to have rebranded and have the website still convey the "Virgin Nigeria" brand t
55 EurostarVA : NEA suffered a major setback few days back. My sources in the ops department revealed that ERJ 5N-VNI suffered a birdstrike and is grounded. The airli
56 Post contains links and images Alibo5NGN : Does any one have any info on Air Midwest, a new Nigerian Airline? View Large View MediumPhoto © A J Best This aircraft will become 5N-PVA. Ken.
57 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : I just answered my own question by going to the Air Midwest website on the following link: http://www.airmidwestng.com/default.asp Cheers Ken.
58 AsoRock : This has got to be the ugliest eye-sore of an airline livery I've ever laid my eyes on !!! What were they thinking!!! Is the logo a flying guy wearin
59 KL577 : It vaguely reminds me of the Spaceworld livery.
60 ThegreatRDU : It is ugly no doubt...I have a question for you guys, is it just me or does the Nigerian Aviation market come across as saturated?
61 AsoRock : Actually it isn't technically, since prior to the global financial crisis Nigeria was experiencing good economic growth (> 5% yearly) and the market
62 AF022 : Is ARIK really going to start NYC service in November?
63 EurostarVA : Affirmative.
64 AF022 : Have they even posted schedules yet? Isn't November just around the corner?
65 777way : What aircraft are Saudia Cargo using on Lagos service?
66 Femialpha : 747. Saw one in Lagos recently.
67 Post contains links and images Alibo5NGN : 5N-VNH is back in Lagos. Outward bound! View Large View MediumPhoto © Javier Rodriguez - Iberian Spotters Homeward bound! View Large View Medium
68 AF022 : Just saw ARIK's website. They have NYC for November on their home page, but no information about schedules. Don't they need a little ramp-up time to m
69 AsoRock : I don't recall Arik had a long pre-op sales period prior to launching JNB. A week or so if I'm not mistaken. Since they will have a monopoly on this r
70 Viasa : Both MD-80s of Afrijet were returned to the USA (and to the lessor). It looks like Afrijet has suspendet its operation. Who can confirm this?
71 I380North : Did Ng get the FAA CAT1 certification? Is W3 using Hifly or their own crew for the LOS-JFK ? In my opinion, the 29 November first flight does not leav
72 Post contains links Impacto : Looks like Bellview are in some serious trouble. http://allafrica.com/stories/200910170010.html
73 EurostarVA : Confirmed. Afrijet's main financier Bank PHB is also in serious trouble and was recently taken over by the Nigerian government. I doubt Afrijet will
74 Ssublyme : Has 11/29 been announced as the start date for LOS-JFK? With regards to working out kinks in the system, I don't think it will be an issue. They won't
75 AsoRock : At least Arik Air has always met its start-up target dates on new routes. It's better to be on-time in launching a route on short notice rather than
76 A318 : HiFly is hiring flight attendants for the route via a recruiting agency. They will not be employed by Arik Air. They will be based in JFK. I heard th
77 Alibo5NGN : Best of luck. You are in good company. There are many West Indian pilots flying Dash 8s for Arik. When Nigeria Airways began to ail in the late 1980s
78 Flyibaby : I realize the notion that there is no direct competition on JFK-LOS, but surely DL having a hub in ATL and JFK and the obvious connecting opportuniti
79 Ssublyme : Wouldn't shock me if true. I wonder when Arik will launch a loyalty program? At some point I would expect they would have to to strenghten relationshi
80 Post contains links I380North : ARIK gets new MD http://www.arikair.com/arikair/racin...naging-Director&id_sessionlangue=2 Arik Air appoints a new Managing Director October 19th, 200
81 AsoRock : Arik's latest appointment is a step in the right direction as the airline continues with steady global expansion and prepares for its new Boeing long
82 Post contains links Ssublyme : Arik Air launches it's 31st destination in Illorin, Kwara: --- Arik Air announces services to Ilorin, Kwara State October 20th, 2009 Airline connects
83 Post contains links Ssublyme : Forgot to add South Africa's TIR magazine did a short review of Arik Air. For what it's worth, a favourable write-up of Arik as they were impressed sc
84 NA : What about Arik´s plans to buy three 747-8Is? Still alive? I think the world could do without Arik getting 777s, but some 748Is would be great indeed
85 Post contains links AsoRock : The 747-8Is are no longer being considered at Arik Air. You can see a 9 minute footage on YouTube of the inauguration day of Uyo Airport in Akwa Ibom
86 EurostarVA : Actually in the latest issue of AIRWAYS Magazine, the management of Arik Air do not deny their interest in the 747-8Is either but acknowledge an MOU
87 Alibo5NGN : This supports my May 2009 trip report. I would give Arik 97 instead of 93. Forgive me for my ignorance. But what do you mean by this.
