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Can A B 767-300/400ER Fly From SFO To Hkg?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9188 posts, RR: 15
Posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 534 times:

Hello!

I have a question. I would like to know whether or not a B 767-300ER and a B 767-400ER can fly from San Francisco to Hong Kong?

I still remember one time, UAL used a B 767-300ER to transport its passengers from Kai Tak, HKG to LAX in 1996 while its B 747-400 had an engine failure on the runway.

So does anyone know whether or not a B 767-300ER or a B 767-400ER can fly from San Francisco to Hong Kong?


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User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1916 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 470 times:

Didn't you answer your own question??

The real question is if it can be done profitably, without severe weight restrictions, which i doubt.

BlatantEcho



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9188 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 462 times:

I am not sure whether or not they stopped over somewhere.

So can these two aircraft fly from HKG to SFO nonstop?


User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 448 times:

If a 767-300 can fly HKG-LAX non-stop like you said, then 763 can fly HKG-SFO non-stop FOR SURE.

I think the distance between HKG-SFO is shorter than HKG-LAX.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9188 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 437 times:

Yup.

 Smile

But I am not sure whether they did it non-stop or not.


User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 437 times:

I don't think any B767 can fly around 14-15 hours nonstop! By the way, what about ETOPS?

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9188 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 421 times:

ETOPS is not a problem I guess. Coz the B 777-200ER is ETOPS certified.  Smile

Umm............. what about the Shelved B 767-400LR? Can it fly that far?



User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 419 times:

767-300ER could easily fly SFO-HKG none stop. Except I am not sure if 763 are 240ETOP?

User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 411 times:

I don't think any B763 is ETOPS-207 certified, and ETOPS-230 doesn't exist at all right now.
It can fly it nonstop, but only on delivery or for any other purpose, but not with 230 pax and cargo on board. Ever heard of a fully loaded B763 flight over 14 hours on regular schedule? I haven't...


User currently offlineMartyS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 400 times:

Just a thought - there's this thing called the Boeing web site that publishes the ranges of their aircraft and, I would assume that the distance between HKG and SFO doesn't fluctuate a whole bunch and is, therefore, a known figure. I'll bet a bunch of smart guys like you could figure out whether one of these numbers is larger than the other or not.

Regards,
Marty


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9188 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 368 times:

If that's the case, UAL can use the B 767-300ER for its SEA-HKG route, then to KUL. Or from somewhere in the States to NRT, then to KUL.



User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 646 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 342 times:

When i go primary school in Kolwoon City, i occaisonaly saw Canadian use 767-300ER instead od it's 747-400, so HKG-SFO, no problem!!!


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User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 343 times:

Well, I'm not exactly sure about flying from SFO to HKG, but last year, my dad flew a CP B-767-300 from YVR to NRT.
While I don't know what the difference in distance between SFO-HKG and YVR-NRT is, I know that it is a relativley long trip.
BTW, it was a nonstop flight.

AC_B777



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User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 325 times:

Don't forget that going westward, you have headwinds to consider, while going eastward, like the UA 767-300ER example, you have tailwinds which are helping you.

User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 318 times:

The great circle distance between SFO and HKG is 6019nm. The max range of a B767-300ER with a typical load and PW4060 engines is 6060nm. Now saying it can do it because it has 41nm more range than needed is a bit optimistic, actually, a lot more than a "bit." Planes don't fly in straight lines, winds aren't 0, and payload isn't always "typical." So, I'd say it could make it nonstop with very favorable tailwinds and a light load. Otherwise, no, it is not possible.