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Irish Aviation 26/09 ''Eitliochta Agus Craic''  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26935 posts, RR: 58
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9332 times:

Time for another thread. I hope the title is correct  Smile

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Lots of changes predicted this Winter. Aer Lingus being one of them. Hopefully the shed of routes is leveling off and we will be back to stability. With two major Tour Operators gone in the last 48 hours this will further reduce the charter market.

Over to you guys ......

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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19212 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9301 times:

EI cancelled ORK-RNS and FR DUB-MRS and DUB-TUF. Presumably these are seasonal cuts.

[Edited 2009-09-17 07:55:41]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9281 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1):
EI cancelled ORK-RNS and FR DUB-MRS and DUB-TUF. Presumably these are seasonal cuts.

Yes, indeed they are seasonal. it is surprising though that both EI and FR operate DUB-MRS in the summer, but neither in the winter. One would have thought either one of them could sustain a year round service.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5411 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9260 times:

About the thread title, it means something like "Aviation and Anecdotes"?


I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineJah718 From Ireland, joined Sep 2009, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9242 times:

Hi all! This is my very first post of many hopefully. I have been following this thread for a while now and it is my main source of news on Irish aviation. I have just returned from a trip to PEK on CityJet and AF and I will be posting my very first Trip report with lots of pictures.
I will let you all know when I post it
Thanks
John


User currently offlineAerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9242 times:



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 3):
About the thread title, it means something like "Aviation and Anecdotes"?

Yeah, "ag eitilt "= flying

"craic" = fun!

Great thread title OA260!



Cabin crew blog http://dolefuldolegirl.blogspot.ie/
User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2155 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9230 times:

From the last thread PF is now the new code for Primera Air.
Welcome Jah718

[Edited 2009-09-17 09:10:21]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26935 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9208 times:



Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 3):
About the thread title, it means something like "Aviation and Anecdotes"?

Yes ''Aviation and Craic''

Quoting Jah718 (Reply 4):
Hi all! This is my very first post of many hopefully.

Welcome aboard ....

Quoting Jah718 (Reply 4):
first Trip report with lots of pictures.

Look forward to it  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Aerdingus (Reply 5):
Great thread title OA260!

Thanks dont know how but it just came into my mind lol...

Quoting EICVD (Reply 6):
the new code for Primera Air.

Thanks Mark, didnt think it could the other lol... When I typed PF into my CRS system it came up with ''Palestinian Airlines''.  Big grin


User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2155 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9191 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Thanks Mark, didnt think it could the other lol... When I typed PF into my CRS system it came up with ''Palestinian Airlines''.

No problem.


User currently offlineTravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9187 times:

Thanks for opening the next one OA260 - I was trying to work out how to do it last night, but didnt see how to close the old one.

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
I hope the title is correct

Teideal sár-mhaith ar fad !
eitlíocht agus craic - eitlíochta would be an adjective "pertaining to aviation"

Quoting Jah718 (Reply 4):
my very first post

In the spirit of the thread's title - Fáilte !


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9131 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1):
ORK-RNS

Yes, seasonal cut. ORK-GVA should be starting as the winter seasonal service shortly. AFAIK ORK-RNS has been replaced by additional ORK-BHX rotations.
As an aside Mondays 726/727 OKR-BHX was operated by one of the A321s, seemed to be two A321s down in ORK on tuesday.

Quoting EICVD (Reply 6):
From the last thread PF is now the new code for Primera Air.

Missed that one!

Quoting Jah718 (Reply 4):
Hi all! This is my very first post of many hopefully.

Welcome. Hopefully you will enjoy it here. Whereabouts is your local?

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26935 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9122 times:



Quoting TravelExec (Reply 9):
eitlíocht agus craic - eitlíochta would be an adjective "pertaining to aviation"

Not bad for a foreigner though lol...  Wink Whats an 'A' between friends  Big grin


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9116 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
Not bad for a foreigner though lol...

I think the Greek has out-done us.....yet again. Maybe in his next career he could become an ambassador for the Irish language, like that Yank, Des Bishop.

