KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12027 posts, RR: 43 Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3938 times:
Because they decided not to have them?
That being said, on my 757-300 flight to LAS on Monday, they showed a movie overhead. On the way back I have no idea as I was asleep before the main cabin door was closed
Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 854 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3925 times:
There is usually no IFE on any NW domestic flight, and most domestic aircraft in the fleet (DC30/40/50, A319, A320, 752) don't even have overhead monitors (they were either removed or delivered without them). The one exception is the 753, which flies to and from Hawaii; according to the NW website, movies are show on those flights. KaiGywer, I guess you got lucky on your flight to LAS on the 753! Hope the movie was good
International flights on 757, A330 and 747 all feature IFE in both classes (for the 757 and 747, PTVs are in World Business Class and overhead monitors in economy; A330 has PTVs at every seat in the aircraft).
There have been previous threads discussing whether Delta intends to install, or reinstall, IFE on at least some NW domestic aircraft as well.
Hope this helps!
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Michman From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 327 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3915 times:
Quoting Soxfan (Reply 2): KaiGywer, I guess you got lucky on your flight to LAS on the 753! Hope the movie was good Smile
NW has been running movies on the 753 on continental US flights for a number of months now. Not lucky at all, it's now standard for both Hawaii and continental US flights.
Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 854 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3666 times:
Quoting Michman (Reply 3): NW has been running movies on the 753 on continental US flights for a number of months now. Not lucky at all, it's now standard for both Hawaii and continental US flights.
Interesting! I didn't know that, but it makes sense since Delta offers movies on longer flights on its IFE-equipped aircraft. Thanks for the heads up
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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16824 posts, RR: 57 Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3611 times:
NW took the IFE out of their planes back in the early '90's.
I'm actually flying F-class on NW today, SFO-DTW and I'm a bit sad that I get no IFE. I hope the food's good.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12027 posts, RR: 43 Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3572 times:
Quoting Soxfan (Reply 2): Hope the movie was good Smile
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5443 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3514 times:
I don't see why the airline HAS to provide you with IFE at all. Just bring a good book. Even a mediocre one will be better than anything Kevin Costner can dish out.
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Brick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1571 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3443 times:
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 7): I don't see why the airline HAS to provide you with IFE at all. Just bring a good book. Even a mediocre one will be better than anything Kevin Costner can dish out.
+1
On the United and Delta non-AVOD flights I get that are long enough to show a movie, the movie is always targeted to the "lowest common denominator". I about died a few years ago when I had an unusually busy month and had "Are We Done Yet?" on every single flight on three different airlines....was very painful to even glance up at the monitor even though I wasn't listening to the audio.
The only time I get interested in IFE is if it is truly AVOD demand. If the IFE is on an overhead screen or on a cycle system (like on United's B777 fleet) then I am not interested. Bring a book or watch a good movie on your laptop.
KarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2929 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3414 times:
Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter): I flew NWA to Los Angeles. I flew on a 757 there and an A320 back, and both a/c was not equipped with TVs or radio
Does it really matter. Delta may add those features since it is there ball game now.
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 7): I don't see why the airline HAS to provide you with IFE at all. Just bring a good book.
Simairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 813 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3410 times:
Quoting Soxfan (Reply 2): The one exception is the 753, which flies to and from Hawaii; according to the NW website, movies are show on those flights.
Several Northwest-operated Hawaii routes will be flown with 757-200s soon (or now). It's unclear what will happen on these flights.
UAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 803 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3408 times:
Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter): PS: NWA is still a good airline, much better than UA. Too they have to merge with Delta.
How so?
- UA has IFE (CH 9!), E+, IMO better BOB (Choice menu), nicer seats in Y, what else?
- NW has no IFE, no E+, BOB, crappy seats in Y, what else?
C5LOAD From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3408 times:
Quoting Soxfan (Reply 2): There is usually no IFE on any NW domestic flight, and most domestic aircraft in the fleet (DC30/40/50, A319, A320, 752) don't even have overhead monitors
I know you are only referring to NW aircraft, but I know that on DL, the MD-90s have flip-down screens they show the safety video on. I have always wondered why they put them on a/c like that but not on the MD-88s. The MD-90 doesn't really fly long enough to show a movie do they?
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Brick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1571 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3380 times:
Quoting C5LOAD (Reply 13): The MD-90 doesn't really fly long enough to show a movie do they?
In the past I've flown CVG-DFW and ATL-DEN on MD-90's and a movie was shown.
Actually the simple answer to the question "Why doesn't XXX airlines have IFE on their aircraft?" is IFE is an expense for the airline, not a source of revenue. Some airlines have choosen to accept IFE as an expense while other airlines have not.
Michman From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 327 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3341 times:
Quoting Simairlinenet (Reply 11): Several Northwest-operated Hawaii routes will be flown with 757-200s soon (or now). It's unclear what will happen on these flights.
These are the 75J Pacific Interport birds with 20 FC seats and 162 coach seats. I'm pretty sure these are IFE equipped, but haven't actually been on one, so I'm not positive. I believe the FC section is a step up from the 753's.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6874 posts, RR: 29 Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3197 times:
NW domestic flights on aircraft that have IFE now use IFE. This was part of the standardization of in-flight service a few months ago.
