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UA And AA From LHR To BRU  
User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 479 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 9070 times:
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I know that UA and AA are to operate LHR-BRU in the winter schedules. Strangely, aa.com won't quote a price for the flights but UA have a great fare of under £80 one way. I'd love to try a 777 on this short route but I'm a bit concerned about flying one-way on a US carrier on a short route. Am I likely to be treated with great suspicion or should I take a chance and give it a go?

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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5815 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8953 times:



Quoting SK736 (Thread starter):
Am I likely to be treated with great suspicion or should I take a chance and give it a go?

I doubt if you would be treated with any more suspicion then anyone else connecting on that flight would be. I'd go for it...



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User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 924 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8907 times:



Quoting United1 (Reply 1):
I doubt if you would be treated with any more suspicion then anyone else connecting on that flight would be. I'd go for it...

I'd like to fly it too!...I just may.


User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8916 times:
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Quoting SK736 (Thread starter):
Strangely, aa.com won't quote a price for the flights

Well just checked again and AA are now quoting a fare - just £67!


User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8908 times:



Quoting SK736 (Thread starter):
Am I likely to be treated with great suspicion or should I take a chance and give it a go?

Can't see how you would act any suspicious! They will be glad to make some revenue with those passengers who prefer a big Triple 7 to a smaller Airbus or Boeing.  dollarsign 



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User currently offlineJJeff From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8538 times:
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I'd be more worried about departure delays due to inbound longhaul flight ops than any security related issue.

User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 924 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8499 times:



Quoting JJeff (Reply 5):
I'd be more worried about departure delays due to inbound longhaul flight ops than any security related issue.

Long hauls stay on time way way more than short flights.

For example all the flights on the united board at O'Hare might be delay because of weather but the int'l flights are almost always on time. ORD gives the int'l widebodies priority over smaller domestic flights.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8466 times:

Just did a very quick search and could get LHR-BRU UA for £78 all-in (United.com using US page) and BRU-LHR on AA for £58.10 all-in (AmericanAirlines.co.uk) with LHR-BRU on AA around £10 more. If you're keen - go for it!


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User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3010 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8394 times:

I take fifth freedom flights all the time. (SQ: LAX-NRT, QF: YVR-SFO, etc). No reason at all for there to be suspicion.


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User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8347 times:

Just be sure to check the flight numbers, because UA put their flight numbers on BD flights (UA 4xxx, which may be cheaper, but operated by ERJ's). Now that would be a shock if you're expecting a 777...!

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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8309 times:

Interesting. I must have been asleep at some point, because I never heard of this flight.

Did AA get the right to fly this route from the TW purchase? If so, what other ex-LHR routes can they fly?

Is this part of some new plan to serve secondary cities in europe?



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User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1483 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8295 times:



Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 10):
Is this part of some new plan to serve secondary cities in europe?

I'd say the plan is more to hold on to LHR slots that are freed up from reducing their transatlantic schedule from LHR.


User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8235 times:



Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 10):
Is this part of some new plan to serve secondary cities in europe?

Nope, they are just trying to hold on to transatlantic slots which they aren't using anymore and are thus simply sending over their planes to the closest airport they think makes any sense which in this case is BRU: AA thus offers BOS through LHR, whereas UA offers ORD.

I'd expect these routes to be gone by next summer season (or soon after, once the economic climate gets better), so if you want to try it, better be quick!

However, I am not 100% sure both airlines are actually going to operate these flights if loads are really poor (which is likely). On days where there might be only a handful of people willing to fly, both airlines may just decide to cancel their widebody flight and shift their few pax to one of the numerous bmi or BA shuttle flights between LHR and BRU.


User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8200 times:
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The UA flight from BRU departs at 6.05am. Does the aircraft operating the LHR to BRU sector nightstop at BRU?

User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8200 times:



Quoting SK736 (Thread starter):
Am I likely to be treated with great suspicion or should I take a chance and give it a go?



Quoting SK736 (Thread starter):
I'd love to try a 777 on this short route but I'm a bit concerned about flying one-way on a US carrier on a short route. Am I likely to be treated with great suspicion or should I take a chance and give it a go?

I doubt anything will happen to you if they will sell it they can sell it so no problem

Quoting SK736 (Thread starter):
Strangely, aa.com won't quote a price for the flights but UA have a great fare of under £80 one way.

I think that is a little pricey but if you want a 777 take it



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User currently offlineAzncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8166 times:



Quoting Joeljack (Reply 6):
For example all the flights on the united board at O'Hare might be delay because of weather but the int'l flights are almost always on time. ORD gives the int'l widebodies priority over smaller domestic flights.

Not just at ORD, but at all UA hubs. All STAR and Priority flights are given this treatment.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8015 times:

I was surprised that AA didn't make their flights direct BOS-BRU with a stop to pick up and drop pax in LHR. That flight would do well if they did that.

