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OAG Changes 10/1/09:AA/B6/CO/DL/FL/NW/UA/US/YX  
User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10653 times:

As usual this is versus what was for sale last week, not versus last year.

How to read:
AAA-BBB 6>5 NOV- means a reduction of one roundtrip from 6 to 5 in the selling schedule effective in November.
AAA-BBB 1>0 DEC means the service is canceled for December only.
AAA-BBB 0>2 JAN-MAR means service has been added for the period of Jan to March where previously none was for sale.

I am eliminating the CXLD, NEW, etc notes because people wanted to debate what should be in each category.

These are average flights over a month, so fractions generally mean the flight isn't daily. In the cases of the major schedule changes I didn't go through and round them as I usually do. Also, this was a massive change so please take it easy on any typos I may have made!


AA
These changes generally occur in the Apr/May 2010 timeframe
DFW-ANC 0.0>0.6
DFW-EGE 1.0>0.0
JFK-CMH 0.0>1.0
JFK-CUN 2.0>1.0
JFK-MAD 0.0>1.0
JFK-MAN 0.0>0.6
JFK-SJO 0.0>0.7
JFK-SXM 1.0>0.5
MIA-BHM 0.0>2.0
MIA-CUN 5.0>4.0
MIA-PNS 0.0>2.0
MIA-TPA 6.0>5.0
ORD-ANC 0.0>0.6
ORD-CRW 0.0>2.0
ORD-DAY 0.0>3.0
ORD-DME 0.7>0.0
ORD-FAR 0.0>3.0
ORD-FSD 0.0>2.8
ORD-HNL 0.0>0.7
ORD-JAX 0.0>3.0
ORD-LEX 0.0>2.0
ORD-MDT 0.0>3.0
ORD-PEK 0.0>1.0
ORD-YYC 0.0>1.0
SJU-IAD 0.0>1.0
STL-ATL 3.7>0.0
STL-AUS 1.0>0.0
STL-BNA 3.0>0.0
STL-DSM 2.7>0.0
STL-EWR 3.7>0.0
STL-IAD 1.8>0.0
STL-ICT 1.8>0.0
STL-IND 3.7>0.0
STL-JAX 2.0>0.0
STL-MCO 1.0>0.0
STL-MKE 1.8>0.0
STL-MSN 1.0>0.0
STL-MSP 5.0>0.0
STL-MSY 4.0>0.0
STL-OKC 1.8>0.0
STL-ORF 2.0>0.0
STL-RDU 3.0>0.0
STL-RIC 2.0>0.0
STL-SAT 1.0>0.0
STL-SEA 2.0>1.0
STL-SFO 1.0>0.0

B6
BOS-MBJ 0>1/WK JAN-
MCO-MBJ 0>1 FEB-

CO
EYW-RSW 6>0 NOV-

DL
ATL-EYW 4>3
(when mainline was rushed into the schedule to respond to FL, it was a dupe time to an existing CR7 which has now been deleted leaving 2 CR7 and 1 73W)
ATL-FSD 1>0 DEC-
ATL-GPT 7>8 DEC-
ATL-KIN 2/WK>1 FEB- (Freq also increases over Holidays)
ATL-SAT 8>9 JAN-
ATL-SGF 3>4 JAN-
CVG-BDL 3.8>2.8 DEC-
CVG-GSO 2.8>1.8 DEC-
CVG-HSV 1.8>1.0 DEC-
CVG-IND 4.7>4.0 DEC-
CVG-MKE 3.7>2.8 DEC-
CVG-MSP 6.0>5.0 DEC-
CVG-STL 3.5>2.7 DEC-
CVG-TRI 2.5>1.5 DEC-
CVG-TUL 1.0>0.0 DEC-
CVG-XNA 1.8>1.0 DEC-
LAX-GDL 1>0 JAN-MAR
LGA-SLC 0>1/WK FEB-MAR (Sat perimeter exemption)

FL
ATL-BKG 2.0>1.0 DEC- (Need a bigger subsidy?)
ATL-BOS 4.9>4.0 DEC-
ATL-CMH 3.0>2.0 DEC-
ATL-DFW 6.7>5.7 DEC-
ATL-DTW 4.0>3.0 DEC-
ATL-JAX 5.0>4.0 DEC-
ATL-LAS 4.0>3.0 DEC-
ATL-MCO 11.0>10.1 DEC-
ATL-MDW 7.5>6.5 DEC-
ATL-MEM 4.9>3.9 DEC-
ATL-PNS 4.0>3.0 DEC-
ATL-RIC 4.9>3.9 DEC-
BWI-PWM 3>2 DEC-
MCO-BKG 0>1/WK DEC-
MCO-PHL 2>3 DEC-
MCO-PIT 2>3 DEC-
MKE-LAS 3>2 DEC-
PHF-BOS 2>1 DEC-
RSW-CMH 1>2 DEC-

