Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3224 posts, RR: 10 Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1878 times:
One trend I've noticed lately is one moving away from the executive jet, basically because it is becoming less and less politically correct in the current environment.
The whole fractional ownership model is currently being questioned/reviewed, large film houses are increasingly expecting people to fly commercial and it looks like ordinary mum and dad shareholders across the world are going to have a much greater say on executive perks in many countries.
With all this in mind, It occurred to me this could be the opportunity needed to get much of the higher paying premium traffic back, and for the industry perhaps even a silver lining?
Recently United and American have made efforts with new first lounges etc... could this be the setting the stage for, at least in part, a greater return to commercial flying away from the Bizjets? What does everybody think?
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20342 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1854 times:
Quoting Lufthansa (Thread starter): One trend I've noticed lately is one moving away from the executive jet, basically because it is becoming less and less politically correct in the current environment.
It's not about being politically correct, although part of it may be. You need to justify what services a corporate jet can provide an executive that an F-class seat can't provide.
Got a team of 8 that needs to get from SF to Dubai to pitch a major deal and they need conference facilities and ground communication to finalize their presentation before arrival in Dubai? Then you've just justified a corporate jet.
Got an executive going to Paris from SF for his monthly meeting with the central office? A J-class seat (or maybe even F-class if he's a high-ranking executive) is all he needs.
It started to seem as if a lot of execs were flying around in corporate jets when this was not justifiable, especially when it was the DTW-DCA route to beg the government for a bailout. That's a 2-hour flight, tops. You don't need a corporate jet for it.
Pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3152 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1732 times:
Have a factory in BFE that's 200 miles from the nearest airport with airline service or in a town with only one flight a day? Usually faster/more efficient to have your high paid execs get there, have their meeting and get out in the same day rather than wasting 3 days for a 6 hour meeting.
DashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
When an executive can drive his car right to the airplane, bypass security, go to Teterboro instead of LGA, get picked up by a limo planeside, have the airplane catered with the food he wants, have the airplane leave when he wants / needs, etc.. corporate aviation will have its hands full. Until that happens, it will be alive and well, albeit smaller in the short term.
An corporate airplane is just too good of a business tool when compared to airline travel.
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10655 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
My son-in-law was flying for a charter outfit recently and he was very, very busy, with several flights a week. He recently took another job as the sole pilot for a wealthy owner at the same or better wages and the possibility of actually seeing his children before they graduate from high school.
The point is, I could not determine any sort of cutbacks in his particular type of flying.
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