This includes the 757-200 (5600), 757-A (Atlantic), and the 757-300's. This includes routes like DTW/MSP-West Coast, and West Coast-Hawaii.
NW always has used IFE on the 753's flying West Coast-Hawaii. There are no 752's that fly to Hawaii.
Timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3182 times:
Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 854 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2981 times:
For those NW aircraft now showing IFE domestically, is it Delta programming (i.e. what Delta is showing on their planes)? Also, is it just films, or do they have short-subject programming, too? And audio channels as well?
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KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12027 posts, RR: 43 Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2946 times:
Quoting Soxfan (Reply 18): For those NW aircraft now showing IFE domestically, is it Delta programming (i.e. what Delta is showing on their planes)? Also, is it just films, or do they have short-subject programming, too? And audio channels as well?
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2901 times:
Quoting UAL757 (Reply 12): so?
- UA has IFE (CH 9!), E+, IMO better BOB (Choice menu), nicer seats in Y, what else?
- NW has no IFE, no E+, BOB, crappy seats in Y, what else?
I'm sorry but I feel you're wrong on that one. I feel the BOB on both UA & AA is nothing but overpriced garbage. DL has the better BOB of all the domestic carriers though I do know that F9 has some really tasty options and so does YX.
UA & AA really need to look into upgrading the stuff they serve.
This is just my opinion.
Now back on topic...
Now that DL is merging with NW what can we find out about which specific NW fleets will be receiving IFE? Does NW-DL use specific 319, 320s, and 757s to do midcon flights other than the few that operate with the 753 to LAX/SFO/SEA ( I also know these birds show up in LAS, SAN, PHX and PDX on ocasion as well.)? It only makes sense DL will want to make their inflight entertainment product consistent fleetwide with the intergration of NW a/c. The only birds I can see not receiving IFE are the D95s and 744s.
Thoughts?
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6874 posts, RR: 29 Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2515 times:
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 20): Now that DL is merging with NW what can we find out about which specific NW fleets will be receiving IFE?
There have been 1,000 threads of speculation on a.net, however DL has not announced any plans at this point to do anything yet to the NW fleet. Doesn't mean they won't, doesn't mean they will anytime soon, and it doesn't mean they aren't constantly revaluation the cost/benefits of such projects. Only once they say what they are doing will we truly know.
DC-9-50's, A319, A320, 752, 753 will all be getting wifi, that is the only thing announced to date.
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 20): Does NW-DL use specific 319, 320s, and 757s to do midcon flights other than the few that operate with the 753 to LAX/SFO/SEA ( I also know these birds show up in LAS, SAN, PHX and PDX on ocasion as well.)? It only makes sense DL will want to make their inflight entertainment product consistent fleetwide with the intergration of NW a/c.
Today they do not, as said that could change if they want it to be so. Keep in mind that DL's original fleet is far from offering a consistent product fleetwide as it is now.
N7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1495 posts, RR: 12 Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2289 times:
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 21): There have been 1,000 threads of speculation on a.net, however DL has not announced any plans at this point to do anything yet to the NW fleet. Doesn't mean they won't, doesn't mean they will anytime soon, and it doesn't mean they aren't constantly revaluation the cost/benefits of such projects. Only once they say what they are doing will we truly know.
One thing I can say regarding at-seat TV's - DL would have to put new seats in NW aircraft, especially in the first class sections.
Right now DL is merely recovering the decades old NW seats with the blue leather. But these seats (the Recaro slimline) are not thick enough to house a TV. The Recaro seats are on the DC-9's, 319's, 320's ship numbers 3251 and up, 757-5600's and 757-300's. All of these would have to be traded out and as long-time frequent fliers of DL know - they have installed thousands of new seats. While NW still has A320's flying around with the 80's barcalounger style first class seats (ships 3201-3250) and 757-5500's with original design seats from 1984.
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5766 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2242 times:
Quoting N7371f (Reply 22): One thing I can say regarding at-seat TV's - DL would have to put new seats in NW aircraft, especially in the first class sections.
Right now DL is merely recovering the decades old NW seats with the blue leather. But these seats (the Recaro slimline) are not thick enough to house a TV. The Recaro seats are on the DC-9's, 319's, 320's ship numbers 3251 and up, 757-5600's and 757-300's. All of these would have to be traded out and as long-time frequent fliers of DL know - they have installed thousands of new seats. While NW still has A320's flying around with the 80's barcalounger style first class seats (ships 3201-3250) and 757-5500's with original design seats from 1984.
Interestingly, the NW 5500-series 752s appear to have the same model of seat in Y that DL's MD-88s have. I wonder who is the manufacturer of them.
Also, the Recaro seats you mentioned appear to be the same model of seat that the ex-TWA 752s originally had in Y prior to being replaced by the Weber slimline seats.
I would guess that DL will install the Weber slimline seats in Y should any NW aircraft get AVOD installed. Also, I have heard DL will be installing the Weber slimline seats on the MD-88 and MD-90 fleet to increase their capacities to 150 and 160, respectively. The 763ERs will probably also get them should AVOD be installed.
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