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SA Airlink J41 Crash In Durban - Fatality

Pfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 171 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14882 times:

An SA Airlink J41 has crashed just after taking off from runway 06 out of Durban International. An inbound Comair flight has just reported the airframe, somewhat intact, next to Mondi Paper. Will post more info as soon as I get it...

War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left.

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Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14892 times:

It's crashed in a school property. Four people have been critically injured, no fatalities according to the radio news.

www.ewn.co.za will probably have something up later.

[Edited 2009-09-24 00:05:53]

I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!

Pfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14885 times:

Yes, ground handlers at Durban are saying that it was a Ferry flight. Thank goodness today is a public holiday in South Africa... Can you imagine what would have happened if it crashed into the playground at 8am on a school day...

War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left.

Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14853 times:

Quoting Pfletch1228 (Reply 2):
Yes, ground handlers at Durban are saying that it was a Ferry flight. Thank goodness today is a public holiday in South Africa... Can you imagine what would have happened if it crashed into the playground at 8am on a school day...

It would have been terrible. Ferry flight or post-maintenance flight? Four persons onboard seems high for a ferry flight, unless it's repositioning with cabin crew.

I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!

Pfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 14815 times:

It was apparently repositioning to Pietermaritzburg. 4 crew does seem high. The J41 normally has 2 Flight Deck and 1 cabin. Apparently the SA Express flight lined up behind them tried to warn them to abort take off because of excessice smoke from an engine, but their transmission didn't get through..

War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left.

Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1453 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 14659 times:

Three crew and possibly two other people onboard. Three critically injured still trapped in the wreckage as of 10:00 AM South African time.

I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!

SA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 2916 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 14568 times:

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Disturbing news indeed! I'm thankful that there are no loss of life.

Here is a link to an article on IOL news (and two photos):

SA Airlink Crash in DUR

Rgds

SA7700

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BlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 14446 times:

LINK to pictures on flyafrica.info.

Could have been a lot worse.

JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2155 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 14321 times:

Thank God that today is a public holiday and let's hope that the critically injured crew make it. Well done to the pilots for their excellent skills in navigating the plane away from houses.

Kafa, čaj, šraf?

Myt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 14292 times:

All the best to the crew in their recovery but I mean nice timing guys. Tomorrow is my first flight on a J41!

I should have booked the train...

One Life, Live it.

Pfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14013 times:

Here are some pics :

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthA...1-53/Ndebele_sends_recovery_wishes

From these pics, it looks like the blades were unfeathered on the engine that failed... That might explain why it went down. They were dragging an unfeathered engine...

Capt was seriously injured (had to be cut out with the "jaws of life" usually used at Motor Vehicle accidents), FO moderately injured, Hosty moderately injured, and one muncipal worker on the ground moderately injured. All have been airlifted to St Augustines Hospital.

As luck would have it, the commissioner of the CAA arrived in DBN early this morning for a Department of Transport conference at the Elangeni hotel. All the senior echelons of the CAA are at the same conference. Bet they will be swamping the site very quickly...

War does not determine who is right. War determines who is left.

Candid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 711 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13952 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 9):
All the best to the crew in their recovery but I mean nice timing guys. Tomorrow is my first flight on a J41!

I should have booked the train...

You'll have to be quick to get to South Africa by tomorrow!

Myt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 13840 times:

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 11):
You'll have to be quick to get to South Africa by tomorrow!

Concorde is still in service right?

One Life, Live it.

Packcheer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13330 times:

"It seems like he took off and something must have happened, forcing him to come down again,"

You have to love local resident quotes....

Things that fly, Girls and Planes...

YWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12740 times:

Quoting Pfletch1228 (Reply 4):
Apparently the SA Express flight lined up behind them tried to warn them to abort take off because of excessice smoke from an engine, but their transmission didn't get through..

Maybe they got caught up and didn't maintain Vyse to a safe altitude.

Contact Winnipeg center now on 134.4, good day.

Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3573 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12368 times:

Quoting Pfletch1228 (Reply 10):
Here are some pics :

http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthA...ishes

Did anybody notice this unfortunate coincidence:

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WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8481 posts, RR: 78
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12339 times:

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And a.net has some pics of it in the database now as well:

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Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8298 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6675 times:

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Here's a link to the press releases from the airline:

http://www.saairlink.co.za/emergency.php

After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...

Jett From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6350 times:

Just drove past there this morning, plane all cordoned off, with police securing the area preventing people from getting too close.

Fca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6268 times:

Can't believe I didn't hear about this...Only saw it from the picture on the home page...took me a while to find this thread too...no news in england...are they getting better

9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5823 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 15):
(Online advertising FAIL)

Serious side of the story aside,that has to be one most humorous images from the Internet that can unfortunately happen. Best wishes for a speedy recovery to those on-board. Had a chance to fly them once JNB PZB on one of their J41's.

Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8298 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

Yesterday's paper said that they are now looking at the pilot's role in the accident. This is his second crash, the first being an Islander in 2005.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...&art_id=vn20090929035923338C821261

After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...

AlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1791 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5235 times:

Last time I flew SA Airlink J41 we were in such a strong turbulence that everyone was praying and crew had to apologise after the flight.

727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 783 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

Quoting Andz (Reply 21):
Yesterday's paper said that they are now looking at the pilot's role in the accident. This is his second crash, the first being an Islander in 2005.

Very interesting. In his 2005 accident, it was ruled as pilot error due partly to not activating the carb heat when needed.

I tend to agree with the company line in that a J41 with an engine out should fly on one engine. With only the crew on board it should climb quite well. From the pictures it certainly appears that at impact the left engine was not making power while the right engine was. This rules out feathering the wrong engine unless the right engine was the sick engine, making only partial power, and the left engine was wrongly feathered. The FDR will answer these questions.

727forever

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Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8298 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

Some sad news this morning, the Captain passed away in hospital in the early hours.

RIP

http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/article140878.ece#

After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...

25 SAA747B: Sad news indeed. Our condolences to the family.

26 SA7700: My prayers to the family... May the pilot RIP. SA7700

27 JoKeR: Very, very sad, RIP

28 SAA380: That's really sad to hear.. My condolences to the family involved. SAA380

29 DocLightning: Teach me how you draw that conclusion.

30 CheetahC: The LHS engine wasn't turning, the prop isn't bent backwards as it would have been if it was rotating. May the pilot rest in peace, condolences to hi

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