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AA Domestic First - Couple Of Questions  
User currently offlineSpeedbirdegjj From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

Afternoon All,

I have just booked a F ticket DFW-IAH for later this month as the tier points aquired will provide enough to reach BA Exec Silver level, for £160 o/w.

I have searched all over and find either sketchy or inconclusive evidence of the following which im hoping someone in the know can clarify.

1. Does a domestic First ticket on such a route give lounge access?

2. What kind of on board service would there be?.

I was imagining something similar to a BA Club Europe LHR-CDG for example with lounge access and cold meal, but perhaps not?

Any replies greatly appreciated

Cheers
Ryan

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User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

I'm sure someone will come along with an answer shortly, but in my experience, a great source for this type of information is www.flyertalk.com. It's pretty much an Airliners.net for people who travel a lot.

Checko



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3316 times:

Free drinks, maybe some pretzels or peanuts. You'll likely spend more time on the ground than in the air on that sector, since the air time is less than one hour.

I take it you will be on an MD-80, which has a somewhat narrow F seat, but is super-quiet up front. I like them, but don't expect anything in the way of onboard service outside of a Coke and a smile!


User currently offlineSpeedbirdegjj From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3277 times:

Thanks for the replies guys, i knd of thought as much, so i can presume no lounge access then?

And thanks Checko i had tried FT but couldnt find any info on a similar sector lenght only transcons etc

Cheers
Ryan


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8748 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3252 times:



Quoting CODC10 (Reply 2):
I take it you will be on an MD-80

AA also operates DFW-IAH with the B738. The flight time is usually around 45 minutes.


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3589 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3155 times:



Quoting Speedbirdegjj (Reply 3):
Thanks for the replies guys, i knd of thought as much, so i can presume no lounge access then?

No lounge access for domestic F class DFW-IAH.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3149 times:

AA is pretty good about serving meals in First, even on short flights like ORD-LGA, but 45 minutes definitely does not have a meal

Quoting Speedbirdegjj (Reply 3):
Thanks for the replies guys, i knd of thought as much, so i can presume no lounge access then?

No lounge access unless you are on the flight as part of an international itinerary, an Admiral's Club member, have an American Express Platinum charge card (charge, not credit), or is OneWorld Emerald or Sapphire, with the status acquired through an airline other than AA.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2973 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
or is OneWorld Emerald or Sapphire, with the status acquired through an airline other than AA.

How can the lounge attendant tell whether the cardholder earned their status miles from AA as opposed to another Oneworld carrier?

Also, while on that subject, I've always been curious why Oneworld uses such strange terminology as Emerald and Sapphire for status levels rather than the more usual Silver/Gold/Platinum etc.


User currently offlineCrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2959 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
How can the lounge attendant tell whether the cardholder earned their status miles from AA as opposed to another Oneworld carrier?

Because the passenger will have a status card issued by his airline with that airline's logo on it.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
Also, while on that subject, I've always been curious why Oneworld uses such strange terminology as Emerald and Sapphire for status levels rather than the more usual Silver/Gold/Platinum etc.

My guess is because each airline within Oneworld uses its own terminology for different elite levels so the Emerald/Sapphire/Ruby status is just a Oneworld-common term.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2927 times:



Quoting Crosswinds21 (Reply 8):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
How can the lounge attendant tell whether the cardholder earned their status miles from AA as opposed to another Oneworld carrier?

Because the passenger will have a status card issued by his airline with that airline's logo on it.

My question was, for example, if someone was an IB/LA/JL FFP member with Sapphire or Emerald status, how would an AA lounge attendant know whether the status was acquired from flying carriers other than AA and not from flying AA.. MAH4546 said that for AA lounge access with a Oneworld Emerald/Sapphire card, the status miles had to be earned from flying carriers other than AA. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting.


User currently offlineCrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2912 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
My question was, for example, if someone was an IB/LA/JL FFP member with Sapphire or Emerald status, how would an AA lounge attendant know whether the status was acquired from flying carriers other than AA and not from flying AA.. MAH4546 said that for AA lounge access with a Oneworld Emerald/Sapphire card, the status miles had to be earned from flying carriers other than AA. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting.

Oh ok, I understand your question. What MAH4546 was saying is that it's all about who issued your card. For purposes of gaining access to Admiral's Clubs on domestic US itineraries, the only way to do this would be to be a OW Emerald or Sapphire member with any airline other than AA. So if you have a card issued by AY or RJ or QF then you're good. If it's issued by AA, then it's a no go.

Now, different OW airlines have different criteria to earn Emerald or Sapphire status. It doesn't mean that, for example, if your primary FF program is with QF then you have to only fly QF to gain status. QF FF members can fly any OW airline (including AA) and earn miles towards status. (Although when you are flying a partner airline then in some cases not all fare classes earn miles but that's a different story.) So in the example you used, if someone is a IB/LA/JL frequent flyer, he probably wouldn't collect miles to different account. He would probably have a primary FF program - say, LA - and collect miles for all his IB/LA/JL flights there. Then, once he'd have enough EQMs, he'd get Oneworld status and get a card issued by LA.

I hope that makes sense.  Smile


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2839 times:



Quoting Crosswinds21 (Reply 10):
Oh ok, I understand your question. What MAH4546 was saying is that it's all about who issued your card.

Thanks. All clear now!


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1884 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

Well, there won't be any meal services between IAH and DFW at all! In general, most US airlines won't offer a meal service until the flight is above two hours.

There will be a full beverage service, accompanied by a bag of AA premium snack mix.

Carfield


User currently offlineCrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2769 times:



Quoting Carfield (Reply 12):
Well, there won't be any meal services between IAH and DFW at all! In general, most US airlines won't offer a meal service until the flight is above two hours.

There will be a full beverage service, accompanied by a bag of AA premium snack mix.

Carfield

Although, as pointed out in this thread, AA is much better than other US airlines in terms of meal service. AA will, on some routes, serve a meal when the flight time is below the minimum required for a meal. Oftentimes, it will be hot meals as well. Certainly better than DL, where I think the minimum flight time for a meal is 3.5 hours and eevn then, it may be a cold meal IIRC.


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