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Are Qantas The Sooks Of The Australian Skies  
User currently offlineHigh_flyr69 From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 510 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

It is made clear as crystal that Qantas can not handle pressure, as Australia's main airline that is appualing. Not only that, but making a sly deal with Impulse, relieving themselves (QANTAS) of this pressure by taking it all out on a successful interstate airline (IMPULSE) offering not so wealthy people a cheap way to visit places not previously possible due to the costs of the increased petrol prices and the higher than average fares from Qantas and Ansett
SO I ask is Qantas the bully of the Australian skies that can give but cannot take it back?

Thank you for your reply
regards high_flyr69

Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice Doggy' until you find the shot gun
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User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3215 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

I think QANTAS have a major duty to there shareholders to continue to make profits, so if a deal with Impulse allows this to happen then this is the best deal. Hopefully my Qantas shares will rise on this news.

Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineTrentis From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

i wouldn't disagree that they're bullying - but it's happened before with airlines like AA in the USA taking over smaller airlines, hasnt it?
i think it's just a part of the industry
like AN taking over aeropelican, skywest, kendell and hazelton.

btw, will the ACCC accept this deal for what it is?

User currently offlineV Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (15 years 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

A sly deal? All reports say that Gerry McGowan approached Qantas after one of his big overseas investors declined to supply further funds. I suggest you actually get some facts straight before posting such ill-informed comments.
McGowan himself stated at the news conferance that the fares they had been charging were un-sustainable. You dont seem to understand that any company, be it airlines or whatever will not survive if they charge below cost fares or prices.

User currently offlinePhileo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1973 times:

Just finished my Marketing management III lecturer. According to my lecturer, Impulse actually already broke and Qantas just take over the company. All those Franchise, Mergers, is just the cosmetic to make the deals sounds nice.

After all, all you could blame is, the Australia populations of 20 million is too small plus strong governemnt influenced in Qantas (Australia governement still have equity in Qantas after the 1995 privatisation).

Well, after all, thats what the local people said: Australian Owned, Australian Make.

For me:

Australian Owned, Australian Make and self-exploitations with high fares to the local people.

Who's the real loser? Australian.

User currently offlineBrenjoro_QF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

****Ansett Reaction***


>>>Ansett to challenge Qantas-Impulse merger <<<

Ansett has announced a challenge to the Qantas merger with Impulse Airlines.

The airline's chief, Gary Toomey, has accused Qantas of seeking to drive Ansett to the wall.


Australia's torrid airline war has claimed its first victim. Phillip Lasker reports.

Australia's competition watchdog says it may yet block Qantas' acquisition of Impulse Airlines. Michael Maher reports.

Ansett today launched the first stage of its comeback plan in the wake of the Easter grounding of its fleet of 767s.

The $30 million campaign is called, 'Absolutely', and also signifies a tougher approach in the market place.

Mr Toomey says the Qantas-Impulse deal will be challenged with the courts and regulators.


Meanwhile, the Federal Opposition leader, Kim Beazley, says the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) should approve the proposed merger of Impulse and Qantas airlines, as long as jobs and regional services are protected.

Mr Beazley says the problems faced by Impulse demonstrate the difficulties of sustaining four major airlines in Australia.

He says ACCC chairman, Allan Fels, should give careful consideration to the undertakings Qantas and Impulse are making on jobs and regional routes.

"We're entering into a period where jobs are difficult and saving jobs is absolutely critical," he said.

"I would hope that Allan Fels, as he looks at all these arrangements, and I don't know the intricacies of them, bears in mind jobs and services."


Shares in Qantas Airways have come back down to earth after surging yesterday on the announcement of the Impulse takeover deal.

After soaring 71 cents or 26 per cent yesterday, Qantas shares have fallen back 22 cents, or 6.5 per cent, this morning to $3.18.

Ansett's owner, Air New Zealand, is down four cents to $1.26.


Impulse Airline's public affairs manager Simon Westaway says the airline is confident the Qantas joint venture will be approved by the ACCC.

"We're putting forward a whole bunch of information that shows that it's in the right interest of this company," he said.

"It's in the right interest to ensure 1,000 direct and indirect personnel retain their jobs, it's in the right interest to ensure this company Impulse Arilines grows its aircraft fleet [and] supplies those aircraft to Qantas.

"I think that it's an important development for this company. It basically underpins and gives us a future and that's important."


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