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Pinnacle Pilots Reject New Contract Agreement  
User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4288 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...vote-turn-down-contract-agreement/

It has not been a good few months for management there. Now this contract goes back to the table, and given the scrutiny the regional carriers are under from congress, I think ALPA has some bargaining power here.

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User currently offlineRidgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2813 times:



Quoting Apodino (Thread starter):
It has not been a good few months for management there. Now this contract goes back to the table, and given the scrutiny the regional carriers are under from congress, I think ALPA has some bargaining power here.

No it has not been a good year for them. Mesaba has become the golden child at Delta, and Pinnacle is quickly becoming the Orphan.


User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3955 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

Good for the 9E pilots... the toilet paper I used this morning has more value than that garbage TA.

Ridgid727 - how is Mesaba the golden child? They diverted 10 CRJ900s away from Mesaba and is returning 23 (so far) of our 49 saabs to the leasing company. We're laying off pilots and going back into doom and gloom mode. Hardly golden child status.


User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3391 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Good for the 9E pilots! I'm sure Uncle Phil is displeased...

Now how long until someone starts talking about how they should "feel lucky to have a job," or something similar?  Yeah sure



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

Good for them. Their contract became ammendable in May of 2005 and this is the best they could offer.

Talking to some of my friendes there, it was basically a step backwards. A little pay raise, but cuts in other benefits and worse work rules. Especially true in the reserve area.


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3594 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

There is just too much regional carrier supply. Either a few of them need to go, or all of them must shrink in order for supply to equal demand. I don't know the proposed contract details, but apparently the situation is untenable for both mangaement and labor.

Something needs to break instead of the continual race to the bottom, with the majors playing the regionals off each other for unsustainable rates.


User currently offlineRidgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2528 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 5):
There is just too much regional carrier supply. Either a few of them need to go, or all of them must shrink in order for supply to equal demand. I don't know the proposed contract details, but apparently the situation is untenable for both mangaement and labor.

Something needs to break instead of the continual race to the bottom, with the majors playing the regionals off each other for unsustainable rates.

I would agree with you on this. There is way too much supply out there.
While I understand the pilots have been working w/o a decent contract for quite sometime, hopefully the mediation board can bring Pinnacle to its senses. If that does not happen, I do feel this will be the begginning of the end at Pinnacle---Delta has just too many options to play regionals against each other.


User currently offlineSilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2128 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2517 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 5):
There is just too much regional carrier supply. Either a few of them need to go, or all of them must shrink in order for supply to equal demand.

Just wait and see where we are in three years. Age 65 is not too far away for a lot of mainline pilots.


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