Has anyone flown into Frankfurt/Hahhn? Im off to the motor show tomorrow and the person paying booked FR. research would suggest that the bus service is fairly frequent (but might be longer than the flight itself), any tips guys? Apparently LX via ZRH was not an option  Sad boo!



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19212 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9111 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 12):
Has anyone flown into Frankfurt/Hahhn?

Yeah, but not for 5 or 6 years.

Funnily enough, I actually went from FRA to HHN by bus. Was very easy to use.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24927 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9111 times:

Rumours of Jet2 basing a 757 at DUB...operating to destinations which are outside of FR's reach with their measly 738s  Wink


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26935 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9086 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 14):
Rumours of Jet2 basing a 757 at DUB

Would be nice to see, I always wanted to go on their B757's.


User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9013 times:

Interesting strategy by LS if its true! Where are we alking about I wonder? TLV, SSH and some Greek destinations that the 77 might struggle with during the summer?

I see LS will e operating some ski charters this winter, anyone know about the Canary flights they operated last year?


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24927 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9000 times:



Quoting Shamrock321 (Reply 16):

IF it happens, I'd imagine Tenerife, Heraklion, Paphos, Dalaman, Sharm El Sheikh, Rhodes and Lanzarote.



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineTravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8938 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):

Not bad for a foreigner though lol...

VERY impressive - if only some of my countrymen could get that close, or would even make the effort. Maith thú!

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 14):
Rumours of Jet2 basing a 757 at DUB.

Carribean, US, Canada all within reach...


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8925 times:



Quoting TravelExec (Reply 18):
Carribean, US, Canada all within reach...

Not typical LS destinations, even from the UK. My guess would be the same as others, Egypt, Greek and Canary Islands, basically what they offer from the likes of MAN or BFS. I would expect that quite a lot of the capacity would be sold via smaller tour operators, the remainder through jet2holidays.com and a relatively few seats (possibly none?) sold as seat-only via jet2.com.

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineTravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8921 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 19):

Not typical LS destinations

Yeah - but a guy can dream can't he... LCC transatlantic... no action there since Zoom...


User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8884 times:

"Irish Aviation 26/09 ''Eitliocht Agus Craic an Cúlú ''

I'm sorry guys, but after 20 posts and still no sign of bad news, someone had to do something Big grin
.......................................................
Aer Lingus faces lot of turbulence

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...nance/2009/0918/1224254787300.html

Some main points from the article:

- In briefings with staff, analysts and media since he started on September 1st, Mueller has talked of the “extraordinary brand” and the “dedication and education of staff” and the airline’s strong cash position. But he’s also stressed the need for “amputation” not “cosmetic surgery” to reduce its costs base.

- Mueller has also highlighted the need to overhaul Aer Lingus’s IT systems and to take capacity out of its network. “The suit is too big,” is how the German describes it.

- Mueller says he appreciates the “national importance” of the American routes, particularly to Shannon, but has stressed in briefings that Aer Lingus is “not a charity”

- Mueller also needs to take a knife to the board. It is too big for a company the size of Aer Lingus and there’s no good reason why the Government should have three representatives. All the indications are that Shannon-New York has only survived this long due to Government pressure.


Overall, Mueller seems to have a clear view of what's important about Aer Lingus, and more importantly, what has to be done to secure it's survival. I agree wholeheartadly with the points above. It's still to early to say for definate, but the appointment of Mr Mueller seems to have been a good move.


User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8798 times:

I cant see them launching TFS and ACE as both EI and FR will operate scheduled service from DUB to both islands this winter, however FUE would be a great choice, and only one flight a week ex DUB!

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24927 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8773 times:



Quoting Shamrock321 (Reply 22):
I cant see them launching TFS and ACE as both EI and FR will operate scheduled service from DUB to both islands this winter

If it happens, the base will open for Summer 09. Anyway, you lot love the Canaries almost us much as we Scots do Big grin



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26935 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8751 times:

IATA sees signs of premium-class air travel revival

Global airlines are reporting initial signs of a recovery in first and business class travel after monthly figures showed an improvement, the International Air Transport Association (IATA) said.

