FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6049 posts, RR: 25 Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2637 times:
It's already available on UA's website, but UA will launch PNS-IAD 2x daily using Mesa CRJ200's. Press release should be out later this afternoon. From the looks of it, there's also going to be ORD-PNS, but it's not totally clear.
I have mixed feelings about this launch. While I'm glad to have the new route, it may be too much capacity for UA to launch this, plus US which is supposed to launch DCA-PNS in the spring.
FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6049 posts, RR: 25 Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2451 times:
Pensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 535 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2103 times:
Great to see PNS expanding. I do hope the ORD service is made year round. This is the first time United has ever serviced Pensacola. (Right?) A new airline for Pensacola.
I hope that the additional capacity is supported especially with the connection possibilities out of IAD. Washington D.C is a top O&D market for Pensacola and the region though.
Any more details on US Airways flights to DCA? (Schedule)
Lots of new flights announced so far:
AA to MIA
US to DCA
UA to IAD/ORD
DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8586 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2089 times:
LHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1368 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2044 times:
Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 2): Lots of new flights announced so far:
AA to MIA
US to DCA
UA to IAD/ORD
Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 3): IMO PNS has a good chance of getting a flights on Delta to LGA once they do the slots swap.
Is PNS traffic mostly military-related, given the air station, or is it just tourism that tends to drive the market? I ask because MIA, IAD, and ORD facilitate connections, DCA and LGA are not as conducive to this (although I guess you can connect at DCA if youre on US given the size of US ops there).
FL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1499 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2024 times:
Also regarding UA, IAD, and Florida, UA will be launching Sat/Sun service IAD-RSW starting December 19th.
Pensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 535 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1968 times:
Apparently..
They are taking advantage of an incentive package passed in August giving airlines 200-thousand dollars for marketing and waving landing and terminal fees for two years.
Maybe this explains the increase in flights/routes..
FL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1499 posts, RR: 12 Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1923 times:
Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 7): Quoting FL787 (Reply 5):
Also regarding UA, IAD, and Florida, UA will be launching Sat/Sun service IAD-RSW starting December 19th.
Are you talking Mainline? Because Shuttle America already operates one E-170 a day to RSW, and Air Wisconsin ground operates for United Express there.
The Airbus 320 service is seasonal, but I thought it was daily during the winter.
UA is only serving RSW from ORD right now and it's never on mainline, only daily on S5. IAD-RSW is new (at least it hasn't operated in a few years) and is on S5.
JBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1902 times:
Reminds me of when UAX announced DAB in the past, they are doing the exact same start up schedule as DAB:
2x Daily DAB-IAD,
Seasonal Weekend only DAB-ORD.
Congrats to PNS! I think this is great! Could this maybe mean that domestic demand is improving as UA just opened a new domestic station in a small/medium sized market? Haven't seen that going on in a while for anyone.
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SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1868 times:
This PNS deal sounds eerily familiar to the DAB arrangement. UA has never been very big in Florida, much less the Gulf Coast (outside of MSY). Now, we have seen other "new" southern stations like HSV and LIT succeed, so I suppose only time will tell, but I have my doubts...
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PWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 574 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1808 times:
Quoting FL787 (Reply 8):
UA is only serving RSW from ORD right now and it's never on mainline, only daily on S5. IAD-RSW is new (at least it hasn't operated in a few years) and is on S5.
My mistake, I don't know what I was thinking, haha.
Maybe it feels like IAD would be a more natural market compared to IAD.
FL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1499 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1696 times:
F9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 689 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1619 times:
I wonder where they will put them in terms of gate assignment and ticket counter space. I suspect they will take over NW's old spot now that DL took them over. Does that leave room for any other airlines to come in? I have heard of another one with the initials Southwest Airlines is rumored for PNS.
CatIII From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2278 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1509 times:
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter): It's already available on UA's website, but UA will launch PNS-IAD 2x daily using Mesa CRJ200's.
FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6049 posts, RR: 25 Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 10): This PNS deal sounds eerily familiar to the DAB arrangement.
There are some similarities and I'm not sure if this route will work.
The stage length is relatively long for the CRJ and if fuel prices go higher, this route will likely suffer. Plus, if US adds DCA-PNS, then it may be too much capacity for the market.
Compared to DAB, PNS has a few things going for it. DAB suffers because of it's proximity to MCO/SFB. PNS doesn't really have that problem, in fact PNS actually benefits by taking some traffic from neighboring VPS/MOB. PNS has a more steady flow of gov't/military traffic, plus some leisure traffic which produces a traffic mix.
For comparison, FL didn't last long at DAB whereas they've served PNS for almost 8 years.
Quoting F9fan (Reply 14): I suspect they will take over NW's old spot now that DL took them over.
I suspect you are right. Although with only two flights (three on weekends), they could really just let US or CO do all the handling. For gates, they will probably just park down at the end of the Concourse at the lower level boarding doors (gates 9 - 12).
Quoting F9fan (Reply 14): Does that leave room for any other airlines to come in?
Gate 8 is open and IIRC Gate 1 will re-open once construction finishes next year on the next security screening checkpoint and inline baggage screening.
Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 3): IMO PNS has a good chance of getting a flights on Delta to LGA once they do the slots swap.
I've heard this from others, but not sure I believe it. It's a very long, thin RJ route, so I'm not sure it will last.
Quoting JBAirwaysFan (Reply 9): Could this maybe mean that domestic demand is improving as UA just opened a new domestic station in a small/medium sized market?
Maybe, but it also maybe just that UA has a lot of excess RJ capacity to throw around and is willing to try anything that offers incentives.
DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8586 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1315 times:
Quoting LHCVG (Reply 4): (although I guess you can connect at DCA if youre on US given the size of US ops there).
Once the slot swap is done DL will have a hub at LGA and US will have one at DCA
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 16): I've heard this from others, but not sure I believe it. It's a very long, thin RJ route, so I'm not sure it will last.
I wouldn't think it would be on a CR2, My guess would be a CR7 or CR9.
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JBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1305 times:
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 16): For comparison, FL didn't last long at DAB whereas they've served PNS for almost 8 years.
Yes, but FL is in much better shape than UA as well. Not to mention that FL just screwed themselves at DAB with the excess ATL capacity that wasn't necessary. Had they kept DAB-BWI, that would have done the area very well, as their BWI flight had the highest loads of them all according to my sources.
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CIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1991 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1122 times:
Quoting CatIII (Reply 15): Quoting FlyPNS1 (Thread starter):
It's already available on UA's website, but UA will launch PNS-IAD 2x daily using Mesa CRJ200's.
Oof...that's a long time on a -200
NW used to have MSP-PNS on a CRJ, I took that once, and it was LONG!
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