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Could QX Go To Hawaii?  
User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

I was thinking the other day, seeing the growing AS presence in Hawaii, has the Alaska Air Group ever considered sending a fleet of QX Q400s down there to compete with HA and Go on the inter-island routes? The Q400 seems like the perfect airplane for these routes, seeing as they were built for short-haul high-cycle routes and their low CASM. Was it ever considered or could it still happen in the future?

[Edited 2009-10-13 19:51:35]

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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5830 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4558 times:
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I doubt QX will go to Hawaii. Although, the possibility could grow since Mokulele is pretty much being dissolved. I was actually hoping for a change in codeshare to Island Air.

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13255 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4441 times:
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Quoting Airport (Thread starter):
I was thinking the other day, seeing the growing AS presence in Hawaii, has the Alaska Air Group ever considered sending a fleet of QX Q400s down there to compete with HA and Go on the inter-island routes?

The topic has been discussed, but any time it comes up the same realities are present - a hyper-competitive market with extremely low yields, and AS is making money by connecting HI markets with the mainland, not each other.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5830 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4314 times:
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Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 2):
The topic has been discussed, but any time it comes up the same realities are present - a hyper-competitive market with extremely low yields, and AS is making money by connecting HI markets with the mainland, not each other.

According to Go! website...any ticket purchased on Mokulele prior to October 13th will be credited the AS miles and that they hope to hook up with AS Mileage Plan soon. I'll believe it when I see it.


User currently offlineHaYnFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

I don't think AS will come to the islands, but Island Air tried the Q400 in 2006 and couldn't make it work. I'm not sure of the reason, but the Q400 has been here once before. Nice looking aircraft too!

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2006/03/22/business/story02.html

[Edited 2009-10-13 22:36:35]

[Edited 2009-10-13 22:37:27]


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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2529 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4228 times:

The market is really to competitive for another airline to enter. Just look at what happend to Go! and Mokulele - they couldn't make it alone, even with rock bottom expenses, and had to 'merge' or 'cooperate in operations' or whatever they're calling it. But honestly, if any airline were to look at a business plan for trying to come to Hawaii these days, they'd just throw it into the dumpster and walk away. Neither Go! nor Mokulele have made much (or any) money flying interisland in Hawaii. If another carrier tried, everyone involved would face mounting losses, cutbacks, backruptcies, all over again.

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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3596 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4061 times:
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Quoting HaYnFlyer (Reply 4):
but Island Air tried the Q400 in 2006 and couldn't make it work. I'm not sure of the reason,

The reason was the entrance of go! and their way below cost fares. Island Air has very low costs, but couldn't afford to match the below cost fares wars started by go!. Because of this, Island Air couldn't fill the Q400 and returned it.


User currently offlinePohakuloa From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

I think the Q400 is a great aircraft for the Hawaii market, BUT as for if QX will enter the Hawaii market I would agree with everyone else here in saying that if it would happen it definitely wouldn't be anytime soon.

I do remember hearing (correct me if I am wrong) that AS was thinking of or will be putting a maintenance facility here in HNL, so on a long shot if this go/moku venture falls through, I think that it would be a possibility simply because there would already be the start of an infrastructure here for maintenance.

HOWEVER, that being said, it would still be a long shot.



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User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Then they would have to change their name to:
"The states that are not CONUS airlines"


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