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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 11846 times:

Where does United have F/A bases these days? Which are most senior and most junior? Do they still have bases in Europe?

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User currently offlineHAMAD From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1159 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 11711 times:

i know that they have: SFO, BOS, DEN, LAX, IAD, ORD, FRA, and maybe LAS, i might be wrong, but have friends at UA. who told me about those.

any corrections or additions?



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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 11679 times:

Quoting HAMAD (Reply 1):
i know that they have: SFO, BOS, DEN, LAX, IAD, ORD, FRA, and maybe LAS, i might be wrong, but have friends at UA. who told me about those.

any corrections or additions?

DEN
SFO
ORD
LAX
IAD
BOS
LHR
HNL
DCA
NRT
SIN
TPE
JFK
SEA

I think that is all of them.

I am not sure about FRA and LAS.

[Edited 2009-09-22 20:47:14]


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 11663 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 2):
Quoting HAMAD (Reply 1):
i know that they have: SFO, BOS, DEN, LAX, IAD, ORD, FRA, and maybe LAS, i might be wrong, but have friends at UA. who told me about those.

any corrections or additions?

They also have LHR, HNL, DCA, NRT, SIN, TPE, JFK, SEA.
I am not sure about FRA and LAS.

I don't think they ever had a TPE F/A base...the BKK and SIN bases are closed at this point. The only overseas bases are NRT, HKG, LHR and FRA.



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User currently offlineCOUAFA From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 11589 times:

Our current F/A bases are:

ORD
SFO
IAD
DEN
LAX
SEA
BOS
JFK
LAS
HNL
LHR
FRA
NRT
HKG

We did use to have bases in TPE, CDG, SCL, PHL, EWR, MIA. We also had our two foreign domiciles in SIN/BKK but we were never allowed to fly out of these two because they were non-union.


User currently offlineAzncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11057 times:



Quoting COUAFA (Reply 4):
We also had our two foreign domiciles in SIN/BKK but we were never
allowed to fly out of these two because they were non-union.

Foreign? You mean regional? Foreign would includes FRA/HKG/LHR/NRT in the mix as well. I love the regional based crew. They were the one who set United's UP score higher than the AFA.


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3034 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10946 times:



Quoting COUAFA (Reply 4):
BOS
JFK
LAS

Why do BOS and LAS have FA bases?



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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10732 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 6):
Why do BOS and LAS have FA bases?

They have been bases for a while and just not closed yet



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User currently offlineCouafa From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10680 times:



Quoting Azncsa4qf744er (Reply 5):

Foreign? You mean regional? Foreign would includes FRA/HKG/LHR/NRT in the mix as well. I love the regional based crew. They were the one who set United's UP score higher than the AFA.


We actually called them Foreign Regionals.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10251 times:



Quoting COUAFA (Reply 4):
Our current F/A bases are:

Which are most popular/least popular, etc? Which has the most ex-Pan Am F/As?

Quoting COUAFA (Reply 4):
IAD

Isn't this one called DCA? Or did they change it?

Quoting COUAFA (Reply 4):
LHR
FRA
NRT
HKG

How many are based at these overseas stations? Are these Americans living abroad or locals who work for United? If the latter, how do they fit in seniority wise?

And I guess another question too...Do the LHR and FRA based F/As just fly trans-Atlantic flights, and then layover at IAD/ORD/SFO/LAX etc? Doesn't it make more sense to just use F/As from these bases that already exist?


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10192 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 7):
They have been bases for a while and just not closed yet

BOS has been pretty downsized for a while now and they just closed the MX base this past year. Any word as to what the status of the F/A base is?



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User currently offlineTU154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10184 times:

We have current f/a bases in:
BOS
JFK
IAD
ORD
DEN
SEA
LAS
SFO
LAX
HNL
FRA
NRT
HKG
Americans are based in all locations. Nationals were hired in FRA/NRT/HKG/ but are on the AFA-UA seniority list. Americans make up a large portion of foreign bases, very unique to UAL. BKK/SIN were considered foreign nationals and were not protected under the AFA-UA contract, and were furloughed before any AFA f/a was furloughed.

We used to have f/a based in CDG/SCL/TPE/MIA/EWR/PHL/CLE with AFA f/a's but those have been closed.

As far as most senior and junior....
HNL is by far the most senior followed by SEA and then the hubs. LAS is pretty senior. JFK and BOS are probably the most junior with reserve running about 12 years.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10180 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 9):
Are these Americans living abroad or locals who work for United? If the latter, how do they fit in seniority wise?

It's my understanding they are mostly foreign nationals. Some of the overseas bases may be carry-overs from when United acquired many of Pan Am's international operations. I do not think they are covered by the unions so they are on different pay scales etc. They are probably restricted as to which flights they operate - for example a London f/a cannot work a domestic flight within the USA.


