Jiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (13 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
I found this news report about bmi/UA's new service to USA from Manchester.
United Airlines and British Midland (bmi british midland) today jointly announced the launch of daily nonstop service from Chicago's O'Hare International Airport and the first-ever nonstop flight from Washington Dulles International Airport to Manchester, U.K.
From Manchester, bmi british midland serves three cities in Scotland (Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen), and offers frequent service to London Heathrow.
The new flights, which will be operated by bmi british midland Airbus A330-200 aircraft configured for three classes of service, begin on May 12 from Washington and June 8 from Chicago, respectively.
The new service it will be in cooperation with Star Alliance partner, United. In addition to offering BD codeshare flights from 29 U.S cities, United will provide bmi british midland with ground handling and line maintenance support at its Chicago O'Hare and Washington Dulles hubs.
United and bmi british midland are offering special introductory economy-class fares as low as USD$399.00 from Chicago or Washington to Manchester, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen.
"This announcement marks nothing less than the beginning of a new era in transatlantic air travel," said Rohan Alce, bmi british midland's vice president-Americas. "With the introduction of these new flights from Chicago and Washington, D.C., business travelers in the U.S. will benefit from bmi british midland's unique service to Manchester and points beyond."
BD706 (UA4820) will depart ORD daily at 9:20PM and arrive in Manchester at 11:00AM the following day. The return flight, BD705 (UA4821), will depart Manchester at 3:25PM and arrive in Chicago at 5:55PM that afternoon.
BD702 (UA4854) will depart IAD six days each week (except Tuesdays) at 5:50PM and arrive in Manchester at 5:55AM the following day. The return flight, BD701 (UA4855), will depart Manchester six days each week at 12:40PM and arrive in Washington at 3:45PM that afternoon.
The first flight to Washington D.C. from Manchester was suppose to be launched on May 3. while Chicago
is May 28. Too bad they delayed the new service for 10 days.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1150 times:
Odd. It is not a great start for bmi british midland in the long-haul business if this date issue is true. I have been very impressed with the logical, conservative and effective manner in which BD has grown over the years, and also have found them a very pleasant airline to fly.
I have not heard anything about late deliveries of the A332s; wonder what the problem is.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1116 times:
Whatever. I wish BMI well. It is a good airline and has good service, but it is entering a crowded and very
competitive market, and let's face it, Manchester, even
if it is the UK's second or third biggest city, comes no
where near London in the number of passengers that
You just can't sell service to Heathrow via Manchester,
or via anywhere for that matter. I predict those A330's
will be sold to SAS or another airline and BMI will focus
on what it knows best, Europe and Intra-UK, within a
year or less.
Yak42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1083 times:
No I think this service will do well, it has been very carefully planned and well advertised. London is not the only destination in the UK and LHR will loose most of the through traffic it had with the overcrowding and good alternatives, putting things in perspective. Bmi has a good following and customer base and will almost certainly be sucsessful here.
PhilB From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1068 times:
Manchester is the world's 53 busiest airport - March 2001 figures. As I've stated many, many times before the population within a 75 mile radius is the same as that of 75 miles of London (1991 census) and there is a heavy technology, industry and finacial base that does not want to have to go through Heathrow, or worse, fly in the wrong direction to Amsterdam or Frankfurt to fly the Atlantic.
What may change things for bmi is the situation within the Star Alliance when (if) the United/US Airways deal goes through, given US Airways presence at MAN.
Englandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1066 times:
No offence, but this news is weeks old!
ContinentalEWR- I doubt they'd just give up all long haul flights, just because 2 routes weren't proffitable (hypothetically speaking)!
With the amount of money they've invested in their longhaul program, and the number of routes (many ex LHR) they have the rights to, they're hardly going to just stop at the first challenge. They'd just fly one of their other longhaul routes.
And more to the point, what's traffic to MAN being less than to LHR got to do with anything?! You're forgetting that MAN doesn't just serve northern England, but also the whole of Scotland, north Wales, and Northern Ireland when it comes to longhaul flights. Also given Aer Lingus' 'limited' route network, I bet MAN gets more than a few transfer pax from the ROI too. And ofcourse not everyone wants to fly to/from London!
Stop thinking like BA!
Jiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1033 times:
This is the follow-up news from Airlinersonline
BMI-British Midland (East Midlands) actually put their first Airbus A330-200 (G-WWBM) into revenue service on April 30 on the Manchester - London Heathrow route. It will go back to Airbus (Toulouse) for final preparations before going into service again on May 12 on the Manchester -Washington (Dulles) route as reported on May 12. Meanwhile, the second A330-200 (G-WWBD) is due from Airbus on May 4. It too will operate the Manchester - Heathrow flights on May 5-6. It will then go to SAS on lease in full Star Alliance colors. The third (G-WWBB) is due in June before it starts new service to Chicago (O'Hare).
So bmi is putting A330 on MAN-LHR instead for few days. But I think bmi's trans-atlantic route will be doing really well.