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Map Suggests that AA Takes Over All Of L At ORD  
User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3755 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8809 times:

We knew it was going to hAAppen, with the 50+ new flights into ORD.

Look at AA.com's map of O'Hare, found here: http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/whereWeFly/terminals/terminal_ORD.jsp You'll notice a slight change on the L concourse gate numbers: L1A/B, L3, L5, L7, and L9 are now AA gates (they were blank spots on the AA ORD map before).

Now, where's that third Admirals Club at ORD? It did turn 70, after all...

[Edited 2009-09-27 11:02:26]

[Edited 2009-09-27 11:02:56]


"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
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User currently offlineTimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8762 times:

Interesting find! It is also interesting that on that map they list EL AL, EL AL hasn't served ORD for several years now. Or could that be an indication that EL AL will be returning???


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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8755 times:

If that is new, i'm not sure you mean what you think it means. AA has been using some of those gates that are new.

[Edited 2009-09-27 11:14:30]


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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8741 times:



Quoting FWAERJ (Thread starter):
We knew it was going to hAAppen, with the 50+ new flights into ORD.

I don't think we did considering they don't need any more mainline gates. Almost all the new flights are MQ and next summer there will only be 173 mainline flights which I believe is down from this summer. Right now gates K1-4 are closed and they seem to be doing fine. I guess it's possible they could turn more H gates into Eagle gates but this move is more about keeping VX out than actually needing the gates.



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User currently offlineFlymix From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8707 times:

Rumor is that the L gates will be for RP.

User currently offlineSeatback From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8674 times:

I'm not sure I would use AA's terminal maps as the "confirmed" announcement. If we do, then we have to assume AA has more than 80 gates at Heathrow.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/whereWeFly/terminals/terminal_LHR.jsp


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3755 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8651 times:



Quoting Flymix (Reply 4):

Rumor is that the L gates will be for RP.

Will the 3 widebody-capable gates on L (L5, L7, L9) that AA is acquiring be reconfigured and split into smaller gates then for RP/AmericanConnection's ERJs? L7/L9 can handle a 747, and L5 can handle a 767... I could see the gates split into L5A/B, L7A/B, and L9A/B/C.

And how many planes is RP flying out of ORD... are they moving the entire STL operation to ORD, or just part of it?



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineFlyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 8590 times:

I think the thread title is a bit misleading.. AA has made NO announcement regarding additional gates on the L concourse. I, too, doubt AA would use an airport diagram as such an announcement.

AA ORD


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23027 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 8511 times:



Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 6):
And how many planes is RP flying out of ORD... are they moving the entire STL operation to ORD, or just part of it?

13 frames; the whole (remaining) STL operation.



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 8439 times:



Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 6):
Will the 3 widebody-capable gates on L (L5, L7, L9) that AA is acquiring be reconfigured and split into smaller gates then for RP/AmericanConnection's ERJs? L7/L9 can handle a 747, and L5 can handle a 767... I could see the gates split into L5A/B, L7A/B, and L9A/B/C.

Are you sure about the widebody capability? I thought only L9 could handle widebodies. I'm almost sure L7 can't take a 747.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23027 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 8420 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 9):
I thought only L9 could handle widebodies. I'm almost sure L7 can't take a 747.

7,9, and 10 are definitely capable of handling most widebodies; IIRC 5 can take a 762. I'm not sure whether it can take a 763.



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 8284 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 10):
7,9, and 10 are definitely capable of handling most widebodies; IIRC 5 can take a 762. I'm not sure whether it can take a 763.

Well using google earth (which obviously isn't up to date but I don't think DL has done any reconfiguring) it shows L5 with a gate box width (right term?) of only about 130 feet, L7 with only about 120 feet, and L9 with about 180 feet. Unless you can overlap wings or DL did reconfigure the gates as of right now I don't think L5 or 7 can handle widebodies.

Also I was at L within the past year and have a picture of an MD90 at L5 or L7 and I didn't see how a widebody would fit.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23027 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (4 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 8216 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 11):
Unless you can overlap wings or DL did reconfigure the gates as of right now I don't think L5 or 7 can handle widebodies.

When they had the 762 RON, they definitely parked it at 5 some night; I have no idea what reconfiguring (if any) they've done in the past couple of years. If they are going to give 3 to RP, though, that could help them get something larger in 5.



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (4 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 8183 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):
When they had the 762 RON, they definitely parked it at 5 some night; I have no idea what reconfiguring (if any) they've done in the past couple of years. If they are going to give 3 to RP, though, that could help them get something larger in 5.

Ok. I've actually seen AA overlap 763 wings with M80 wings in concourse K so they could have 767s one at a time mixed with M80s but I don't think L5 and L7 can have 767s at the same time. L9 can handle 763s all the time but I don't know about 777s.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23027 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (4 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 8162 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 13):
but I don't think L5 and L7 can have 767s at the same time

I believe that is correct. They usually had an M80 or M90 on 7 when they had the 762 on 5.



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User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 7757 times:

Does this mean AS will still keep gate L2B?

User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1542 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (4 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 7643 times:



Quoting UAL757 (Reply 15):
Does this mean AS will still keep gate L2B?

Yes that gate isn't changing hands.



