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Aeroflot Flight MOW-EZE On 03-OCT IL96  
User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9677 times:

Hi all

Today I have found in Reservations Systems an Aeroflot flight on Oct 3rd, SVO-EZE nonstop, flight number is SU4351. And there is a return flight on Oct 10th, EZE-SVO, SU4352, nonstop as well. Aeroflot dropped flights to EZE a long time ago.

Anyone has any idea what is it about? I think an IL96 cannot fly that distance nonstop, with full payload.

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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3015 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9558 times:

If that's true, that is awesome news. The 96s have some pretty good range, but I'm not 100% sure on limits! Hope to hear more about this.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9488 times:

The flight #s sound like the MLE flights, if I remember right they're also 4xxx?

A



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User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9480 times:

When Aeroflot flew regularly to EZE, the flight number was SU351/352, so maybe they add a 4 before the three digit number for charters. Is the MLE flight a charter?

User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3217 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9420 times:



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 1):
The 96s have some pretty good range,

Nowhere near the 8377mi/13481km distance between SVO and EZE though  Wink


User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3015 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9386 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 4):
Nowhere near the 8377mi/13481km distance between SVO and EZE though

Well yeah, I'd assume so. That's a long one right there. Need a stop somewhere.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9348 times:

Great news for Buenos Aires.
Any chance the United States will ever get IL-96 service again?



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User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9082 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Great news for Buenos Aires.
Any chance the United States will ever get IL-96 service again?

It doesn´t seem to be a regular flight


User currently offlineAirstud From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2763 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9065 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Any chance the United States will ever get IL-96 service again?

Cool...when was there in fact IL-96 service in these United States?

That would have been cooooolovich...



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8626 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9063 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Any chance the United States will ever get IL-96 service again?

I doubt it , if I am not mistaken this could very nearly be the swansong for the IL96 in SU service as I was under the impression that they are being completely withdrawn before the end of this year ( can anyone confirm or refute this ?)



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8999 times:
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Are we talking of 19 hous and 15 minutes of time flight without stops? The range of the IL-96-300 is of 11000 Kms and the range of IL-96M is 10400 Kms.

As our colleague Transpac787 said, the distance is more than 13000 kilometers. Let me think... my bet is to see an intermediate stop at HAV or CCS.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8917 times:



Quoting Airstud (Reply 8):
Cool...when was there in fact IL-96 service in these United States?

I can't confim, but I vaguely remember seeing SU IL-96s in SEA sometime during the 90s. Can anyone confirm?


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8902 times:

The IL96 has served LAX and SEA in the past.


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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8873 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 10):
et me think... my bet is to see an intermediate stop at HAV or CCS.

SID or DKR would make more sense, distance-wise at least



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User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8862 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 10):
As our colleague Transpac787 said, the distance is more than 13000 kilometers. Let me think... my bet is to see an intermediate stop at HAV or CCS.

HAV and CCS are on the wrong side of the Atlantic. The great circle map routing takes it over CMN and SID. In fact SID is about halfway between SVO and EZE.

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=s...E=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=

Quoting Airstud (Reply 8):
when was there in fact IL-96 service in these United States?

I remember seeing the IL-86 and IL-96 on rare occasions flying into IAD in the mid 90's. It was usually IL-62's back then.


User currently offlinePylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7966 times:

The news is great - I am going to go to Argentina this winter.

Most probably it is going to be via Havana.
This flight used to be SVO-HAV-LIM.

On the other hand flights to Cuba are on 767-300ER.
So there is space for speculation here  Smile)

Caracas would be another great news!


User currently offlineSFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7330 times:



Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 12):
The IL96 has served LAX and SEA in the past.

I took it SFO-SEA-SVO.
Polar route. Was pretty cool.



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User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6968 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 9):
I was under the impression that they are being completely withdrawn before the end of this year

- not long ago appropriate Russian Ministry decided to stop their production, although: 1. it was said that immediate new orders will be still fulfilled (and some orders followed); 2. the decision didn't change much anyway, as to that moment only 19 airframes were produced for 20 years or so.

But I don't remember anything about their withdrawal from service.


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6879 times:



Quoting Airstud (Reply 8):
Cool...when was there in fact IL-96 service in these United States?

SU used the IL-96 to SEA/SFO/LAX for several years, before dropping SEA/SFO and changing to the 763 to LAX.


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User currently offlineLxmd11 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6869 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 4):

According to wikipedia the range for an Il 96-300 with max fuel is 13,500km. I know this isnt a great source but i can beleive that. But they would probably have to stop because 19 miles to spare isnt much and they probably want to carry something too  Big grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL96


User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1907 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6687 times:

It is impossible to do non-stop, they will do a tech stop in SID.......

IMO the Aircraft data page in this web is much better than Wiki..

http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=253


User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6582 times:

While we all banter about wondering about the legs of the IL-96, has anyone thought of why this flight might even be taking place? Sounds like a charter to me, why would there be a week's time difference until the return flight?

Cheers
Ian


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5740 times:
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Considering the plane will stay 1 week in Argentina i believe could be a leisure group.

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 21):
Sounds like a charter to me, why would there be a week's time difference until the return flight?

I think the same.



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User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

http://www.airlineroute.net/2009/09/...-time-nonstop-to-buenos-aires.html

Its already in this blog too....


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4923 times:
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Quoting Pylon101 (Reply 15):
Most probably it is going to be via Havana.
This flight used to be SVO-HAV-LIM.

On the other hand flights to Cuba are on 767-300ER.
So there is space for speculation here )

Caracas would be another great news!

Any chance to see this IL-96 in South America as a demonstration to other airlines (read as Conviasa, Aerosur,...) to sell this aircraft?

Regards,

Gerard



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25 Pylon101 : Actually, I don't see any reason for Aeroflot to fly to EZE. Tourist flow is weak. Business is steady but also can't create much traffic. Even Rio can
26 Aeroflot777 : After the IL-96 was dropped on the SEA/SFO, the Boeing 772 was used on the route for quite some time. SFO and SEA saw quite a bit of a/c over its tim
27 Addd : No - apparently (according to Russian aviation forums), it is a charter flight bringinig Gazprom (Russian gas monopoly) delegation to the World Gas C
28 Argentina : 03OCT SAT MOW/Z‡4 BUE/-7 SU4351 J C Y SVOEZE 2350 1205‡1 IL9 L/ 0 10OCT SAT BUE/Z-3 MOW/‡7 SU4352 J C Y EZESVO 1500 1635‡1 IL9 L/ 0
29 123 : Would not surprise me... AeroSur's 743 "Torisimo" is no longer operating, I just saw it yesterday @VVI ramp, without logos (green tail/white fusselag
30 RAFVC10 : Hi 123, and what about operations to MAD? Will be operated with the A330 wet-leased from Air Comet? Regards, Gerard
31 Argentina : According to EZE Airpirt webpage (www.aa2000.com.ar) SU 4351 arrived at 13.09 today. It says MOSCOW via SAL, in Cape Verde. MOSCOW RUSSIA SHEREMETYEVO
32 EZEIZA : It did! I went to EZE to see the beast and I managed to take a couple of pictures of it
33 LipeGIG : In fact in South America, Rio (GIG) would be the best choice for a flight from Russia. First because the leisure market, second because the business
34 Aeroflot777 : Can you please share them with us? Aeroflot777
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