Argentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 372 posts, RR: 13 Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8587 times:
Hi all
Today I have found in Reservations Systems an Aeroflot flight on Oct 3rd, SVO-EZE nonstop, flight number is SU4351. And there is a return flight on Oct 10th, EZE-SVO, SU4352, nonstop as well. Aeroflot dropped flights to EZE a long time ago.
Anyone has any idea what is it about? I think an IL96 cannot fly that distance nonstop, with full payload.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8398 times:
The flight #s sound like the MLE flights, if I remember right they're also 4xxx?
Argentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 372 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8390 times:
When Aeroflot flew regularly to EZE, the flight number was SU351/352, so maybe they add a 4 before the three digit number for charters. Is the MLE flight a charter?
Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3139 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8330 times:
Airstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1855 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7975 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 6): Any chance the United States will ever get IL-96 service again?
Cool...when was there in fact IL-96 service in these United States?
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7973 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 6): Any chance the United States will ever get IL-96 service again?
I doubt it , if I am not mistaken this could very nearly be the swansong for the IL96 in SU service as I was under the impression that they are being completely withdrawn before the end of this year ( can anyone confirm or refute this ?)
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RAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7909 times:
Are we talking of 19 hous and 15 minutes of time flight without stops? The range of the IL-96-300 is of 11000 Kms and the range of IL-96M is 10400 Kms.
As our colleague Transpac787 said, the distance is more than 13000 kilometers. Let me think... my bet is to see an intermediate stop at HAV or CCS.
Regards,
Gerard
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Airport From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 1393 posts, RR: 9 Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7827 times:
Quoting Airstud (Reply 8): Cool...when was there in fact IL-96 service in these United States?
I can't confim, but I vaguely remember seeing SU IL-96s in SEA sometime during the 90s. Can anyone confirm?
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7812 times:
Bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2407 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7772 times:
Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 10): As our colleague Transpac787 said, the distance is more than 13000 kilometers. Let me think... my bet is to see an intermediate stop at HAV or CCS.
HAV and CCS are on the wrong side of the Atlantic. The great circle map routing takes it over CMN and SID. In fact SID is about halfway between SVO and EZE.
SFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 392 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6240 times:
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 12): The IL96 has served LAX and SEA in the past.
I took it SFO-SEA-SVO.
Polar route. Was pretty cool.
RIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1785 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5878 times:
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 9): I was under the impression that they are being completely withdrawn before the end of this year
- not long ago appropriate Russian Ministry decided to stop their production, although: 1. it was said that immediate new orders will be still fulfilled (and some orders followed); 2. the decision didn't change much anyway, as to that moment only 19 airframes were produced for 20 years or so.
But I don't remember anything about their withdrawal from service.
Lxmd11 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5779 times:
According to wikipedia the range for an Il 96-300 with max fuel is 13,500km. I know this isnt a great source but i can beleive that. But they would probably have to stop because 19 miles to spare isnt much and they probably want to carry something too
Irobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5492 times:
While we all banter about wondering about the legs of the IL-96, has anyone thought of why this flight might even be taking place? Sounds like a charter to me, why would there be a week's time difference until the return flight?
RAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3833 times:
Quoting Pylon101 (Reply 15): Most probably it is going to be via Havana.
This flight used to be SVO-HAV-LIM.
On the other hand flights to Cuba are on 767-300ER.
So there is space for speculation here )
Caracas would be another great news!
Any chance to see this IL-96 in South America as a demonstration to other airlines (read as Conviasa, Aerosur,...) to sell this aircraft?
Regards,
Gerard
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25 Pylon101: Actually, I don't see any reason for Aeroflot to fly to EZE. Tourist flow is weak. Business is steady but also can't create much traffic. Even Rio can
26 Aeroflot777: After the IL-96 was dropped on the SEA/SFO, the Boeing 772 was used on the route for quite some time. SFO and SEA saw quite a bit of a/c over its tim
27 Addd: No - apparently (according to Russian aviation forums), it is a charter flight bringinig Gazprom (Russian gas monopoly) delegation to the World Gas C
28 Argentina: 03OCT SAT MOW/Z‡4 BUE/-7 SU4351 J C Y SVOEZE 2350 1205‡1 IL9 L/ 0 10OCT SAT BUE/Z-3 MOW/‡7 SU4352 J C Y EZESVO 1500 1635‡1 IL9 L/ 0
29 123: Would not surprise me... AeroSur's 743 "Torisimo" is no longer operating, I just saw it yesterday @VVI ramp, without logos (green tail/white fusselag
30 RAFVC10: Hi 123, and what about operations to MAD? Will be operated with the A330 wet-leased from Air Comet? Regards, Gerard
31 Argentina: According to EZE Airpirt webpage (www.aa2000.com.ar) SU 4351 arrived at 13.09 today. It says MOSCOW via SAL, in Cape Verde. MOSCOW RUSSIA SHEREMETYEVO
32 EZEIZA: It did! I went to EZE to see the beast and I managed to take a couple of pictures of it
33 LipeGIG: In fact in South America, Rio (GIG) would be the best choice for a flight from Russia. First because the leisure market, second because the business
34 Aeroflot777: Can you please share them with us? Aeroflot777
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