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User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (4 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 7643 times:

The map forgot about the most stupidest jetbridge -- L2A, so long and whoever built it wasnt thinking. They coulda shortened it a little bit. It is interesting reading the delay reports from aircraft that leave from L2A " We could of left on time but the jetbridge was long and passengers were backed up on the bridge, we also had 3 wheelchair preboards too which also slowed the boarding process." Yes we hate going to L2A with wheelchairs as well as G side. Why didnt someone build a bridge from H side to G side or K to L without having to go all the way up and go left or right. Such a pain in the ass. Not to mention the signs are outdated. They need to be re-made!

Leo



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User currently offlineNomorerjs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 7643 times:

Back in the good old days before T5 when international flights had to park on the ramp and bus passengers to/from the standing area, SR, JL and others used L for departures.

As mentioned above, there are several wide-body capable gates that will be used for various routes.

Also, this will keep VX out of ORD for the some time. There is no where for VX to go except for T5 and they won't pay the price for those gates. No way T1, T2, or T3 will open up for them.

Regarding AS, AA will let them have gates in L.


User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2356 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (4 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 7293 times:

Regarding the thread title, I sure hope this isn't the case. The L section is a pretty nice wing of the terminal. It's an added bonus to the DL MD-90 out of ORD.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 6):
And how many planes is RP flying out of ORD... are they moving the entire STL operation to ORD, or just part of it?

13 frames; the whole (remaining) STL operation.

What equipment type(s) does this number comprise of?



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23027 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (4 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 7189 times:



Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 19):
What equipment type(s) does this number comprise of?

All 140s.

Quoting Nomorerjs (Reply 18):
Regarding AS, AA will let them have gates in L.

Isn't AA the (sub)lessor of the gate? It doesn't make a huge difference; I'm just curious.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2307 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (4 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 7089 times:

do we know what cities are getting American Connection service?

User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 12 months 13 hours ago) and read 6068 times:

Considering that AA reduced Eagle flying out of ORD, why does everyone thing Eagle needs more gates? AA/Eagle still will be short of the amount of flying they had before the FAA started to limit hourly operations to cut the delays.

Also, looking at the thread on new AA routes, the new routes out of ORD have a total of 27 flights. Of those 27 flights, 3 are mainline (ANC, HNL, YVR).

That leaves 30 new flights on current routes. We know that 3 of those are Eagle to PIT. But does anyone know what the other 27 are? Considering that AA is running full flights on a lot of mainline-only routes with only 4 or 5 departures, those routes seem to be candidates for 1 additional mainline departure.


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 5797 times:



Quoting Seatback (Reply 5):
I'm not sure I would use AA's terminal maps as the "confirmed" announcement. If we do, then we have to assume AA has more than 80 gates at Heathrow.



Quoting Timberwolf24 (Reply 1):
Interesting find! It is also interesting that on that map they list EL AL, EL AL hasn't served ORD for several years now. Or could that be an indication that EL AL will be returning???

Yeah. MIAs map still shows Concourse C and lists EL AL as being present at MIA as well.


User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

The map is wrong there are no more H13/K6A/K6B/K14.. They are missing H5 K3 K1 L2A so I wouldnt take it as offical yet that map is old real old they have not used K6A/K6B in years

25 TinPusher007 : Here's a question I have. Do UA and AA use the int'l terminal for overseas flights or their own terminals. Ive seen some heavies at their own gates an
26 Ripcordd : They just use IT5 for arrivals and then tow the planes over to their terminals. Since IT5 has the only place for customs
27 DFWEagle : Do you know if K17 or K20 are still in use? K20 seems to have gone from AA's terminal map but is still on the map on the O'Hare site. K17 is on both
28 Ripcordd : K20 has not been used in a long long time but he can be put back into service pretty fast if need be. K17 has been shut down because of Iberia mostly
29 Hpaeaa : AA and UA use IT5 for INTL arrivals (due to FIS) however the departures occur from their own terminals.
30 Mcmax : Just flew a lot of AA flights on Saturday and Sunday, and was looking at the terminal maps in the most recent copy of American Way. The odd-numbered g
31 Intermodal64 : I seem to recall L10's departing from L10.
32 Lfutia : We once used K20 to put wheelchairs in them until AA told us not to anymore. K17 is rarely used and the biggest aircraft that K15 gets is the 767. AA
33 Ripcordd : H18 is only used in the summer months and closed in winter for their de-icer trucks which park on the gate..And K15 can take a 777 it has a line for i
34 AA777LVR : As it stands, L2A & H18 will become staging areas for de-ice season in the next couple of weeks. This may have already been mentioned, but L2B is an
35 Lfutia : Isn't H8 also used for 757 operations or am I slowly losing my mind? A 777 blocked at H15 would just be horrible. It has a very long jetbridge, longer
36 AA777LVR : H8 is not a 757 approved gate. Yes it is possible you are losing your mind, I'm not a mental health professional. The j/b on H15 isn't all that lengt
37 Ripcordd : Yes H17 is very very long bridge.... And yes K15 had 777 on a reg basis last summer or the summer before that while they closed k12 or k16 for cement
38 Lfutia : Your right I am thinking about H17. I kinda wish IB used L8 so we dont have to walk all the time to L8 for flt 86 or 88 doing wheelchair preboards. I
39 Phatfarmlines : Is this even operationally legal and safe? What if a mechanic was called to the gate and needed to check out the wingtip? Would the MD-80 overlapping
40 Cubsrule : Sure. Happens all the time. Then you move the other aircraft, but how often does that happen?
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