Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 56 Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2171 times:
Bmi actually got close to operating it in the past but then got distracted by India instead.
As fr SAA I can't seeo them doing it in their current guise. Their focus is African points right now and they simply don't have the spare long haul aircraft to add in another point like MAN.
CPT would be a non-starter from SAA for sure, but JNB would work - But sadly MAN is not on their radar right now.
Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
Gardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2155 times:
Didn't they fly this route uptil the early 1990s? I remember seeing something like it in their timetable.
I could be wrong, but there was a twice weely B747 service, either via Paris or Zurich???
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7143 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2080 times:
Quoting Gardermoen (Reply 2): Didn't they fly this route uptil the early 1990s? I remember seeing something like it in their timetable.
I could be wrong, but there was a twice weely B747 service, either via Paris or Zurich???
SA228/229 via CDG around 1992. First service had around 20 pax inbound but around 120 outbound. It was initially weekly, scheduled for 742s but there was a phase of 743s being used. 2nd service was operated sporadically but MAN was pulled as soon as SA were given landing rights by numerous countries around 1994/1995.
Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3074 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2055 times:
At a quick guess....I'd doubt it. If they can't even manage Paris what hope does MAN have?
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7340 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2024 times:
Quoting Gardermoen (Reply 2): Didn't they fly this route uptil the early 1990s? I remember seeing something like it in their timetable.
I could be wrong, but there was a twice weely B747 service, either via Paris or Zurich
At one point I sawa weekly flight via Lisbon to Manchester.
ThegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2273 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1977 times:
Not as much pax but probably the route itself will stimulate traffic....plus SA has high overheads...especially on long haul flights...
CV990Coronado From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1937 times:
I flew SAA MAN JNB with a stopover in Paris in 1994 I thought Manchester airport was excellent especially in comparison to LHR.
As previously mentioned they are concentrating on Africa which has better yields and less competition. The only European routes are to the fellow star alliance gateways of FRA and MUC plus LHR.
The days of flying the flag where ever it was allowed to fly are long gone.
P.S I flew SAA JNBMUCJNB earlier this month the new JNB airport is excellent. MUC must be the best airport in Europe it even looks like an airport not a shopping mall.
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CV990Coronado From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1700 times:
SAA and Virgin have code shared on the CPT - LON - CPT route for more or less a year. It's unusual in the sense that they don't code share on the JNB-LON-JNB route and they aren't in the same alliance. SAA have a code share with QF and they aren't in the same alliance either. Virgin only fly on the Cape Town route between late October and mid April so this could be the reason as their JNB-LON-JNB operation is year round.
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Signol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 2948 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1617 times:
My inlaws flew CPT-MAN and return a few years ago on Globespan, a 767. It operated only a few times per week before stopping.
As for SAA doing JNB-MAN, I think it unlikely, the South African market in London is so much higher than anywhere else in the UK (and if you've ever been to Wimbledon you'll know why!)
A STN-JNB or STN-DUR (when they open the new airport) flight would be very nice for us though, as the inlaws live in DUR
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7143 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1549 times:
Quoting Signol (Reply 11): As for SAA doing JNB-MAN, I think it unlikely, the South African market in London is so much higher than anywhere else in the UK (and if you've ever been to Wimbledon you'll know why!)
Everywhere in the UK would suffer in comparison to London, no matter what the route. However, where the biggest market is leads to the greatest competition which leads to lower fares and unprofitable routes. Run it a couple of times a week (via another city if need be) and then see if the smaller profits away from LHR is better than the reducing profits out of LHR.
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