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Allegiant Announces Wichita To Phoenix/Mesa  
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2996 times:

Allegiant announced Wichita to Phoenix/Mesa this morning. Flights start November 20.

The flight takes advantage of a change in the Wichita market.

The start date is less than 3 weeks after USAir plans to end ICT-PHX flights on Mesa. I believe the US flights end on Nov 1.

The schedule will operate initially Monday/Friday.
dep Phoenix-Mesa 8:35 AM arr Wichita 11:45 AM
dep Wichita 12:25 PM arr Phoenix-Mesa 1:45 PM

http://www.allegiantair.com/aaNews/aaNews20090930a.php


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User currently offlineYVPHX From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2834 times:

There is an excellent chance that Allegiant will do a fantastic job at making money on this route. When I load/unload bags from the ICT flights, they average 60 bags per RJ900. I know Allegiant has very competitive rates, but this is just another route they will make more money on than any other legacy carriers!

User currently offlineBP1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

Another clear reason to see that the Allegiant model is working at PHX Mesa and let's not also forget the 8 Million USD that was just awarded to the airport by the government to expand the terminal (they need it - if you have ever checked in for a flight there the line snakes down to the baggage claim area)!

Glad to see one airline understands the value of PHX Mesa Gateway Airport.

Cheers,
BP1



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User currently offlineCrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2763 times:

Good for Allegiant.  thumbsup 

As far as I know, G4 is often overlooked by other airlines, in that they aren't seriously regarded as competitors. One has to wonder though, when or if that's going to change. With Allegiant's recent rate of expansion, it's hard to overlook them and I'ms ure that in many cases, they take away revenue from the big airlines. Here is just another example of G4 picking up where another airline left off.

At the rate that G4 is expanding, combine this with WN's presense in PHX, and we have some major hub encroachment for US!


User currently offlineMfricke From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 2616 times:

I am surprised that US Airways would be discontinuing PHX-ICT flights, for two reasons. One, this is one route that WN does not fly from PHX, so US would have a much better share of the market than on other routes out of PHX where they either fly it in direct competition with WN or with another carrier. Second, and more for nostalgic reasons, PHX-ICT was one of the original routes that America West started out of the PHX hub in 1983. Their routes were very simple; PHX to ONT, LAX, LAS, ICT, COS, OMA and ABQ. I assume that US does not see how ICT can be relevant to their eastern service, and have decided to drop it altogether?

On a side note, this would be the second time that US Air(ways) is discontinuing their service to ICT. After the PSA merger, US Air flew to ICT from PIT, LAX and used Air Midwest to connect to their MCI hub. Any hope that in time they will return to ICT?



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5902 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2553 times:
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Quoting Mfricke (Reply 4):
Second, and more for nostalgic reasons, PHX-ICT was one of the original routes that America West started out of the PHX hub in 1983. Their routes were very simple; PHX to ONT, LAX, LAS, ICT, COS, OMA and ABQ. I assume that US does not see how ICT can be relevant to their eastern service, and have decided to drop it altogether?

What I think is ironic about your statement here is that US Airways being run by the some of the old HP management.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2497 times:

US cutting ICT-PHX was not about being the only non-stop airline or market share.

"Spokeswoman Valerie Wunder says “sustained unprofitability” is the reason. “Wichita has been unprofitable for a number of years for U.S. Airways,” she says."
http://www.kansas.com/business/story/983607.html

G4's lower costs and lower frequency may be able to make money where US could not.



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User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2459 times:



Quoting Mfricke (Reply 4):
I am surprised that US Airways would be discontinuing PHX-ICT flights

I'm more surprised that G4 is only starting 2 days a week. But I guess no matter who just pulled out, they don't want to veer off their startup strategies. I'm sure they'll get great publicity as US pulls out and G4 comes in to "save the day."

[Edited 2009-10-01 08:55:11]

User currently offlineKstatepilot From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

This is good news! However I am still surprtised that US is stopping ICT service. Everytime I am on that flight I have to sit in the jumpseat. Two years ago they could fill up 2 900's a day, now it is down to only one 200 on some days. But it is still full!! Added to that the prices are expensive from ICT.

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