CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2421 posts, RR: 9 Posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6289 times:
There was a thread that you can't post to anymore that talked about DL ferrying 772LR's to LHR for chemical spraying required in Australia. I just noted a sked change on DL's LAX-SYD service that looks like it solves the problem by providing a 6:00 turn around at SYD on Tuesdays. I would assume spraying is the reason, but will the smell go away with a 6:00 ground time? http://airlineroute.net/2009/10/08/dl-sydlaxatl-resked/
Original thread Delta Flies Empty Planes Across Atlantic! (by KL911 Sep 8 2009 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=4544687&searchid=4545078&s=dl+lax-syd#ID4545078
Clemsonaj From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 265 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 3962 times:
I doubt the smell will have gone away in that time. However the adverse effects to humans, other than potential respiratory effects as discussed in the previous thread (asthma related), will have diminished. Of course they could fly back with the windows open to alleviate the smell.
This is obviously a much better option than flying an empty plane across the Atlantic in terms of cost.
Timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 964 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3693 times:
In addition to the extended turn on Tuesdays in SYD, they will also be sending some LRs on the DTW-PVG route. The turn is overnight so this will provide for the opportunity to spray additional aircraft as needed.
Par13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 6496 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2518 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 5): But I doubt DL exec made the change based on a Airliners.net post.
Well, until the thread was started they were content to fly empty a/c to LHR just for spraying, the same genius mind that made that decision now decides that a longer turn once a week is a much cheaper alternative, now since no new folks are in charge where did they get that idea from? Makes you wonder
Jbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 526 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
The LR still had to have the initial sprays done before visiting Australia. So it makes sense to have the longer turns for the re-occuring treatment. I still think that there must have been an easier solution than the empty ferry to LHR. The hop from CDG to LHR made more sense.
How tight is the utilization on the LR. With the longer overnight, does it continue from LAX to ATL or stay in LAX for the turn back to SYD?
Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 12): But each aircraft only get sprayed once every SIX months or so.
Residual application must be done every 8 weeks as per AQIS, not 6 months, so in a way it makes sense to reschedule one day every week and send each B77L in turn down to SYD. By the time the last one is treated, it'll be time to treat the first one again the following week.
On the other hand, the timing is extremely tight. A plane this size normally takes about 6 hours just for the treatment. AQIS rules demand that the plane be locked up tight during the application and forbids any other activity in or on the plane at the same time.
6 hours to offload passengers, cargo, luggage and catering, then treat the plane, then prep and load it for its next flight.... Either a faster application process has been approved, or DL will have to have everything run on schedule down to the minute, else the return flights will take delays after delays.
Par13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 6496 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 15): Seriously though, I hope that DL did this because it is cheaper and more convenient for them and not to pander to the wackos.
The only difference between those in charge and us wackos is that we are from planet earth, they on the other hand are from some alien planet which teaches everything better than what we humans know about