88 EurostarVA : Sure, I also want to know what NA meant.
89 Post contains links and images Jana : The Nigerian Eagle logo has a lot BP (British Petroleum) 'logo-content'. Nice though... View Large View MediumPhoto © Javier Rodriguez - Iberian
90 Kiwiandrew : I cant believe that I hadnt noticed that before ... I guess it is appropriate for Nigeria .
91 777way : Emirates Cargo are resuming freighter service to Lagos with 744F.
92 BRJ : I have a question regarding Aero flight schedules and flight numbers. Just randomly looking at their schedules, and take Tuesday 11/3: From Amadeus -
93 AsoRock : Amadeus is probably out-dated. I recall Aero having suspended all international flights with the exception of Accra. I believe AJ website schedules a
94 I380North : With recent mgmt chances in Arik as in 3 top VK alumni taking up positions in W3, some thoughts floating in my head such as: 1. Is W3 about to swallow
95 Alibo5NGN : The ongoing crisis in Nigeria's banking sector has stopped VK's re branding process in it's tracks. VK has to be cautious with it's cash flow managem
96 YVRLTN : 737 8JE registration 5N-MJP for Arik departed BFI for SNN today. SV are replacing the 747 with A332 on the JED - KAN route from Jan 3rd.[Edited 2009-1
97 Alibo5NGN : Will be used along with 5N-MJO on Lagos to Jo'burg service. A330 will fly Abuja - London freeing up one A345 for the Lagos to New York route (Nov 29,
98 AsoRock : Ken, I doubt the 737-800 can compete against widebody aircraft deployed by South African Airways. It is probably a more profitable operation (737) co
99 EurostarVA : Any news about the new Asaba Airport? Progress photos anywhere?
100 Ssublyme : If I'm not mistaken, it is one Kingfisher didn't pick up. If so, it will be nice, keeping a consistent look across their widebodies.
101 I380North : Wow …going from a well appointed A345 to B738 is downgrade on the LOS-JNB route? W3 are cultivating a good reputation do not mess it up like VK. Gra
102 EurostarVA : According to inside sources, Virgin Nigeria/NEA 737 fleet is being repossessed by GECAS starting tomorrow. With the latest development, Virgin Nigeria
103 Post contains links and images Alibo5NGN : Work is almost complete on the runway and apron. Work is falling behind schedule on the main terminal and control tower as the glass facades are bein
104 EurostarVA : I don't see NEA surviving without a MAJOR injection of fresh equity (not debt). Adenuga or whoever will need to invest at least USD 50,000,000 to give
105 MIgAiR54 : Do you think they are serious??? I would like to talk to them, in the web they say that they need ATR pilots, I might be interested, have you got any
106 ThegreatRDU : To me Red1x seems doomed...I mean really.. "Now everyone 1 can fly"??? where have we heard that?
107 AsoRock : Well you'd be surprised. It seems this start-up purchased a majority shareholding in Capital Airlines, a regional EMB-120 operator. I guess they migh
108 USPIT10L : Can anyone tell me the codes for Gombe Airport and Katsina Airport? According to Wikipedia, they have no IATA three-letter codes. SkyTeam in W3's futu
109 Alibo5NGN : Gombe, Katsina, Jalingo, Uyo and Asaba airports are in the process of obtaining IATA and ICAO codes.
110 USPIT10L : How long does that take? Arik Air certainly has something going in Nigeria, the question is can they expand and stay in business at the same time.
