OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24929 posts, RR: 60 Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7044 times:
Thank god it wasnt worse. JAT having a run of bad luck the last week. Gotta love the pic of the pilot coming off with what looks like a bag of Duty Free.
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NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9614 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7007 times:
Like all JAT 737s this aircraft is older than 21 years. This oldie is certainly in the twilight of its career, even if the damage seems to be very minor.
Enginebird From United States of America, joined May 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6991 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 3): Gotta love the pic of the pilot coming off with what looks like a bag of Duty Free.
Two silver stripes, probably not the pilot, right? Rather one of the flight attendants.
Gosheto From Bulgaria, joined Jun 2009, 25 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6878 times:
I am surprised I didn't see a thread here last week when they had to ground all flights due to the strike at JAT Technika. Could it be a factor to this mishap -- stress on pilots or something like this?
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22065 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6755 times:
FatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2410 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6581 times:
Quoting YAK42 (Reply 11): Could this be a simmilar cause to the Aria Afghan A300 write off at IST a few years ago? Is it the same place that the aircraft overran?
B777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1010 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6556 times:
That particular runway has a long and sad history of overruns, which are more likely to happen when the runway is wet. The layer of used Dunlops deposited on the tarmac is staggering, and you probably all know about the reduced friction of wet rubber. The overrun areas are also more than just a bit dodgy, with steep inclines and multi-laned public roads just outside the perimeter fence. Check googlemap and see how close the runway ends are to public roads - and that's on all sides. Add the steep inclines, and it's fairly obvious some extra precautions might be in order - this is hardly a minor regional airport!
We're instructed not to accept landing clearances to that runway if it's wet. Problem for IST is that 06/24 is the preferred runway for landing since it allows simultaneous take-off operation from one of the parallels.
Unless that runway is closed and re-surfaced, this is going to keep on happening - and such action will only be taken if more airlines refuse to accept 06/24 for landing, even in the dry.
IST should also, gven the steep inclines at the end of all it's runways, be installing arrestor beds if safety was really it's top priority. But, alas, I feat that Tombstone Technology shall once again prevail before anything will be done.
[Edited 2009-10-04 10:34:57]
[Edited 2009-10-04 10:36:49]
From receips and radials over straight pipes to big fans - been there, done that, got the hearing defects to prove
JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2155 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6501 times:
JU has had its big share of problems, but let's face it, this can and does happen everywhere and to all airlines.
As B777LRF says in detail above, this runway is a hazard for IST ops in poor weather and has led to similar incidents in the past.
I hope the Turkish CAA acknowledges this as well as all other factors and makes valid recommendations that will help prevent similar incidents in the future.
For now, thank God everyone got our OK and that this did not end in a tragedy.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11957 posts, RR: 37 Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6255 times:
Doesn't seem to be any serious damage. Lucky for all concerned; hopefully JAT won't be too hard on the crew when they get back to BEG. (I mean, their home base - not to beg for their jobs!)
YAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 796 posts, RR: 7 Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6212 times:
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 12): The overrun areas are also more than just a bit dodgy, with steep inclines and multi-laned public roads just outside the perimeter fence.
Cuban8 From Kiribati, joined Sep 2009, 207 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3377 times:
Istanbul RWY06 can be tricky sometimes. Still, it amazes me that most of the recent runway overrun has been here. In my opinion, there are several airports in Europe which has more difficult runways to land on.
Off topic: Did the Aviation Authorities in Istanbul ever considered to build a parallel runway to RWY06/24 to ease up the already overloaded airport??
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3176 times:
Quoting NA (Reply 4): Like all JAT 737s this aircraft is older than 21 years. This oldie is certainly in the twilight of its career
Hey now, I am about to fly on a NW DC-9-5 tomorrow and the youngest one is over 32 years old.
TKfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 645 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2464 times:
Quoting Cuban8 (Reply 18): Off topic: Did the Aviation Authorities in Istanbul ever considered to build a parallel runway to RWY06/24 to ease up the already overloaded airport??
It is in talks for years now, but the problem is Air Base at the South part. As long as there is no agreement a parallel runway wont happen.
However this Winter rwy 06/24 will be closed and totally renewed and extended by 250 meters.
Putnik From Serbia, joined Aug 2007, 207 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2393 times:
It was not a really dramatic event after all. Passengers interviewed in Istanbul all seemed relaxed and gave calm answers. I suppose pilots knew what was happening with the plane and that there was no need for dramatic (and costly) deployment of slides and hasty disembarking.
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