The number of people traveling premium class was down 14.1pc from a year earlier in July, with the decline decelerating from a 21.3pc drop in June, the airline industry trade group said today in a statement.

http://www.independent.ie/business/w...ss-air-travel-revival-1889609.html


25 Sawtooth : NOC-DUB/NOC-KIR are showing up in Ryanair booking system (checkin/new search). Seem unlikely unless positioning aircraft for other routes, or they may
26 EIBoston : Does anybody know which aircraft is operating the 133/132 today? Thanks.
27 OA260 : *** AER LINGUS LIMITED *** FLIGHT INFO EI0133/18SEP J 18SEP 1402 LOCAL - ---------SCHEDULED--- A/C-------------ACTUAL-------- DUBSNN ..1130 ..1215 RD
28 Humberside : One potential problem though could be traffic rights to non-EU destinations, since Jet 2 are obviously an UK airline, not an Irish one. Will depend o
29 EIBoston : Thanks OA260 but I am actually looking for the actual aircraft that is operating the flight. Or am I missing something here
30 Acelanzarote : Well Monarch are doing charters for someone out of DUB to ACE, at the minute there are 2 x A321's on a Sat morning so perhaps Jet2 will pick some of
31 OA260 : Yep your missing something LOL.... A/C RD = EI - ORD Now can someone help me find out what Reg did the following flights?? BD 763 LHR TLV 13SEP BD 76
32 Aer Lingus : ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: G-WWBB [Airbus A330] Message label: SA Block id: 2 Msg no: S54A Flight id: BD0763 [LHR-TLV] [bmi British Midland/bmibaby]
33 OA260 : Brilliant . Being dark I couldnt make it out on both ways. 2 new Reg's to add to my list. Thanks
34 Babybus : Could someone just remind us of the reason transatlantic flights have to land in Shannon? I have no idea.
35 EIBoston : Thanks OA260! When I put my mouse over RD it was showing up a tag of Alitalia Team(Italy). Then I was getting worried
36 Aer Lingus : Neither do I ahem....... Politics
37 EI320 : Transatlantic flights no longer have to land in SNN since the stopover rule was abolished.
38 Post contains links OA260 : Shannon stopover The first Air Services Agreement with the United States in 1945 only permitted flights to Shannon, and only permitted Irish airlines
39 Meristem : Dia duit, With the end of the stopover rule last year, how is SNN managing economically and passenger-wise?
40 LUPOR1D : Not very well at all! For the winter the only transatlantic services remaining will be Continental to Newark and Aer Fungus to Boston.
41 AmricanShamrok : Pending any further announcement, EI will operate SNN-JFK too. CO25 | CO24 EI111 | EI110 EI133 | EI132
42 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus to JFK is still in the booking engine a 4 weekly for winter, Aer Lingus want rid of the route but apparently it is only being kept on beca
43 Shamrock321 : There is a handful of airlines operating DUB-Canairies, but Im talking about scheduled flights! MON/ZB operate alot of charter flight ex DUB but you c
44 AmricanShamrok : Indeed. And so they should be!
45 Wexfordflyer : Well Thomson operate to SSH from Dublin and so do Monarch so i wouldn't see that this would be too much of a problem for them. Heard the other day th
46 Shamrock321 : MON have a crew based in DUB for the summer even tough thhey dont fly in/out every day. But there is a huge difference between a tour operator guarant
47 Loughrey1 : Can anyone tell me the website in how to tell what aircraft is operating a specific flight? For example
48 OA260 : Its an in house CRS system like Galileo/Amadeus etc... not available to general public.
49 Neutral : The Irish Times ABU DHABI-based airline Etihad is in talks with the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) about expanding its operations in Ireland next year
50 Post contains links DavecFlyer : That CRS system will tell you the reg prior to the aircraft departing. However after the flight is airborne, you can track it using www.acarsd.org or
51 Humberside : However many Jet 2 scheduled flights carry a large amount of tour operator passengers. So I would be shocked if there was any flights which Jet 2 sol
52 Rufusisgod : Jet2 are working for the winter taking over flights from Monarch. These will be charter flights on the 737 and possibly 757. Monarch have a permenant
53 AmricanShamrok : Flyglobespan are advertising their last flight of the season from Dublin to Vancouver (which is this coming Wednesday) as €12 on their website. Incl