111 I380North : W3 future looks better with *A or OneWorld *A: If I were LH, I will nuture, mentor and keep a eye at every W3 move. Appears both already have some MX
112 USPIT10L : That would be wonderful for Star, but KQ is aligned with SkyTeam, as would be AT, AH, and TU down the road. If Star wants to keep up their mantra of
113 Post contains links EurostarVA : UNITED Airlines has just announced Washington-Lagos flights. The flights will route through Accra, Ghana and will start in Spring season 2010. More at
114 Ssublyme : As I mentioned in the other thread, they too will soon realize as DL did that a 767 is probably not the right aircraft for that route. I can't imagin
115 EurostarVA :
116 Post contains images Alibo5NGN : Many Nigerians I met in my recent visit to Nigeria have expressed disappointment with the B752 equipment Delta is using to ABV and the technical stop
117 Flyibaby : I believe DL wanted to build the market first. They have already annouced a non-stop ABV to US flight with an upgrade to the 763. I would expect that
118 Post contains links Ssublyme : Aero has announced they will be launching flights for the first time to Northern Nigeria. The cities of Kaduna & Jos to be precise. I always wondered
119 Alibo5NGN : Not quite correct. Abuja is in Northern Nigeria.
120 Cubsrule : Is the disappointment with the equipment or with the stop? The 752s are generally a lot nicer than the 763s (and little worse than the 77Es).
121 EurostarVA : I thought Abuja was the geometrical centre of Nigeria, as chosen by the city's planners in the 1970s.
122 Alibo5NGN : It is still in Northern Nigeria. River Niger and River Benue divide Nigeria into 3 unequal parts and was used to create the original 3 regions - Nort
123 ThegreatRDU : Unbelievable!! DL got it wrong big time....typical I'm really not surprised here...
124 Alibo5NGN : Arik Air was officially granted all approvals to start JFK - LOS flights on November 09, 2009. According to my sources, they will start their first fl
125 EurostarVA : Wonderful. A question remains: Why haven't they made an announcement yet? Christmas is coming up, and a late market entry announcement is not smart.
126 Alibo5NGN : Expect announcements in the coming weeks. Many Nigerians in the New York area still use travel agents rather than book online in their quest for supe
127 Post contains links NA : Max Air´s latest Hadj-Express: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=&picid=6109 They have three 747-346s now although I´m not sure if a
128 Ssublyme : With a Nov 29, start date, announcements in the coming weeks is definitely pushing. Quite a different practice than what is typically seen in here. e
129 Alibo5NGN : I saw one of Max Air's B747s loading up mostly female Moslem Pilgrims belonging to a specific sect dressed in blue Hijabs at Abuja early in the morni
130 AsoRock : To me there's nothing soothing about the typeface. It looks more suitable when Dracula Air or Transylvania Air is shown on the fuselage! Look at it!
131 EurostarVA : Yeah along socialist theme too. But I think the colors have got more to do with the regional flags in Northern Nigeria and red and black do dominate.
132 Post contains links AsoRock : Arik Air finally announced first flights to New York from Lagos on Nov 29. This discussion has been posted as a seperate thread: Arik Air Launches New
133 AF022 : The schedules are good for passengers, but chew up an unbelievable amount of time for the aircraft. Yes, there is great potential for Arik here, but
134 AsoRock : Cabin crew costs are meagre, apparently Arik is not providing health insurance, housing or travel benefits to the American citizens who were eligible
135 ThegreatRDU : As noted earlier I'm a strong believer in W3 joining Oneworld, they are fledgling alliance looking for new members and they have yet to establish them
136 AF022 : I'm sure they are also paying a lot to lease the aircraft, and if the aircraft is dedicated solely to 3 weekly JFK-LOS roundtrips that is a big deal.
137 AsoRock : I see your point. Do you think a single aircraft could operate 4 weekly rotations instead? I believe they were tempted to offer a specific flight sch
138 MandingoBoy : The plane is ex-kingfisher and i believe they got it at a bargain basement price. The route may be a loss leader initially but eventually it will make
139 Ssublyme : The cost will have to be built in, because at 13hr per leg you'd need 2 planes to perform daily, with a shorter option inbetween if you want to incre
140 AF022 : I'm correcting my math. It should be $230 roundtrip. Its still extremely high, but not as ridiculously high as I wrote!