NW
DTW-BTV 2.0>3.0 DEC-
DTW-CAE 1.0>2.0 DEC-
DTW-EVV 1.8>2.8 DEC-
DTW-FSD 0.0>0.8 DEC-
DTW-GSO 1.8>2.8 DEC-
DTW-GSP 1.8>2.8 DEC-
DTW-LAN 6.5>7.4 DEC-
DTW-MBJ 0.2>0.3 DEC-
DTW-MHT 2.8>3.8 DEC-
DTW-PVD 3.8>4.8 DEC-
MEM-ICT 2.8>1.8 DEC-
MEM-LAS 1.5>1.7 DEC-
MEM-LAX 2.5>2.8 DEC-
MEM-SGF 2.8>1.8 DEC-
MSP-ATW 4.8>3.8 DEC-
MSP-GRR 4.8>5.8 DEC-

UA
DEN-RDM 0>1 FEB- (EXTENDED AGAIN)
DEN-SGF 0>1 DEC-

US
PHX-HNL 1>2 MAR-

YX
FLL-MKE 0>1 DEC-
MCI-RSW 0>1 DEC- (DOESN'T GET TO DAILY UNTIL MAR)

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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10632 times:



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
CO
EYW-RSW 6>0 NOV-

End of the Cape Air Florida operation?



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User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10489 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
End of the Cape Air Florida operation?

They have plenty of other stuff, it is probably related to the entry of FL into MCO-EYW.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10408 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 2):
it is probably related to the entry of FL into MCO-EYW.

Why would a new MCO flight impact on a RSW service?



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User currently offlineMKENut From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 699 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10371 times:

Sad to see the former TWA hub in STL dismantled by AA.

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10270 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 2):
They have plenty of other stuff, it is probably related to the entry of FL into MCO-EYW.

According to the cape air website, RSW-EYW was the only route left in Florida.



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3717 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10243 times:



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
DTW-EVV 1.8>2.8 DEC-

Maybe related to the axing of EVV-MEM?



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User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10158 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 3):

Why would a new MCO flight impact on a RSW service?

MCO impacts all of Central Florida. Look at poor MLB/DAB/GNV. When MCO gets new low fare service to somewhere it hurts everything else.

It probably already sucked and this was the last straw.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 5):
According to the cape air website, RSW-EYW was the only route left in Florida.

Then I may be wrong about that.  Smile

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 6):
Maybe related to the axing of EVV-MEM?

There was definitely a gentle shift out of CVG in this realignment of the DL/NW network, although not a giant one.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22721 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10127 times:



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
CVG-BDL 3.8>2.8 DEC-
CVG-GSO 2.8>1.8 DEC-
CVG-HSV 1.8>1.0 DEC-
CVG-IND 4.7>4.0 DEC-
CVG-MKE 3.7>2.8 DEC-
CVG-MSP 6.0>5.0 DEC-
CVG-STL 3.5>2.7 DEC-
CVG-TRI 2.5>1.5 DEC-
CVG-TUL 1.0>0.0 DEC-
CVG-XNA 1.8>1.0 DEC-

These changes sort of remind me of what was happening in STL about 2 years ago.



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User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10065 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):
These changes sort of remind me of what was happening in STL about 2 years ago.

You are on the nose, but of course they are already down 50+% in CVG from their peak so I'm not surprised to see the trend continue.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6578 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10035 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 7):
MCO impacts all of Central Florida. Look at poor MLB/DAB/GNV. When MCO gets new low fare service to somewhere it hurts everything else.

Except RSW isn't in Central Florida. RSW is 205 miles from MCO. I doubt too many people in RSW are going to drive 205 miles north to MCO, just to fly back down to EYW...particulary when RSW-EYW is only a 300 mile drive.

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
ATL-BKG 2.0>1.0 DEC- (Need a bigger subsidy?)

More just seasonal reduction which FL does throughout much of their system...except for the sunshine destinations.