54 EICVD : OY- reg
55 Neutral : James Horgan Etihad Airlines was on Newstalk 106 today talking about what Dublin could achieve as a hub if it put its mind to it.The DAA have a great
56 Loughrey1 : Thanks for those who replied to my question! loughrey1
57 OA260 : Not if you sent a car to my house to take me to DUB and gave me the ticket free
58 AmricanShamrok : Ha! 'nuff said I wonder would EY send a different aircraft for the (potential) 3 extra weekly flights to AUH...it'd be nice to see an A340 at DUB.
59 Pe@rson : What a price! £90 one-way all-in to us Brits. Operates via YYC, and it's also £90 for DUB-YYC.
60 TravelExec : That has got to be the cheapest price per kilometer on long haul all in price ever.
61 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : It's really good. I think YHM is the the same too, of course Y2's summer schedule from DUB is coming to an end now so you wouldn't have much choice w
62 Pe@rson : Well, I paid £130 on US for DUB-PHL-BOS-DCA-LGA-PHL-DUB earlier this year. That's 6,547nm, so £0.019 per nm. DUB-YYC-YVR, meanwhile, is 3,941nm and
63 EICVD : Or a 77W
64 Post contains links BestWestern : Really poorly written EI article in todays Indo http://www.independent.ie/business/i...te-to-sell-25pc-stake-1891619.html
65 Aer Lingus : " target=_blank>http://www.independent.ie/business/i....html If the state sells 25%, this would mean that FR will buy EI. Not very good to hear.
66 COEI2007 : It says he CM thinks the goverment will sell there stake, yet at the end of the article it says they are not looking for a white knight or strategic
67 Post contains links OA260 : The rest of my Trip Report is now up :: BMI A330 Premium Economy 24 Hours In TLV Lots Pics (by OA260 Sep 20 2009 in Trip Reports)
68 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : Good video here of a Ryanair 738 parking too close to the terminal at KIR. The left wing nearly hit the building. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_SOv
69 Wexfordflyer : Monarch are closing their base in DUB though so this leaves the gap for Jet2. Not sure if Monarch will still operate some flights using english based
70 Shamrock604 : It is only being closed for the winter season. Subject to contractual stuff, the permanent crews may be offered unpaid leave over the winter as oppos
71 COEI2007 : They used to operate with English crew, and only operated ex DUB from Thurs throught to Sunday I think, so this will probably happen again. Rumors of
72 COEI2007 : Saw this in another thread: Condé Nast Traveller has published their rankings of world's best airlines: Best airlines - short haul leisure: 1. BMI 2.
73 Shamrock350 : Strange to see them grouped with full service airlines and actually doing quite well amongst them. Aer Lingus should be part of the low cost poll whe
74 OA260 : For shorthaul Swiss should be well ahead of BMI . Just my experience thats all. Shorthaul BMI are not the best but Mid Haul they are certainly very g
75 LUPOR1D : At the moment all of their aircraft are on the TF register- are they registering one/some in Sweeden just for this purpose? C-GTBB is damp leased by
76 Shamrock604 : Clearly, these Conde Nast people are on drugs. BMI?? are they bloody joking?? There's nothing wrong with BMI's service, but I wouldnt rate it at the
77 EICVD : All Primera a/c where on the TF- register when operated by Jetx. They now have their own AOC and operate under the name Primera Air Scandinavia All a
78 Post contains links and images OA260 : Well as I said DUB-LHR nothing to write home about. This was my J class meal last Sunday on the 1500 flight . God knows what awaits me on tomorrows f
79 Aer Lingus : Looks like the cabin crew picked these up from the deli counter in Spar on the way in
80 LUPOR1D : Aha- none of the fleet lists I looked at have been updated, but I see yes the aircraft are now on the Danish register
81 Post contains links EICVD : http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/Primera-Air-Scandinavia Thats the best link I can provide. Still not fully updated as it doesnt mention their 73
82 Shamrock321 : Jet2 ARE operating charters this winter from DUB, I know they are doing the PDV flights this winter, so Im sure they have other work like canairies to