141 AsoRock : The bottom-line of all of this is that Arik is not looking for serious profit at this stage. Now they want to create a BANG effect, introduce their b
142 Post contains links and images Alibo5NGN : Christian Pilgrimage to Israel and Rome is gathering momentum in Nigeria. http://allafrica.com/stories/200910220448.html View Large View MediumPhoto &
143 AF022 : The article mentions that the trip time will be cut from 9 to 5 hours by using a direct flight, but how can a carrier fly direct LOS-TLV and avoid Ar
144 Alibo5NGN : By creating a Nigerian entity called TAT Nigeria they can fly over Arab countries. The routing will be Nigeria, Cameroon, Chad, Sudan, Egypt and Isra
145 AsoRock : Ken, Do you know if IRS is currently flying their Fokker 100 fleet? They seem to have gone bust following the debt settlement issues with Bi-Courtney.
146 AF022 : I'm surprised this is allowed. I once saw a map of ET's flights ADD-TLV and the aircraft had to fly straight up the Red Sea to avoid Sudanese airspac
147 Alibo5NGN : 5N-HIR was active when last I was at LOS which was on October 30th, 2009.
148 YVRLTN : This aircraft was photographed this week at BTS having mx done with OE.
149 EurostarVA : The BASA agreement with South Africa has been ratified and now allows 20 weekly flights between LOS and JNB, in addition to: Lagos-Cape Town route rig
150 Post contains links AF022 : I did a little more hunting and LY's website has actual routes flown by their aircraft. http://www.elal.co.il/NR/rdonlyres/A...worldmap_minisite_v17_
151 Alibo5NGN : Sudan has closer ties to Nigeria (religious and cultural) than South Africa and cannot afford to anger Nigeria. Chad depends upon Nigeria for imports
152 YVRLTN : My bad, meant OS Bellview have picked up a former GF 767 300 ER to restart flights to LHR - reg 5N-BVA named "Faith".
153 Alibo5NGN : You have to give Bellview credit for their tenacity and persistence. 5N-BFM "Fortitude" has been taken out of storage at GAT, fitted with replacement
154 AirGabon : Air Ivoire will start in December 3 weekly Abidjan-Lagos-Douala with B737-500
155 Alibo5NGN : The article below from today's Nigerian Vanguard newspaper speaks for itself. "US shelves rating for Nigeria’s aviation Nov 18, 2009 By Kenneth Ehig
156 Kiwiandrew : So I guess that knocks it on the head for Arik starting New York services later this month ?
157 Alibo5NGN : Wrong! HiFly of Portugal (CAT 1 country) flies Arik Air's A345 and Arik Air's International flights for Arik Air. November 29th is still the start da
158 Post contains links Ssublyme : W3 has just announced nonstop ABV - LHR with 738 starting Nov 26th. http://arikair.com/arikair/racine_si...London-Heathrow&id_sessionlangue=2
159 Post contains links Ssublyme : Arik will make quite a killing with their excess baggage allowances, especially with the Christmas period coming up. I guess this will make up for any
160 MHTripple7 : W3 needs to get their LOS-JFK-LOS flights loaded into the GDS! As of now the only place that suggests any flight exists is on Arik's website. And pass
161 Post contains links and images AsoRock : View Large View MediumPhoto © A J Best Brilliant! Only problem is that there does not appear to be any available connections from Nigerian state
162 EurostarVA : I wouldn't be surprised to see many pax sign on this option. Nigerians are natural entrepreneurs and Arik is clearly targetting traders/merchants.
163 EurostarVA : I don't know if it's wise or profitable of W3 to deploy 737-800 size aircraft to all of these destinations. Nigerians would perceive it as an inferio
164 Post contains links and images Alibo5NGN : You wanna bet? I invite you to visit JFK on the 29th and I will guarantee you that the cargo hold will be full. You have to know the Nigerian culture
165 AsoRock : Ken, I'd like to thank you for your wonderful and high-quality photographs! I must say I admire all your every-growing collection made available for e
166 Ssublyme : I expect that to show up shortly. When I browsed their site yesterday, the ABV - LHR direct flights weren't showing. Will be a sight to see regardles
167 Ssublyme : Forgot to add, the first 4 days for LOS - JFK apparently are already full as they are no longer bookable. I wish W3 all the best. Look forward to usin
168 Alibo5NGN : According to yesterdays Vanguard Newspaper, the bodies of the victims that died in the ill fated Beech 1900D that crashed near Vandekiya in Benue Stat
169 EurostarVA : Is Kabo the new operator of ex-IRS EMB.145 (owned by Bauchi state govt.) ??? skyliner-aviation.de says so.