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 12):
they are just trying to hold on to transatlantic slots which they aren't using anymore and are thus simply sending over their planes to the closest airport they think makes any sense which in this case is BRU

But since that is what they are doing, then I guess that explains why.



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User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7798 times:

I took a look at the UA flight LHR-BRU and found it for $74.00 ow, not even Pounds! Great deal for a 777. Does anyone know where this 777 comes from to LHR and returns to? Might be the IAD 777. 6:02 AM dep from BRU is brutal

User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7371 times:
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Quoting TonyBurr (Reply 17):
Does anyone know where this 777 comes from to LHR and returns to?

ORD. Long RON at BRU (approx 15 hours). I'd say UA could do like QF at LAX and get some work done but I don't think anyone at BRU has the capacity to do more than a line check on a 777.



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User currently offlineBrubiac From Bouvet Island, joined Nov 2003, 216 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6934 times:



Quoting SK736 (Reply 13):
The UA flight from BRU departs at 6.05am. Does the aircraft operating the LHR to BRU sector nightstop at BRU?

Indeed a nightstop at BRU.
The aircraft comes in the day before at 1535LT.



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User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6771 times:
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Quoting TonyBurr (Reply 17):
6:02 AM dep from BRU is brutal

Indeed it is. I assume they are pricing it keenly if people are happy to leave BRU at 6.00am for a transatlantic flight with a stop in LHR!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6731 times:



Quoting TonyBurr (Reply 17):
I took a look at the UA flight LHR-BRU and found it for $74.00 ow, not even Pounds!

Plus taxes. Once you divide it by the GBP rate, it's around £78.



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User currently offlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6650 times:



Quoting Joeljack (Reply 6):
Quoting JJeff (Reply 5):
I'd be more worried about departure delays due to inbound longhaul flight ops than any security related issue.

Long hauls stay on time way way more than short flights.

I tend to disagree. I've been burned before take the UA HKG-SIN flight when the inbound ORD aircraft is running late due to weather delays at ORD. It is common for the aircraft to be 3-4 hours delayed which pushed my arrival in SIN until 1-2 am. If is it somewhere that I have to be the next day, then I won't take the risk on these tag-ons from overseas.


User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1070 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5935 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 16):
I was surprised that AA didn't make their flights direct BOS-BRU with a stop to pick up and drop pax in LHR. That flight would do well if they did that.

I don’t understand – that is exactly what they ARE doing!!

AA108 BOS 1910 LHR 0640 763
AA108 LHR 0830 BRU 1040 763

AA155 BRU 1315 LHR 1330 763
AA155 LHR 1755 BOS 2050 763

The same equipment will fly BOS-LHR and then LHR-BRU under the same flight number.

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 10):
Did AA get the right to fly this route from the TW purchase? If so, what other ex-LHR routes can they fly?

No, the rights came when the US/EU open skies treaty came into operation. All US carriers have unlimited rights beyond LHR to points within the EU (except the UK) and to other countries whose bilateral with the US allow it (eg. India).

Quoting Slz396 (Reply 12):
I'd expect these routes to be gone by next summer season (or soon after, once the economic climate gets better), so if you want to try it, better be quick!

For AA, it is definitely seasonal and only operating for winter 09/10.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11572 posts, RR: 61
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4562 times:



Quoting SK736 (Reply 20):
Indeed it is. I assume they are pricing it keenly if people are happy to leave BRU at 6.00am for a transatlantic flight with a stop in LHR!

As the other indirect options would be KLM, LH etc... it's not really an issue - all those flights leave around the same very early time and have an aircraft change and layover whilst passing through the hub at AMS, FRA, etc...

I'm definately going to try these come winter; it's a nice way of adding two more US carriers to my log without having to take them longhaul.  yes 



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25 AA B777-200 : Okay guys, Hopefully I'm not too much off track here. But what's the use of sending a widebody SilverBird from Heathrow to Brussels if AA is partnered
26 BlueFlyer : And yet it is what it is. It's not even new. UA has had a LHR-BRU flight on its own metal several times in the past. I believe at one point they even
27 AA B777-200 : Yup, doesn't make a lot of sense! I know that at one point both TW and PA had its feeder flights out of Heathrow. Indeed, mostly 727s. But both airlin
28 American 767 : Did you have to reclear security? You definitely have to if you changer terminal (even if you connect on the same airline) but in your case you proba
29 BlueFlyer : I don't remember having to clear security again, but the last time I connected from UA to UA at LHR was a few years ago. The most salient memory of t
30 Flying Belgian : I do remember when UA used to fly LHR-BRU-LHR as ORD tag-on back in the mid 90's, and I can tell you that flight was OFTEN cancelled without clear exp
31 SK736 : But don't the rules on using slots mean that most of the flights will have to be operated?
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