83 BestWestern : The EI shorthaul service is excellent value - a good reliable service, with a quality buy on board menu - thats why it scores well. I am one who pref
84 Post contains links EI320 : I've uploaded the new EI advert here for anyone that's interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xLPLNysXM
85 IrishLPL : Evening all! Returned from Sweden last week after a lovely trip; FR all the way- nice experience through STN (my first time) not much scenery though;
86 Shamrock350 : That's a very nice advert, really like how the shamrock appears. I heard about that advert on twitter as someone mentioned that Aer Lingus were adver
87 OA260 : LOL... if it was timed then its a good piece of marketing by EI ! A bit of humor. Joke is if I had have been in Y class with my Gold card I could hav
88 LUPOR1D : Its possible the 700 is still being operated by Jetx No set aircraft generally operates any route, usually rotates
89 Post contains links OA260 : Shannon plane leasing firm in merger Shannon-based aircraft leasing company Genesis has announced a merger with global aviation company AerCap. Under
90 TravelExec : I definitely need your travel agent's number/web address... My thoughts exactly.
91 Post contains links Aer Lingus : interview with colm barrington on cnn http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...ulden.uk.barrington.aer.lingus.cnn
92 Wexfordflyer : Well at least that is something anyway. Better than pulling out altogether. I wouldnt have thought so but thats only my opinion. I would think that a
93 BrianDromey : Just back from HHN with FR. A very agreeable service both on the inbound and outbound. On-time and friendly. Other than my foot being run over my a ga
94 Post contains images Eirbus06 : This was outside the shannon aerospace hanger today This is for OA260. SX-OAN And below is a possible tech as i dont think us air serve shannon with 7
95 OA260 : You know what you are !! Deadly ... thanks for that. Soon I hope to see one with my own eyes and better still fly on one. Its an exciting week for us
96 JWMD123 : First I have heard of this. Comments anyone
97 Post contains links EI320 : Interesting news re EI long-haul......outsource it to a third party? maybe a Y+ service on the way? http://www.businessworld.ie/livenews.htm?a=2480924
98 Shamrock321 : Those smokless cigs have already been introduced, they sold them on my DUB-BGY flight last week.
99 Shamrock350 : Very interesting, not sure what to make of the possible outsourcing to a third party but it mentions that Aer Lingus are unhappy with the amount of c
100 Post contains links EI320 : I suspect it's a threat we'll be hearing more of when the next round of cost cuts are announced in the coming weeks. Management want to abolish what'
101 Shamrock604 : Bargaining chip / Negotiating position. Wont happen IMHO.
102 Aer Lingus : Courtesy of contrails blog "Today's US Airways flight AWE 711 routing Zurich to Philadelphia diverted to Shannon with a technical snag. The flight wa
103 Post contains images Eirbus06 : And here she is departing this morning to Philly! And a better pic for you OA,the one last night was taken with a phone.
104 COEI2007 : Exactly. Take these cuts or we will cut the Atlantic! I've heard it before! The idea of a premium Y is a good idea. Maybe reduce the number of seats
105 M6480 : That sounds very speculative, not one fact in the report, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that been implemented any time soon.
106 EICVD : Saw the -700 parked up today, OY-PSG is the new reg. Jetx are no more, think they have just renamed themselves.
107 Shamrock604 : It's all just ideas being thrown up in the air for evaluation. I do think Y+ is something worth looking into though. Let's face it, the Atlantic can
108 Aer Lingus : just booked a weekend away in Lisbon for €72 return incl taxes with EI for November. Not bad I have to say. It doesn't beat my record cheap continen
109 LUPOR1D : the US airways at Shannon diverted in operating Zurich-PHL. N246AY
110 Pe@rson : I paid £0.02 return all-in for STN-SVQ-STN a couple years ago... Enjoy LIS - it looks a fantastic city.
111 Aer Lingus : I concede!
112 Styles9002 : Do you mean the short-haul flights? If so, that would be a step in the right direction. Aer Lingus should leverage its connections from long-haul to
