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SA Airlink J41 Crash In Durban - Fatality  
User currently offlinePfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15959 times:

An SA Airlink J41 has crashed just after taking off from runway 06 out of Durban International. An inbound Comair flight has just reported the airframe, somewhat intact, next to Mondi Paper. Will post more info as soon as I get it...


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User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15969 times:

It's crashed in a school property. Four people have been critically injured, no fatalities according to the radio news.

www.ewn.co.za will probably have something up later.

[Edited 2009-09-24 00:05:53]


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User currently offlinePfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15962 times:

Yes, ground handlers at Durban are saying that it was a Ferry flight. Thank goodness today is a public holiday in South Africa... Can you imagine what would have happened if it crashed into the playground at 8am on a school day...


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User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15930 times:



Quoting Pfletch1228 (Reply 2):
Yes, ground handlers at Durban are saying that it was a Ferry flight. Thank goodness today is a public holiday in South Africa... Can you imagine what would have happened if it crashed into the playground at 8am on a school day...

It would have been terrible. Ferry flight or post-maintenance flight? Four persons onboard seems high for a ferry flight, unless it's repositioning with cabin crew.



I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlinePfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15892 times:

It was apparently repositioning to Pietermaritzburg. 4 crew does seem high. The J41 normally has 2 Flight Deck and 1 cabin. Apparently the SA Express flight lined up behind them tried to warn them to abort take off because of excessice smoke from an engine, but their transmission didn't get through..


War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left.
User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15736 times:

Three crew and possibly two other people onboard. Three critically injured still trapped in the wreckage as of 10:00 AM South African time.


I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15645 times:
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Disturbing news indeed! I'm thankful that there are no loss of life.

Here is a link to an article on IOL news (and two photos):

SA Airlink Crash in DUR


Rgds

SA7700



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User currently offlineBlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15523 times:

LINK to pictures on flyafrica.info.

Could have been a lot worse.


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15398 times:

Thank God that today is a public holiday and let's hope that the critically injured crew make it. Well done to the pilots for their excellent skills in navigating the plane away from houses.


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15369 times:

All the best to the crew in their recovery but I mean nice timing guys. Tomorrow is my first flight on a J41!

I should have booked the train...



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlinePfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15090 times:

Here are some pics :

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthA...1-53/Ndebele_sends_recovery_wishes

From these pics, it looks like the blades were unfeathered on the engine that failed... That might explain why it went down. They were dragging an unfeathered engine...

Capt was seriously injured (had to be cut out with the "jaws of life" usually used at Motor Vehicle accidents), FO moderately injured, Hosty moderately injured, and one muncipal worker on the ground moderately injured. All have been airlifted to St Augustines Hospital.

As luck would have it, the commissioner of the CAA arrived in DBN early this morning for a Department of Transport conference at the Elangeni hotel. All the senior echelons of the CAA are at the same conference. Bet they will be swamping the site very quickly...



War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left.
User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15029 times:



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 9):
All the best to the crew in their recovery but I mean nice timing guys. Tomorrow is my first flight on a J41!

I should have booked the train...

You'll have to be quick to get to South Africa by tomorrow!


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14917 times:



Quoting Candid76 (Reply 11):
You'll have to be quick to get to South Africa by tomorrow!

Concorde is still in service right?



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlinePackcheer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14407 times:

"It seems like he took off and something must have happened, forcing him to come down again,"

You have to love local resident quotes....



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User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13817 times:



Quoting Pfletch1228 (Reply 4):
Apparently the SA Express flight lined up behind them tried to warn them to abort take off because of excessice smoke from an engine, but their transmission didn't get through..

Maybe they got caught up and didn't maintain Vyse to a safe altitude.



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3820 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13445 times:



Quoting Pfletch1228 (Reply 10):
Here are some pics :

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthA...ishes

Did anybody notice this unfortunate coincidence:



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8996 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13416 times:
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And a.net has some pics of it in the database now as well:


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Photo © Brian Spurr



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7752 times:
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Here's a link to the press releases from the airline:

http://www.saairlink.co.za/emergency.php



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineJett From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7427 times:

Just drove past there this morning, plane all cordoned off, with police securing the area preventing people from getting too close.

User currently offlineFca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1752 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7345 times:

Can't believe I didn't hear about this...Only saw it from the picture on the home page...took me a while to find this thread too...no news in england...are they getting better

User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6900 times:



Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 15):
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Serious side of the story aside,that has to be one most humorous images from the Internet that can unfortunately happen. Best wishes for a speedy recovery to those on-board. Had a chance to fly them once JNB PZB on one of their J41's.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6405 times:
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Yesterday's paper said that they are now looking at the pilot's role in the accident. This is his second crash, the first being an Islander in 2005.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...&art_id=vn20090929035923338C821261



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6312 times:

Last time I flew SA Airlink J41 we were in such a strong turbulence that everyone was praying and crew had to apologise after the flight.

User currently offline727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 793 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6197 times:



Quoting Andz (Reply 21):
Yesterday's paper said that they are now looking at the pilot's role in the accident. This is his second crash, the first being an Islander in 2005.

Very interesting. In his 2005 accident, it was ruled as pilot error due partly to not activating the carb heat when needed.

I tend to agree with the company line in that a J41 with an engine out should fly on one engine. With only the crew on board it should climb quite well. From the pictures it certainly appears that at impact the left engine was not making power while the right engine was. This rules out feathering the wrong engine unless the right engine was the sick engine, making only partial power, and the left engine was wrongly feathered. The FDR will answer these questions.

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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5842 times:
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Some sad news this morning, the Captain passed away in hospital in the early hours.

RIP

http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/article140878.ece#



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
25 SAA747B : Sad news indeed. Our condolences to the family.
26 SA7700 : My prayers to the family... May the pilot RIP. SA7700
27 JoKeR : Very, very sad, RIP
28 SAA380 : That's really sad to hear.. My condolences to the family involved. SAA380
29 DocLightning : Teach me how you draw that conclusion.
30 CheetahC : The LHS engine wasn't turning, the prop isn't bent backwards as it would have been if it was rotating. May the pilot rest in peace, condolences to hi
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