User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9963 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 10):

Except RSW isn't in Central Florida. RSW is 205 miles from MCO. I doubt too many people in RSW are going to drive 205 miles north to MCO, just to fly back down to EYW...particulary when RSW-EYW is only a 300 mile drive.

Sorry, but the coincidence is too much.

I think you'd find a surprising number of RSW passengers drive to MCO. I bet they lose 50% of their traffic to TPA and MCO.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22721 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9883 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 9):
but of course they are already down 50+% in CVG from their peak so I'm not surprised to see the trend continue.

 checkmark 

Today, I'd say that CVG contributes less to the Delta network than STL contributes to the AA network - and we know what is happening to STL.



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6578 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9762 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 11):
I bet they lose 50% of their traffic to TPA and MCO.

But why? RSW has a substantial amount of LCC service on its own. Every major LCC serves RSW in some capacity. In 2008, RSW had almost 3.8 million enplanements ranking it as the 50th busiest airport in the country. This despite having a metro area that is less than 1 million people.

If they were really losing 50% of their traffic to MCO/TPA, that would mean they should have enplanement numbers near 7.6 million. But it's highly unlikely that a non-hub metro area like RSW would produce that type of traffic given its economy/population.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):
Today, I'd say that CVG contributes less to the Delta network than STL contributes to the AA network

I don't know if I'd go that far, but CVG is certainly headed down that path.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9654 times:



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
LAX-GDL 1>0 JAN-MAR

Man. The second largest US-Mexico market, and Delta just cant make this work and has to resort to part time service.



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9534 times:
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Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
UA
DEN-RDM 0>1 FEB- (EXTENDED AGAIN)
DEN-SGF 0>1 DEC-

SkyWest and Trans States have and still fly the DEN-SGF route as UA Express. And there was no discontinuation at anytime either.



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User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8918 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 11):
I think you'd find a surprising number of RSW passengers drive to MCO. I bet they lose 50% of their traffic to TPA and MCO.

I'd bet they don't. First of all, WN flies many dailies on RSW-MCO. I doubt they'd go to TPA as well as it is over two hours away. RSW is pretty well off with WN, B6, and FL plus the legacies. So I'd challenge you to them losing 50% of their traffic to MCO and TPA, but especially MCO, when a direct route doesn't even exist and driving time is more than three hours. Absolutely 100% not worth it at all!



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1185 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8466 times:



Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 15):
Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
UA
DEN-RDM 0>1 FEB- (EXTENDED AGAIN)
DEN-SGF 0>1 DEC-

SkyWest and Trans States have and still fly the DEN-SGF route as UA Express. And there was no discontinuation at anytime either.

I think he meant DEN-SDF, as it is a new route on UA Express (Air Wisconsin) starting Dec. 17.


User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 8325 times:



Quoting 747fan (Reply 17):
I think he meant DEN-SDF, as it is a new route on UA Express (Air Wisconsin) starting Dec. 17.

Close, it's actually UAX/SkyWest.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5448 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7849 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 11):
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 10):

Except RSW isn't in Central Florida. RSW is 205 miles from MCO. I doubt too many people in RSW are going to drive 205 miles north to MCO, just to fly back down to EYW...particulary when RSW-EYW is only a 300 mile drive.

Sorry, but the coincidence is too much.

I think you'd find a surprising number of RSW passengers drive to MCO. I bet they lose 50% of their traffic to TPA and MCO.

I would be curious to meet the people who drive 200 miles north to catch a flight rather than drive 300 miles to be a their destination. Yes, I'm sure they exist, but unless the catchment area of RSW is that big, and the market to EYW is that great, I just can't see one service impacting the other. But stranger things have happened.

Thank you for taking the time to do this update.

-Dave



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User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7826 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):

Today, I'd say that CVG contributes less to the Delta network than STL contributes to the AA network - and we know what is happening to STL.

Probably...

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 14):
Man. The second largest US-Mexico market, and Delta just cant make this work and has to resort to part time service.

I don't get the impression that DL has achieved much of a brand in LAX to begin with. I would also add that the GDL market is not exactly a business market, so I'm not sure how it fits with their strategy.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 13):
But it's highly unlikely that a non-hub metro area like RSW would produce that type of traffic given its economy/population.

RSW is a sun-seeker market. 85% of the traffic is inbound so the population of the city bear little relevance. LAS and MCO's population have no bearing on traffic either.