113 Wexfordflyer : Thanks for that. Glad they have. I was always a bit confused by the whole Primera/JetX thing but maybe I am just a little slow Has anyone ever flown
114 BrianDromey : The current Cara magazine certainly gives the impression that European flights and flights on B6/UA are now bookable on one ticket. SEA-DUB-MAD, for
115 Wexfordflyer : I flew with them once and guess I was one of the lucky ones to have no delays. Flew ORK-SNN-FAO (just a double drop, didn't get off in SNN), then the
116 Shamrock321 : My first summer working at DUB involved many Eirjet delays!At one stage thhey were using Omni 757s, and they were as bad! 7-8 hours delays were consta
117 Post contains links Sawtooth : RYANAIR BRINGS ‘YES TO EUROPE’ CAMPAIGN TO REGIONS "Ryanair, Europe’s largest airline, tomorrow (22nd Sept) brings its ‘Yes to Europe’ campa
118 OA260 : Seems to wok well with BMI and decent loads on my flights recently. Thanks great shot not long now . Do you mean Europe? USA have been in Galileo CRS
119 BrianDromey : Yea, I think they did OK the first winter (2004/2005) but summer 2005 would have been a major cash drain for them, with all the hiring-in they needed
120 Aer Lingus : Euro Atlantic Airlines I think they were called
121 BrianDromey : The very ones! Cheers for that.
122 Post contains links OA260 : It was end of October time that I flew them IIRC. I flew back LCA-WAW-DUB with LO. Yes very true. As with BMI I wouldnt bother to pay the difference
123 Post contains links EICVD : I flew with them last year to PMI. Had no problems at all, flights were pretty much on time & the cabin crew were fairly friendly compared to FH the
124 Aer Lingus : With JetX I could never understand the branding: Your boarding cards had GX123, the gate screen and departure screens had JXX123, the announcments wer
125 Wexfordflyer : Really enjoyed that!! They are one of the ones you always see in DUB but never have a clue what they are like!! Was that the one where they landed in
126 Shamrock604 : Yes, I mean the short haul flights and connections seem to be back in. I cant make a booking or anything from my Amadeus system (or at least I dont k
127 OA260 : In Galileo all the European classes have always been available incl X class etc.. consolidators use these to book connecters for say SQ QF BA etc.. I
128 EICVD : Thanks It was indeed. Ballykelly air base I think it was called.
129 Shamrock604 : Ah, OK. But this does seem to be a change from a few months ago in Amadeus, when only very limited information used to be shown. As I say, im no whiz
130 GrinddalCPH : Hi all, Daniel here, Dane living in Clontarf, Dublin I Fly to CPH regularly, for both business and just to go home and visit. Is there any chance, tha
131 Aer Lingus : i've lost count the amount of time they've started that route and stopped it again. It was served by 735's until they left the fleet and then by A320
132 LUPOR1D : That not branding. GX is the IATA code JXX is the ICAO code. The ICAO code is what ATC and the flight crew use, the IATA one is for booking/airport p
133 GrinddalCPH : Yeah, Thats what I thought, Thanks anyway !
134 Shamrock321 : Well hopefully the last chapter in my work saga, but I got me a job at DUB! Start back on Monday!
135 Neutral : Well done glad to hear the good news at last.
136 Post contains links and images EISHN : Actually, I think that flight was operated by this crowd: http://dparker.net/pictures/eirjet_quicky.jpg
137 Wexfordflyer : Haha!! Brilliant, I take my hat off to you!!
138 EISHN : Thanks, but that's not my artwork, it's been around a good few years, just pulled it off the web after a quick search.
139 Aerdingus : Aw, maybe in this confusion they were just seeking a different clientele! Actually, I think that flight was operated by this crowd: That's gas!
140 AmricanShamrok : FR seem to be going all out to promote a Yes vote. What's in it for them? I don't understand why some airports/airlines use ICAO codes for flight num
141 TravelExec : Great stuff - congratulations...
142 Wexfordflyer : My guess would be that EZY is (almost) instantly recognisable as Easyjet but U2 alot of people wouldnt have a clue. Only a guess mind you.
143 BrianDromey : IATA codes are (strictly speaking) an un-necessary luxury, particularly if your flights are not distributed via GDS. There is a fairly significant re
144 TravelExec : Clearly, Ryanair recognises that for its home-base to be a functional economy in a fairer, better run country is the better way for them to make more
