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Thumbs Up To BA/Iberia Deal

BA1978 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 181 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5475 times:

The chief executive of British Airways has told Sky News that the proposed merger with Iberia will go ahead and may well be finalised before the end of the year

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...rough_And_Pay_Row_Must_Be_Resolved

There are other ways and there's British Airways

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PARAPENTE From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1316 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5288 times:

There is a lot in the article.Since he was clearly talking "on the record" the deal with Iberia must be a "done deal" or e;se he is stupid - which I do not believe he is. Added to that he is clearly optimistic about the joint tickrting arrangements with AA. And finally taking the unions om head on.Its really make or break time.

I hope he pulls all 3 off.

Dano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5094 times:

After watching Willie Walsh on Sky News last night, he certainly does look like a man in control, and very assured of himself, considering what must be in his diary.

Crew industrial relations
Keeping costs under control
BA/IB meger
BA/AA Anti-trust immunity
BA/AA/Oneworld proposed cash injection/controlling stake into JAL
The Proposed BA/BMI take over.

Now i'm not saying he is doing it all single handedly, but as far as the shareholders are concerned, the buck stops with him.

Quoting PARAPENTE (Reply 1):

Children should only be allowed on aircraft if 1. Muzzled and heavily sedated 2. Go as freight

Bongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3019 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4925 times:

Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 2):
After watching Willie Walsh on Sky News last night, he certainly does look like a man in control, and very assured of himself, considering what must be in his diary.

Crew industrial relations
Keeping costs under control
BA/IB meger
BA/AA Anti-trust immunity
BA/AA/Oneworld proposed cash injection/controlling stake into JAL
The Proposed BA/BMI take over.

If he pulls off even half of this lot, there's going to be some very unhappy members of Anet stirthepot

I.e. all those who keep posting that he's nothing but an incompetent from the bogs, determined to run BA nto the ground.

BA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 3):

Well i for one think the only bad thing in that list could arise from keeping costs under control, but in fairness he'll do what he can to keep the carrier profitable.

I can put it quite simply:

The staff need to accept that their contracts must change to keep the company afloat and thus their jobs secure

Costs should be cut but without losing the essence of BA. It is a full service carrier and must maintain that. I fear that the line between full service and low cost is going to be blurred in terms of BA.

BA/IB merger should go ahead, as should the anti trust immunity.

BA should be wary of the black hole that is JAL, make sure that they have minimal investment and maximum gain from the outcome.

Take on the BMI brand and use the BMI brand to mop up routes that don't require full service. Turn BD into a Low cost outfit that can operate any exBA routes that didn't justify or require the BA service. Use any spare slots from LHR to focus on what little premium traffic it can, and ultimately scale down its premium operations, in favour of more BD LCC services until the economy picks up.

I make it sound simple; of course I realise it's incredibly difficult to put things like that into practice.

BA787

Yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 2):
BA/AA/Oneworld proposed cash injection/controlling stake into JAL

Cash injection and influence gained, yes, if they can beat out SkyTeam.
A controlling stake seems to me far-fetched. Do you have a source for this? (curious)

yeo

La pierre qui roule n'amasse pas mousse

PRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Great news! Great news for oneworld and AA! Let's hope AA/BA/IB takes form; it should! Everyone else has antitrust and LHR has been opened...it's about time. DL/AF/KL dominates CDG, AMS...Star/UAL "owns" FRA, VIE, MUC, etc. There's room for all...yeah! Smile

BOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1887 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

So this is an LH/LX or AF/KL-type merger, right? I imagine that it would have to be. This is good for OneWorld since it keeps LH away.

Dano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

Quoting Yeogeo (Reply 5):

That was an error on my behalf, and i apologise.

Children should only be allowed on aircraft if 1. Muzzled and heavily sedated 2. Go as freight

OzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4682 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

I hope Finnair makes a similar play for MALEV, but has that even been broached? A little cross-investment BA/IB and AY/ MA and oneworld has a fairly solid Euro-presence that's defensible from the LH and AF/KL juggernauts. There's not much left to buy in Europe that fits the legacy business model, and oneworld needs to shore up Europe.

Be they green or be they red....OZARK DC-9'S!

Yeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 790 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 8):

no problem. just looking for new sources
yeo

La pierre qui roule n'amasse pas mousse

MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

How will the seniority at both airlines work out? I am curious to see if BA/IB does anything like US/HP and NW/DL are doing. What will be the fleet plans be like?

KH

Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.

PanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 11):
How will the seniority at both airlines work out? I am curious to see if BA/IB does anything like US/HP and NW/DL are doing. What will be the fleet plans be like?

I'd imagine they'd do what KL/AF did and keep the pilot groups and fleets separate. No country wants to lose their national airline.

heroes get remembered but legends never die

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