User currently offlineTu154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10161 times:



Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 12):
It's my understanding they are mostly foreign nationals. Some of the overseas bases may be carry-overs from when United acquired many of Pan Am's international operations. I do not think they are covered by the unions so they are on different pay scales etc. They are probably restricted as to which flights they operate - for example a London f/a cannot work a domestic flight within the USA

No, only BKK/SIN were restricted and not covered under AFA. All other current foreign bases, FRA/LHR/AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG/NRT are staffed with AFA flight attendants and are not on different pay scales, rules etc.
Then only reason a LHR/FRA/NRT/AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG f/a cannot cover a domestic trip is due to the AFA CONTRACT STATING THAT ALL INTERNATIONL AND DOMESTIC TRIPS MUST REMAIN PURE. ALL f/a's based in LHR/FRA/NRT/AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG are able to operate domestic trips if internatonal and domestic patterns are merged, All current foreign based f/a's are AFA flight attendants flying under the AFA contract. A large number of those flights attendants are Americans and all United flight attendants may transfer to any current domicile, foreign or domestic.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10154 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 2):
SEA

I thought this was closed due to the downsizing of the station in SEA.  confused 



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User currently offlineTu154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10147 times:

No, SEA base is very much open and alive.


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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10147 times:

Thanks for the clarification Tu154.

User currently offlineTu154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10147 times:

I can give numbers of active f/a tomorrow if you wish. Much to tired and hitting the bed. Have to commute to FRA tomorrow!!


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10134 times:



Quoting Tu154 (Reply 15):
No, SEA base is very much open and alive.

Even with the less presence that UA has in SEA? It isn't a huge station for them anymore.



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User currently offlineTu154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9995 times:

Active f/a's domicile population:

BOS-286
ORD-2400
DEN-969
HNL-165
LAS-183
LAX-1280
JFK-633
SFO-2403
SEA-300
IAD-2247
FRA-261
HKG-345
LHR-515
NRT-403



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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9993 times:

CDG had a large population of former Pan Am European nationals. I flew with them several times after the closure announcement; it was a bittersweet end to many 30-40 something year flying careers.

LAS is a satellite of LAX (no supervisors, mailboxes or support staff) and served as a TED flying base. Now that Ted is dead...there is no telling what the future holds. I am 'assuming' the cost of hotel/transportation logistics for multiple crews are keeping it alive. As for SEA, i think the presence of 875 (SEA-NRT) is that domicile's lifeline. I also think BOS will remain a base (albeit small) as long as the transcons are in place...another factor is hotel costs in the area. As far as JFK...a number of 'JFK' base trips protect frequencies out of LGA.


User currently offlineTu154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9965 times:



Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 20):
CDG had a large population of former Pan Am European nationals

SFO also has a large population of former Pan Am flight attendants that came to UA with the Pacific routes. LHR is also has a number of former PA flight attendants.



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User currently offlineJoemac547 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9941 times:
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Quoting Tu154 (Reply 19):
Active f/a's domicile population:

BOS-286
ORD-2400
DEN-969
HNL-165
LAS-183
LAX-1280
JFK-633
SFO-2403
SEA-300
IAD-2247
FRA-261
HKG-345
LHR-515
NRT-403

Admittedly, I do not have any knowledge of how this all works, but it appears that SFO has the highest umber of F/A's but has fewer flights than say, ORD or DEN. How does that work, do the SFO F/A's simply fly less than their brethren at the larger hubs? Or does the higher degree of international flying at SFO require more F/A's?


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9900 times:



Quoting Joemac547 (Reply 22):
Or does the higher degree of international flying at SFO require more F/A's?

I assume this is the case. More heavies=more flight attendants per flight. Think of SFO-SYD: how many attendants are required to staff a 744 on a long flight each way, including extras?


User currently offlineFlyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9869 times:

I never knew they had so many FA bases! Has there ever been talk of having a pilot crew base at any international locations?


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25 N104UA : I believe 12 There was a 727 base at LHR when the flew 727s intra-europe before the Wall Fell
26 AirframeAS : Out of those numbers, how many of them are actually on reserve status vs. active status?
27 SurfandSnow : That depends on your idea of "less". SFO F/A might fly SFO-JFK-SFO, SFO-OGG-SFO, SFO-NRT-SFO, etc. They work a relatively long flight, and then eithe
28 RJpieces : Interesting....Are these Americans who switched to a foreign base once they got seniority, or long-term American ex-pats, or what? Do any commute in
29 N104UA : It is Hawaii DEN, ORD, LAX, SFO, IAD
30 Tu154 : Add SEA, JFK
31 Tommy767 : EWR closed late 2006, and I believe CDG/PHL were satellite bases for EWR...so that closed with EWR... MIA had to be earlier than EWR maybe like 2004-
32 L1011Lover : That's not 100% correct. Technically all AFA contract FA's can transfer to any UA domicile systemwide, but only if they are US citizens or green card
33 L1011Lover : I wouldn't bet on that... United FA's tend to retire rather late... lol... Iris Peterson is the best example... she was hired shortly after WWII and
34 Antonovman : I have often wondered about these F/A's. I lived in FRA for 10 years for worked at the airport including some time at PanAm . The IGS unit was more o
35 TFFIP : Is UA able to hire for the FRA base now or are they still looking for US based FAs to go to FRA?
36 L1011Lover : Well it was of course an American airline, a branch of Pan Am, headquartered in the US, all aircraft were US registered, and fully operating under US
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