145 Aer Lingus : I'm not stupid, I know what each of those are. I did work in an airport... I'm viewing it from the point of view of joe scummer, (good ole joe got to
146 Post contains links OA260 : O'Leary flies in face of critics to offer 'Yes' plea and free hot meal SO you're sitting there eating tender breast of chicken with a delicate Bellena
147 BrianDromey : These sound like the upgrade prices to me, which are in addition to the underlying economy fare. Been going for quite some time now..... I think the
148 EI320 : What a stupid article. The day EI start offering J class for €400 is the day they should abandon it altogether.
149 LUPOR1D : Said you didnt understand- so you got an explanation!
150 EICVD : I think he was just looking for another reason to give out about certain types of people
151 COEI2007 : I think it could impact J bookings, however, a lot of companies will not pay for J travel for its employee's anymore, but would pay for a Y+ cabin. A
152 Wexfordflyer : This shows the fickleness/ignorance/stubbornness of alot of the Irish voters, voting to spite someone else whom they may not even know. This is proba
153 Post contains links OA260 : Not going to off topic but I am an EU citizen and I want a vote !! Count yourself lucky that the Irish have the democracy that I am denied. There is
154 Aer Lingus : Of course, I wouldn't post unless there was!
155 Wexfordflyer : Very true, so us Irish should use it as a tool to excercise our opinions and choices as members of a democratic state rather than as a tool to use ag
156 Irish251 : It will pave the way for further EU enlargement. That alone is reason anough for Ryanair, which more than any airline has developed a web of intra-Eu
157 Shamrock604 : I suspect it will also soften attitudes towards FR from within the European Commision and maybe even smooth any future takeover attempt.......?? FR h
158 BOStonsox : Well, that's surprising, there had been a press release a few months ago saying that it was doing BETTER than they'd expected. BTW, does anyone know
159 Shamrock604 : [ Usual airline PR spin. Everything is always "ahead of expectations" "exceeding targets" blah blah blah until a month later the truth comes out. Who
160 COEI2007 : It was ''exceeding expectations'' when Mannion was in charge, but now its not up to CM's likings. 2 flights per day to JFK, as well as 2 to BOS is a
161 Greenjet : All Ryanair airports funnily enough
162 Post contains links OA260 : Ryanair profits down 78% Thursday, 24 September 2009 10:41 Passenger numbers are up but profits are down at Ryanair, according to the budget airline's
163 Post contains links OA260 : Another Aer Lingus bid unlikely - O'Leary Thursday, 24 September 2009 11:56 Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary has told the company's AGM that he thinks it i
164 TravelExec : This is a good argument as to why FR would be in favour of a Yes vote. Of course, this same arguement stands as being of great benefit to the passeng
165 Wexfordflyer : It appears that Michael O' Leary wants us to vote YES to Lisbon. But this is untrue. What he actually wants us to vote YES to is about 50 miles outsid
166 TravelExec : Now THAT was funny!
167 EISHN : Not necessarily aviation related, but most certainly Irish. I'd just like to wish everyone a HAPPY ARTHURS DAY! :D
168 OA260 : LOL... I hate the stuff. They have a fridge full of it in the BMI lounge and I told a mate of mine who said he would happily spend the day in the BMI
169 Post contains links OA260 : Ryanair considers paying a one-off dividend RYANAIR is considering breaking with tradition and paying shareholders a one-off dividend. This is because
170 Wexfordflyer : Anyone know why there was an Alitalia aircraft in today?? Just caught a slight glimpse of one earlier so don't know anymore.
171 AmricanShamrok : Where, DUB?
172 Shamrock321 : Yes I seen it aswell, it was and A319/320 parked beside new terminal. It was in new colours.
173 DavecFlyer : This was EI-DTG. I guess it was here for some leasing company regulations. Another one visited a few months ago.
174 Wexfordflyer : Sorry, forgot to say in DUB yeah. Thanks for that.
175 EI320 : If BA manages to purchase BD, which seems a possibility, it'll be interesting to see what happens with DUB-LHR. Wonder would BA be happy to let EI hav