170 Beeweel15 : IS there an office in New York for this airline.
171 Post contains links Ssublyme : I guess the debate now would be, "which alliance would they join"? http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/11/2...y-for-lagos-jo%E2%80%99burg-route/
172 Femialpha : I second that. I never seem to be that lucky when I'm in Nigeria! Femi
173 MandingoBoy : I totally agree. I have tried taking several shots and believe me they are no where like the ones Ken takes. True ambassador of the country.
174 Alibo5NGN : Thank you guys I appreciate your kind comments. Please let me know when you are in Lagos or Benin City. I can arrange for you to spot in these two loc
175 Alibo5NGN : March 2010 is now the estimated date for the start of operations at Asaba International Airport.
176 Ssublyme : Accidentally posted this in the Arik JFK thread. Arik has opened the following routes: Cotonou - Dakar - 2x Weekly Lagos - Dakar - (Non-stop, previous
177 AF022 : VK operates ABVDKR? Isn't it ACCDKR?
178 Ssublyme : Sorry, I meant ABV - ACC. Thanks for pointing it out.
179 Post contains links Dkny : Ethiopian and Nigerian Eagle sign code share agreement. http://allafrica.com/stories/200912010198.html "Nigerian Eagle Airlines (formerly Virgin Niger
180 AF022 : Isn't it unprofessional to just go in and copy what VK is doing? This reminds me of when NW went around crushing all competition at MSP. Surely there
181 AsoRock : Unprofessional is not the correct term here. The actual definition of this practice is "hostile practice to drive other airline(s) out of business by
182 Ssublyme : From an initial glance, I don't think competing on a route with a competitor is enough for any govt. to get involved. I guess it would depend on what
183 I380North : Arik will need a 5th freedom. I very much doubt W3 will get it. Flying A345 from JFK-IAH is bad use of an airplane. Keeping the A345 on the ground at
184 Dkny : Now that ET and Nigerean Eagle have a code share agreement, is there any chance ET would be allowed to fly LOS-US. ET can move ADD-FCO-IAD to ADD-LOS-
185 NA : Has anyone seen the pretty Kabo Air 742s lately?
186 MHTripple7 : I don't think this will happen as they would not be permitted to have any domestic traffic on this flight. Also, businessmen prefer nonstop flights a
187 Alibo5NGN : Of what benefit will this be for Nigeria and Nigerian Eagle? This code share is a desperation move by an Airline (NEA) that is in deep financial dist
188 Post contains links Ssublyme : The issue of not picking up domestic passengers is understood. However a couple benefits I can think of would be a shorter 'layover' if you will (for
189 Ssublyme : Latest addition to Arik's routemap is Uyo, Akwa Ibom State. Daily LOS/ABV - UYO. This brings to 20 the number of Nigerian destinations, 33 total.
190 EurostarVA : NEA recently dropped ASL for their catering and have commissioned their own inhouse kitchen. The MD disclosed to Flight International that they are a
191 Alibo5NGN : Any updates on Arik Air's new LOS - JFK - LOS service? Has anyone tried it yet?
192 AsoRock : Living in the NY area, we'd expect you Ken to be the first one to try it
193 Alibo5NGN : Thanks for the vote of confidence. Unfortunately, my trips are planned well in advance. My first opportunity to try the direct flight will be in Marc
194 Ssublyme : We might have alittle while longer to wait before an A.netter writes a trip report on it. Meanwhile, looks like premier passengers on the JFK - LOS r
195 USPIT10L : Any word on the IATA codes for Gombe and Katsina? Thanks in advance.
196 AsoRock : Nigerian Eagle Airlines appears to have suspended Calabar!! It's not showing in their timetable starting December 2009. Previously running on a daily
197 EurostarVA : A twice-weekly frequency will not fly with Nigerians, especially in the Calabar market. Imagine the constraints when booking a return ticket? Not a bu
198 AsoRock : Not sure this is a competitive proposition by KABO. First, a single aircraft operation (1 ERJ-145) could jeopardize flight punctuality in case of mai
199 Post contains links AsoRock : Ladies and gentlemen, Thank you for all your usual interest in the fledgling Nigerian commercial aviation scene ! This thread is now closed, the seque
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