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Taag Begin To Use A Mix Of 743/772 To GIG  
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3227 times:
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This Tuesday (Oct-13) TAAG begin to use their 772 frames on LAD-GIG route for the first time, to South America & Brazil. TAAG sources in the past confirmed Rio should get the 772 while Sao Paulo will continue with the 743. The Thursday flight is already scheduled for the 772.

Hope this is the begin of the definite upgrade.

TAAG 772's are configured with three class, and offer PTV to all passengers. They are used in general on LAD-LIS flights.


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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6408 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3019 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Thread starter):
They are used in general on LAD-LIS flights.

The 777s are also used on the LAD-DXB-PEK route.

The777Man



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2976 times:
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Quoting The777Man (Reply 1):
The 777s are also used on the LAD-DXB-PEK route.

Thanks for the remark.
I've been informed that LAD-GIG will become a full 772 route and as a side note, TAAG has some former Varig pilots on it's 772 flight group.
Good to see TAAG using their top equipment to Rio de Janeiro.



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6408 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2887 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 2):
Good to see TAAG using their top equipment to Rio de Janeiro

I agree; great to see TAAG flying the 777s to GIG!

The777Man



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User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2696 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2783 times:

What are they planning to do with the Cargo volume on the GIG-LAD route?

The 743 Combis carry much cargo from Brazil to Luanda, but they fly almost empty the other way around.

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2780 times:
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Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 4):
What are they planning to do with the Cargo volume on the GIG-LAD route?

The 772 carry less cargo but right now they have more 3 weekly frequencies to Sao Paulo where they will continue to deploy the 743.
Rio will got the best for passengers, Sao Paulo the best for cargo.

Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 4):
The 743 Combis carry much cargo from Brazil to Luanda, but they fly almost empty the other way around.

Correct, LAD-GIG cargo is basically mail, corporate pouch and oil/gas equipment for fixing and some diamonds.



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1100 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

Wow, I'm impressed that TAAG has secured ETOPS certification. I also didn't realize they had enough 777s to fly to LIS, GIG, DXB, and PEK. It looks like the 777s are no longer flying to JNB and the flight now alternates between a 73G and a 74D so I suppose that freed up a 777.

This will drastically increase the passenger experience compared to TAAG's ageing 74Ds.


User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1100 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Ok, it looks like TAAG is suspending their extra 3X weekly service on the LAD-LIS-LAD route (DT 652 / DT 653). This will also help free up aircraft.

User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2753 times:
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Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 6):
Wow, I'm impressed that TAAG has secured ETOPS certification. I also didn't realize they had enough 777s to fly to LIS, GIG, DXB, and PEK. It looks like the 777s are no longer flying to JNB and the flight now alternates between a 73G and a 74D so I suppose that freed up a 777.

The second flight for the ETOPS certification will take place tomorrow. The third, i believe will be next week. And as you mentioned, the JNB flight uses now more the 743.
They have 3 777-200ER , right ?

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 7):
Ok, it looks like TAAG is suspending their extra 3X weekly service on the LAD-LIS-LAD route (DT 652 / DT 653). This will also help free up aircraft.

Interesting, thanks for the info.



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6408 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2700 times:

LAD-DXB-PEK vv only operates twice a week so there's plenty of time to do a turn to GIG as well since they have three 777 aircraft.

Looking forward to seeing pics of TAAG's 777s from GIG!

The777Man



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3652 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2620 times:



Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
Looking forward to seeing pics of TAAG's 777s from GIG!

Already possible at: http://www.aviation.com.br/


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Good news TAAG will use a mix of equipment in Brazil. I hope this will improve TAAG opertaional peformance. According to INFRAERO TAAG is the foreign airline with the worst on-time performance in Brazil, only 50% of TAAG flights depart GRU/GIG on time...

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 5):
The 772 carry less cargo but right now they have more 3 weekly frequencies to Sao Paulo where they will continue to deploy the 743.

The B743 is excellent for cargo and apparently TAAG has managed to secure some very good cargo contracts to fill its plane especially for the GRU-LAD legs while LAD-GRU usually returns with empty belly. Among the many cargo contracts, even automobile companies exporting car/car components to Angola...