176 Shamrock321 : I think the EU would have massive problems with BA buying BD, and if in the unlikely event it happend, BA would be forced to give up some slots.
177 BrianDromey : Im not so sure the EU would have a problem with the merger, perhaps the UK competition authority might put some restrictions on the purchase, but not
178 Styles9002 : In the unlikely event of it happening and then BA does not continue to serve the BD route, I would expect strenuous objections to BA 'handing' over s
179 Shamrock604 : Agreed. My feeling is that BA would operate DUB-LHR themselves. It would be just EI and BA on the route, and I suspect with just the two of them it c
180 Post contains links LUPOR1D : Here's an interesting article I found http://www.anna.aero/2009/09/25/aer-...ndon-gatwick-easyjet-takes-notice/
181 BrianDromey : I think it would depend on how many slots BA would have to return, remembering that the current BD services produce little or no direct feed into the
182 Shamrock604 : True, but the EI service brings them plenty of pax. Why would they want to hand all that over to EI when they can keep it to themselves if they had t
183 M6480 : Does anyone know if E-JFK has left the EI fleet and if so were it has gone?
184 Gulfstream : Quoting from the August 2009 Irish Air Letter " Aer Lingus A330-300 EI-JFK is due to to be taken out of service in -mid August in preperation for its
185 Post contains links Wexfordflyer : Did anyone see the Lufthansa retrojet in DUB today - Sat- (at least I think it was)? I just caught a glimpse as I looked out the window of it rolling
186 Shamrock604 : She has graced our airport with her presence on several occasions Wexfordflyer. I have seen her twice already in DUB. Would be nice to see the IB one
187 Wexfordflyer : Thats great!! It was my first time to see her yesterday, like I said I only caught a glimpse so fingers crossed I will see her again soon and get a p
188 Post contains links Shamrock604 : Yeah, she's a beaut. Bit of a let down when you step inside though, cos the interior is a bit "retro" too (i.e a bit rundown!) You can buy a scale mo
189 Post contains links and images DavecFlyer : The IB one was in Dublin on August 28th. Very nice it looked as well! View Large View MediumPhoto © Luigi Maccio - SpotIT
190 Toulouse : She is indeed a beaut! I was in TLS airport one day in July I think heading down towards Area A which has good views of the aprons for Areas A and B,
191 Post contains links OA260 : My BMI DUB-LHR-DUB TR can be found here :: BMI Business Class/Farewell Olympic London W/Pics (by OA260 Sep 27 2009 in Trip Reports)
192 AmricanShamrok : The first BA LCY-SNN-JFK flight takes place Tuesday. Anyone know what time it will be in Shannon? T'would be worth skipping a few lectures to run out
193 EI320 : I was looking at the timetable earlier, I reckon it'll be in SNN around 13:45. Scheduled to leave LCY at 12:50.
194 AmricanShamrok : Sound. Interesting movement from SNN today on the boards: Arrivals Brussels Kalitta Air Llc K4328 27-09-2009 14:40 Departures New York (newark) Kalit
195 EISHN : Three detainees left Gitmo yesterday, two of them bond for Ireland. I would presume they came in on one of the many private US jets landing at SNN eve
196 Post contains links LUPOR1D : It had some sort of an issue heading to EWR, dumped fuel and landed at shannon, 6 POB AFAIK this was operated by a C17 into Baldonnel, http://www.fli
197 EISHN : " target=_blank>http://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/3...8845/ That's interesting. Thanks for sharing the picture and info. Is the runway at Baldonnel
198 LUPOR1D : It operated in from Gitmo (presumably in Guantanimo bay) then out to Mildenhall in the UK, RWY11/29 is 1800ish metres so I'm unsure if it would have
199 Post contains links EISHN : Cheers for that. On another topic, has anyone heard about Irish man Shane Byrne who is working with NASA was part of a group that discovered water pa
200 Shamrock321 : Dont forget the SK retrojet which has been in DUB a few times! Also tommorow see a huge return to DUB!!!! Mine........ Cant bleedin wai!
201 Neutral : Best of luck with the new job.
202 Post contains links OA260 : New thread here guys : Irish Aviation 27/09 'Liospóin Speisialta' (by OA260 Sep 27 2009 in Civil Aviation)
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