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WestJet "major" Non-stop Service Announcement YEG  
User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 685 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8434 times:

Newark? would that be a major announcement? That all I could think of, then again anything for Edmonton seems to be major at times.

On Thursday October 1, 2009, 7:03 pm EDT

CALGARY, Oct. 1 /CNW/ - Joined by Edmonton Mayor Stephen Mandel and Reg Milley, President and CEO of the Edmonton Airport Authority, WestJet will make a major announcement at Edmonton City Hall on Friday, October 2, 2009, regarding new non-stop service from Edmonton International Airport.

Date: Friday, October 2, 2009

Time: 1:00 p.m. MT

Location: Heritage Room
Main Floor
Edmonton City Hall
1 Sir Winston Churchill Square
Edmonton, AB

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User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8390 times:

I'm betting on EWR....But how will CO and AC feel about that?

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17411 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8352 times:

Has YEGOGG been announced already? Because I just saw it in the schedule.


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineHeathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8321 times:

Now we play the waiting game! YEG EWR would be interesting, even HNL.

User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8354 times:

Nope it hasn't. WS sked?

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17411 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8298 times:



Quoting Flyb (Reply 4):
Nope it hasn't. WS sked?

Yeah once a week starting in MAR10.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8204 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5):
Yeah once a week starting in MAR10.

Thats's not a major announcement!!!!


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8136 times:

I would expect it to be a sun destination given the timing. I don't think there would be enough NYC traffic but could be.

User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 999 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8041 times:

It has been announced, service from YEG to OGG.

They also announced YYC-HNL, YYC-OGG.

Won't these flights end up weight restricted? Or am I missing something here?

[Edited 2009-10-02 11:10:23]

[Edited 2009-10-02 11:10:53]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25098 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7979 times:



Quoting C172Akula (Reply 8):
It has been announced, service from YEG to OGG.

They also announced YYC-HNL, YYC-OGG.

And the flights operate for 2 months only, March and April.
http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/West...ui+stop+flights/2059626/story.html


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7969 times:

Sun destination as I suspected. There are an aweful lot of Albertans who escape winter in Hawaii so this makes sense. It will take some of the traffic from charter companies and no doubt WestJet will sell packages as well.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25098 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7894 times:



Quoting C172Akula (Reply 8):
Won't these flights end up weight restricted? Or am I missing something here?

YYC-HNL 2716 nm
YYC-OGG 2685 nm
YEG-OGG 2760 nm

Several other carriers operate the 737-700/800 on nonstop routes as long and in some cases longer. Those are standard aircraft, not BBJ's with extra fuel tanks.

PTY-MVD CM 737-700 - 2941 nm
PTY-EZE CM 737-700 - 2879 nm
HNL-NAN FJ 737-800 - 2748 nm (also CO 738 starting December 18)
NAN-GUM CO 737-800 - 2689 nm (starting December 18)


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7847 times:

^^^^ I am a bit confused.....why would this warrant a specific press release by WestJet that it would be making a Major anoucement at Edmonton CIty hall along with the mayor???

Besides, YEG has had service to OGG many times before with different carriers in the past.

So, I am still not too sure this is the Edmonton annoucement which is supposed to happen at 1 Mountain time


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25098 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7813 times:



Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 12):
Besides, YEG has had service to OGG many times before with different carriers in the past.

Charter only if not mistaken, not scheduled. I agree, in leisure markets like those the difference is fairly meaningless.


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7788 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):
Charter only if not mistaken, not scheduled. I agree, in leisure markets like those the difference is fairly meaningless.

AC offered regularly scheduled flights actually.....Air Transat, SkyService and Canada 3000 offered charter flights before!


User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7785 times:

Ha nice major announcement. Good on you Edmonton, you should have just read the Calgary Herald. Would have gotten the news earlier. lol Major my ass.

User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7755 times:



Quoting Flyb (Reply 15):
lol Major my ass

Well....the word MAJOR is on the WestJet Website...not something the Edmonton Airport announced...If anything, I wonder why WJ is making a big deal about it!!!!


User currently offlineWhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 782 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7638 times:
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Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 16):
Well....the word MAJOR is on the WestJet Website...not something the Edmonton Airport announced...If anything, I wonder why WJ is making a big deal about it!!!!

Because they missed the boat when AC announced it and they're trying to spin it into something its not. Non-stop except for the fuel stop in YVR or SFO or a major weight restriction.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
Several other carriers operate the 737-700/800 on nonstop routes as long and in some cases longer. Those are standard aircraft, not BBJ's with extra fuel tanks.

But on those routes do they have alternates along the way. No alternates from YVR to HNL/OOG.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17411 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7635 times:



Quoting C172Akula (Reply 8):
Won't these flights end up weight restricted? Or am I missing something here?

It is a long stage length but not long compared to some of CM's routes, but the runway in OGG is fairly short, and that would be the limiting factor eastbound I'd think.



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User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7591 times:

Well, the build up to this "major" announcement was just a tad overblown. The only thing worse would have been if they had used that over-used phrase "This announcement is so big, years from now you'll remember where you were when you heard it"

User currently offlineC172Akula From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 999 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7520 times:

A poster over at Avcanada on the Westjet forum says that the flights will be capped, at what number is not known yet.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25098 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7501 times:



Quoting Whiteguy (Reply 17):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
Several other carriers operate the 737-700/800 on nonstop routes as long and in some cases longer. Those are standard aircraft, not BBJ's with extra fuel tanks.

But on those routes do they have alternates along the way. No alternates from YVR to HNL/OOG.

What alternates are there HNL-NAN?


User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7428 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21):
What alternates are there HNL-NAN?

Gilligan's Island, and the island where Oceanic 815 crashed?


User currently offlineWhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 782 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7175 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21):
What alternates are there HNL-NAN?

Don't know, thats why I'm asking?


User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7146 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21):
What alternates are there HNL-NAN?

Probably Kiribati and Samoa?

Johnston Atoll would have been yet another emergency alternative, but it's been closed since 2004.


25 JaseWGTN : I think they use PLCH/Christmas Island as an enroute alternate
26 Pictues : they are going to hav e a european style J class apparently (blocking the middle seat)
27 Hawaiian763 : There's no surprise that WS would start a YYC-Hawaii route since AC announced a while back, but to start YEG-Hawaii will be interesting to see conside
28 Thenoflyzone : Not necessarily. The B737 with winglets can fly almost 7,200km's fully loaded. Without winglets, in can go 6,232km's. The B736 and B738 can go 5,600k
29 Whiteguy : Westjet themselves list the 700 with a rrange of 6100 km and 5600 for the 800 & 600. I believe the 800 is the only that is ETOPS rated for WS. I don'
30 Wjv04 : I second this There has been talk in the past internally at WS regarding the possiblity of using the 700's on routes such as YEG-OGG YYC-OGG. And ind
31 9252fly : What I find most interesting about this announcement is the start date,it's not until March or April of next year and the reasoning is that it's due t
32 Thenoflyzone : That's good news. They are going to need the extra range of the 737 in order to comfortably operate YEG-OGG. Thenoflyzone
33 Thenoflyzone : Don't forget that WestJet no longer has a contract with Transat holidays, like it did last winter. I am sure they could have found a few spare aircra
34 Hawaiian763 : I don't ever see that happening, considering what the winds are like some days over the Atlantic, I don't see the 738 making it,
35 Whiteguy : All the new routes that WS started were the same routes it was flying for AT with the same aircraft. If WS could make money on these Hawaii routes ou
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