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FL Starts Branson To MCO  
User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2662 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

http://pressroom.airtran.com/phoenix...-newsArticle&ID=1335954&highlight=

seems like an odd route....

edit: Sat. only route

[Edited 2009-09-28 12:34:15]


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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Might work.

Short of driving to MCI or Tulsa, I don't believe there are any other nonstops to MCO. Might be a subsidy here too.

Alleigent might go to Sanford out of SGF, but I'm not sure..


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22865 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2005 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 1):
Might be a subsidy here too.

There's almost certainly a subsidy.

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 1):
Alleigent might go to Sanford out of SGF, but I'm not sure..

They do, twice a week (Monday and Friday, I think).



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6603 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1974 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
There's almost certainly a subsidy.

For Saturday only service??? I kind of doubt it. A route like this provides little value to the entertainment business in Branson.

I think this is just some extra utilization flying where FL has a particular niche (taking leisure travelers to Florida).


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3805 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

BKG - anywhere = subsidy. However, of everything they've thrown cash at thus far, I'd say this has the best chance of surviving on its own.

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22865 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1968 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 3):
I think this is just some extra utilization flying where FL has a particular niche (taking leisure travelers to Florida).

If they were catering to the local southeast Missouri market, they'd be much better off going to SGF.



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6603 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1953 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
If they were catering to the local southeast Missouri market, they'd be much better off going to SGF.

But they're not going to start service at SGF with 1 flight a week. Much more cost effective to send the flight to an airport which FL already serves.


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1953 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
If they were catering to the local southeast Missouri market, they'd be much better off going to SGF.

Maybe so, but I doubt FL would fly out of both BKG and SGF.

Anyone know how the ATL-BKG route is doing?


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22865 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1945 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 7):
Maybe so, but I doubt FL would fly out of both BKG and SGF.

It doesn't make any difference, as IIRC they don't have staff at BKG.



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6603 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1924 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
It doesn't make any difference, as IIRC they don't have staff at BKG.

But it does. The BKG-MCO route can be handled under the existing contract FL has with BKG and probably with no (or little additional) cost to FL. SGF-MCO would require signing a new contract for someone to provide handling there.

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 7):
Anyone know how the ATL-BKG route is doing?

I've heard that FL has gotten more origin traffic from BKG than expected hence the move to add MCO.


User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

I noticed this flight this past weekend and almost started a thread on it. It seems FL has updated some of the schedules. ATL-BKG seems to do well so I think this route will work too.

Also notable for FL is that they took MDW-BOS off the route map which apparently rules out any return seasonally. Not that they should bring it back with WN now taking the route.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22865 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1880 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 9):
The BKG-MCO route can be handled under the existing contract FL has with BKG and probably with no (or little additional) cost to FL. SGF-MCO would require signing a new contract for someone to provide handling there.

Of course, it would ordinarily be possible that they could sign a new contract at SGF more cheaply than at BKG, except that BKG will likely service them at a loss. It's a subsidy in disguise.



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User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 962 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1867 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 10):
I noticed this flight this past weekend and almost started a thread on it. It seems FL has updated some of the schedules. ATL-BKG seems to do well so I think this route will work too

I did too. When I randomly browsed AirTran's route map and rolled over Branson, I saw that they had connected Branson and MCO. Not to mention MCO's website had it posted on their "New Service" chart over the weekend. It must be in the reservations system now, as it wasn't over the weekend. I didn't want to start a thread (I'm sure FL787 concurs with me on this) until the flight was loaded into the reservations system.

This is actually a route that I expected to happen especially once they dropped MKE-BKG. I knew it was just a matter of time...



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1836 times:



Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 12):
I didn't want to start a thread (I'm sure FL787 concurs with me on this) until the flight was loaded into the reservations system.

Actually I saw it was in reservations but I still wasn't sure a once a week flight deserved it's own thread. I wouldn't have gone off the route map either though because it still says SAN and SEA served seasonally when it should be SAN and BTV. Minor issue but I wouldn't use the route map as a source. Also I can't find a DTW-SRQ flight anywhere but its on the route map.



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User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 962 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1814 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 13):
Actually I saw it was in reservations but I still wasn't sure a once a week flight deserved it's own thread. I wouldn't have gone off the route map either though because it still says SAN and SEA served seasonally when it should be SAN and BTV. Minor issue but I wouldn't use the route map as a source. Also I can't find a DTW-SRQ flight anywhere but its on the route map.

Yes, but it must have just been added to the reservations system, as it wasn't on either Saturday or Sunday.

FYI: MANY of the SRQ routes are seasonal. DTW-SRQ is one of them. IIRC, SRQ-ATL/BWI/MDW is the only year round FL routes from SRQ.



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1809 times:
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Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
If they were catering to the local southeast Missouri market,

You mean SouthWEST Missouri, not SE,I assume.  Smile



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1766 times:



Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 14):
Yes, but it must have just been added to the reservations system, as it wasn't on either Saturday or Sunday.

FYI: MANY of the SRQ routes are seasonal. DTW-SRQ is one of them. IIRC, SRQ-ATL/BWI/MDW is the only year round FL routes from SRQ.

Well it was added to the employee listing site over the weekend. I just figured reservations was added at the same time.

I know SRQ is mostly seasonal stuff but I can't even find DTW-SRQ on the saturdays during winter and spring break so I don't think it's happening unless they add it later.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22865 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1717 times:



Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 15):
You mean SouthWEST Missouri, not SE,I assume.

I mean, apparently, that I don't know where the third largest city in the state I call home is... It's been a long day.



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2455 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1625 times:
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Name's cubsrule and you live in MO? Wow!! LOL. But I am a Cards fan, so you can see where I am coming from  Wink.

Anyway, I still am waiting to see what or if the Branson folks will be adding any westbound service from BKG. These flights sure are a far cry from those Branson Airlines Dash 7s into Point Lookout!



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3805 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1550 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 9):
Quoting Quickmover (Reply 7):
Anyone know how the ATL-BKG route is doing?

I've heard that FL has gotten more origin traffic from BKG than expected hence the move to add MCO.


Thats nice, but how is the route actually doing ? Does anyone have any insight here?


User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 962 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1452 times:



Quoting FL787 (Reply 16):
Well it was added to the employee listing site over the weekend. I just figured reservations was added at the same time.

I know SRQ is mostly seasonal stuff but I can't even find DTW-SRQ on the saturdays during winter and spring break so I don't think it's happening unless they add it later.

Nope, just hit the public reservations system today. I've been checking all weekend.

Since you work for FL (I assume), you know how quickly FL changes their mind on routes. I'm sure DTW-SRQ will be back, we still have time for them to input the flight into the system.



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