One of the reasons RSW leaks so much traffic, IMHO, is that it has one of peakiest schedules in America. There are as few as 70 daily flights in low season and ~145 in March.

Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 16):
First of all, WN flies many dailies on RSW-MCO.

Actually WN has 9.5 flights per day and that makes it the 5th smallest WN station, behind CRP, JAN, LGA, MAF and then RSW which is tied with 3 other stations for the honor of being 5th.

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 15):

SkyWest and Trans States have and still fly the DEN-SGF route as UA Express. And there was no discontinuation at anytime either.



Quoting 747fan (Reply 17):
I think he meant DEN-SDF, as it is a new route on UA Express (Air Wisconsin) starting Dec. 17.

747Fan was right. My fat finger drifted two keys East. It should be :

DEN-SDF 0>1 DEC-


User currently offlineNwafan20 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7823 times:

Glad to see service only increased to DTW, no decrease. *sarcasm* I guess DL has no idea what they are doing since they haven't dismantled DTW as a hub, since the automakers are failing */sarcasm*

But seriously, good news for DTW.



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User currently offlineBTVB6Flyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7782 times:



Quoting Nwafan20 (Reply 21):
But seriously, good news for DTW.

Yes I'm glad to see BTV-DTW increased to 3X daily, to bad they couldn't through in a CR9 on one of the flights. But I'll take the positve gain any how.


User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7585 times:



Quoting Nwafan20 (Reply 21):
I guess DL has no idea what they are doing since they haven't dismantled DTW as a hub

I think we might start to see MEM come unraveled in the months to come if the economy doesn't perk up. That's the next weakest hub in America with CLE inches behind.

If you think about regions here is what is left of the *legacy* hubs IMHO. This is according to my definition of a hub. Hope I didn't miss anything. Interesting that the Midwest is basically where all hubs have died in the last 10 years...although it also had the most hubs.  Smile I ranked the survivors by what I consider to be "strength/value" as a hub.

Midwest
UA ORD
DL DTW
AA ORD
CO CLE
DEAD AA STL
DEAD US PIT
DEAD DL CVG

Middle America
AA DFW
CO IAH
DL MSP
UA DEN
DL MEM
NO DEATHS (since CO in DEN circa 1995)

West
US PHX
DL SLC
UA SFO
AS PDX
DEAD US LAS

South
DL ATL
US CLT
AA MIA
NO DEATHS (since AA RDU in 1990s)

Northeast
CO EWR
US PHL
UA IAD
DL JFK
NO DEATHS (US BWI in 1990s, CO IAD early 1990s)

You know what else is interesting? Of the newer LCCs (thus excluding WN), there is a Northeast hub (B6, kind of FL), a South hub (FL), a Western hub (kind of VX), a Middle America hub (F9), but no Midwest hub despite the massive shakeout.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22721 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7558 times:



Quoting Enilria (Reply 23):
I think we might start to see MEM come unraveled in the months to come if the economy doesn't perk up.

I think we'll see more cutting at CVG before we see much cutting at MEM, as MEM really isn't a hub that can function if they cut 30 or 40 flights from it. If they do that, the whole thing starts to fall in on itself. There's still fat left to cut at CVG.