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2443 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 11):
Good news TAAG will use a mix of equipment in Brazil. I hope this will improve TAAG opertaional peformance. According to INFRAERO TAAG is the foreign airline with the worst on-time performance in Brazil, only 50% of TAAG flights depart GRU/GIG on time

This might help as the 743 will have a schedule not that busy.

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 11):
The B743 is excellent for cargo and apparently TAAG has managed to secure some very good cargo contracts to fill its plane especially for the GRU-LAD legs while LAD-GRU usually returns with empty belly

TAAG always secured good cargo between Brazil and Angola. While flying only LAD-GIG 5x weekly, all times they got a lot of cargo. The challenge now is to develop a good cargo market between Luanda and Brazil.



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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1100 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2440 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 12):
This might help as the 743 will have a schedule not that busy.

Even before, the 743s had a fairly light schedule. I'm guessing that TAAG ground operations are very inefficient, which results in most of the delays. However, I know that out of LIS, they have really gotten their act together and flights regularly depart and arrive on time.


User currently offlineEi2ksea From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

What are loads like on these flights. I am continually surprised (and dont get me wrong - thrilled) to see that TAAG can manage to fill aircraft between South America and Luanda successfully.

Long may it continue.



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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

Who does TAAG partner with for any onward connections within Brazil?


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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 7874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2356 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 6):
Wow, I'm impressed that TAAG has secured ETOPS certification.

ETOPS 120/138 with a 777 is really not that difficult to obtain I don't think.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
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Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 13):
Even before, the 743s had a fairly light schedule. I'm guessing that TAAG ground operations are very inefficient, which results in most of the delays. However, I know that out of LIS, they have really gotten their act together and flights regularly depart and arrive on time

But i remind about many times they face problems with the 743's. But you're right, there was not a big reason for delays.

Quoting Ei2ksea (Reply 14):
What are loads like on these flights. I am continually surprised (and dont get me wrong - thrilled) to see that TAAG can manage to fill aircraft between South America and Luanda successfully.

Angola and Brazil speaks the same language, there's a lot of Brazilian investments in Angola, and a good and sizeable community in Luanda. Plus, Angolans use to visit Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo for shopping and healthy issues.
Flights to GIG got around 90% loads and perform very well with oil/gas and mining sectors. I don't have info on Sao Paulo ones

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 15):
Who does TAAG partner with for any onward connections within Brazil?

Gol and TAM, with interline agreements.



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3652 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2342 times:



Quoting Ei2ksea (Reply 14):
I am continually surprised (and dont get me wrong - thrilled) to see that TAAG can manage to fill aircraft between South America and Luanda successfully.

DT has been flying to GIG since the 80s AFAIK.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2250 times:
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Quoting C010T3 (Reply 18):
DT has been flying to GIG since the 80s AFAIK.

That's a very important point. TAAG begin operations to GIG more than 20 years ago and up to 2005 with just a weekly flight. From 2005 till 2009 they upgrade their operation, year after year, to 2x weekly, 3x weekly, and when they begin flights to Sao Paulo earlier this year, they were flying LAD-GIG almost 6x weekly.
So it was a sustainable growing, not stronger due to the fact Angola is growing at the highest rates in the world.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24084 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2174 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 19):
Quoting C010T3 (Reply 18):
DT has been flying to GIG since the 80s AFAIK.

That's a very important point. TAAG begin operations to GIG more than 20 years ago and up to 2005 with just a weekly flight.

I believe Varig also operated GIG-LAD at one time, probably in the 1980s or thereabouts.


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6709 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2160 times:



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 16):
ETOPS 120/138 with a 777 is really not that difficult to obtain I don't think.

They likely have to dogleg a bit even with ETOPS 180? Is Ascension just about always a suitable alternate?


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11365 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2151 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 20):
I believe Varig also operated GIG-LAD at one time, probably in the 1980s or thereabouts.

Right. And Varig service to LAD during 80's was planed to be extended to Maputo.



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