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25 FlyPNS1 : But that's the nature of the market and has nothing to do with leakage. RSW sees a surge of snowbirds during the winter months, but there's little de
26 AVLAirlineFreq : And the death of AA's hub at BNA at the same time, of course.
27 AVLAirlineFreq : Could you add DL at MCO to that list, too?
28 Lexy : Yup! Also, I noticed the St. Louis flights on American Eagle ( STL-BNA-STL ) end. That's a shame because I am sure some would prefer to fly between t
29 Cubsrule : Correct, but CVG has five banks, while MEM only has three. If they want to cut more, eliminating a bank or two at CVG makes more sense than doing so
30 AVLAirlineFreq : That's one I've been waiting on for a while. I'm hoping this will finally be the trick.
31 Post contains links Atrude777 : Oh trust me, Business Folks are already booking STL-BNA on SWA, when I worked as CSA in STL we had a TON of BNA bound passengers out of STL, but they
32 Jetbluefan1 : Since it's 96 passengers round trip (48 each way) that travel between STL and BNA everyday, it seems to be a pretty small market. But with the averag
33 Post contains links Atrude777 : www.faremeasure.com states On average, 96 passengers travel the 271 miles between Lambert-Saint Louis International Airport to Nashville Internationa
34 GSP psgr : Dallas Love is the biggie that I can think of.
35 Enilria : Clearly CVG is on a downward trajectory that will continue, but clearly MEM is next on the chopping block. Not sure, whether they would euthanize CVG
36 ERJ170 : If I recall correctly, and I probably don't, they were both killed on the same day. BNA dismantelment went much quicker, with RDU lingering until Mid
37 AVLAirlineFreq : BNA died in the mid-1990s. I was still connecting through there in 1995 from AVL.
38 AVLAirlineFreq : By the way, Enliria, thanks for doing this. It is very interesting, although I know it must be very time consuming.
39 Lexy : That's intresting info my friend! I really appreciate that insight. I know I would much rather fly to STL than drive from BNA. I hate the drive alot.
40 ERJ170 : From the AA website.. American Eagle offers service to many destinations via our hub locations at New York (JFK and LaGuardia), Raleigh/Durham, Bosto
41 Atrude777 : I hear ya, try LIVING in southern illinois like I do! BNA-STL-DAL would be perfect!!! Alex
42 MAH4546 : How do routes from BDL, EWR, BOS and other Northeast cities fill up a Heathrow flight? RDU-LHR gets some feed from Miami and Dallas, but that's about
43 Lexy : Well, we both know that the BDL flight was marketed in two seperate ways: 1.) It was marketed to travelers as an alternative to the NYC airports and
44 Cubsrule : It's a decent-sized local market; AA carries about 80 local PDEW, which isn't bad, and yields were all right (AA's average fare is about $160 o/w on
45 Lexy : That's what I thought. I know there are a number of European intrest in that market and some other markets around BDL so I am sure that helped. I wis
46 Cubsrule : They probably get some MIA traffic on the evening southbound and mid-day northbound as well. BDL-MIA is only 1x/day, an RON at BDL.
47 STT757 : CO moved the IAD operation to EWR in 1986, as part of the PeoplExpress takeover. MCO was a huge station though for DL, close to 100 daily mainline fl
48 Enilria : Thanks, it is quite a bit of work. Interesting that STL is gone, but RDU is still there. So it's fair to say that the station never actually had much
49 ERJ170 : STL was an American Connection hub, but American Connection has been removed from the website all together.. I"m sure RDU will be removed in the futu
50 Cubsrule : When did AA say that? Today, it has nearly as many Eagle flights and mainline flights as Connection flights.
51 ERJ170 : Really? I didn't think American Eagle had a lot of flights at STL. I could be wrong.. But I was not considering mainline, just regional..
52 Cubsrule : RP's flying has remained relatively consistent even as AX has been eliminated. Actually, RP flying went down a little, as they went from 15 AAC frame
53 ERJ170 : I"m thinking monre about after the May cuts..
54 FWAERJ : After the May STL cuts, all 13 RP AmericanConnection ERJs are moving to ORD, as part of the massive May ORD flight boost by AA, and the RP STL crew b
55 Cubsrule : ...when STL will be 90% mainline.
56 AvConsultant : MCO was a hub for DL as outlined in the 90's in there annual reports. If DL defines MCO as a hub in a document to the Security and Exchange Commissio
57 Enilria : I'm not really buying that kind of hair splitting. It's got the AA code on it. That's enough for me. Nobody cares who the operators are except the FA
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OAG Changes 7/24/09:AA/AS/B6/CO/DL/F9/NW/UA/YX+ posted Wed Jul 22 2009 22:29:23 by Enilria
OAG Changes 4/3/09: AA/CO/DL/FL/NW posted Thu Apr 2 2009 20:59:27 by Enilria
OAG Changes 9/11/09: AA/AC/AM/CO/DL/FL posted Thu Sep 10 2009 15:43:15 by Enilria
OAG Changes 8/20/09: B6/CO/DL/NK/NW/VX posted Thu Aug 20 2009 08:00:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 8/14/09: AA/AS/DL/FL/NW/US/WG posted Thu Aug 13 2009 18:38:07 by Enilria
OAG Changes 6/06/09: AA/CO/F9/FL/NW/UA posted Thu Jun 4 2009 21:41:13 by Enilria
OAG Changes 3/27/09: AA/CO/DL/NW/UA posted Fri Mar 27 2009 06:15:35 by Enilria
OAG Changes: 7/31/09:AA/BA/DL/NK/NW/SY/US posted Fri Jul 31 2009 06:18:07 by Enilria