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User currently offlineAlevik From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 1027 posts, RR: 8
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5547 times:
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It's always nice to have a bit of amusement to bide the time when your flight is delayed.

I'm currently in KDEN waiting for UA6587 to CYYC. Scheduled departure at 2:01pm from gate B90.

gate changed to B50, where I did the obligatory passport check. The three boisterous ladies behind the counter were having an awesome time, talking about one of their co-workers, and how she didn't know as much they did and how her fashion sense was questionable. For some reason they printed me a new boarding pass, that had B90 as the gate. I asked if the gate had changed again, and showed them the boarding pass. I was told, no, it is leaving from right here, B50.

As i wandered back to my seat, I passed the monitors that showed the flight leaving from B90, and now delayed to 2:50pm. Back to the counter, "are you sure we leave from B50? the monitors say B90." A few computer keystrokes and yes, you are correct, the gate is now B90.

Announcement made, the herd moves off to gate B90.

After settling in at B90, I hear the gate agents on the phone saying "are you kidding me? we just changed from B50!" Yep, off we go back to gate B50, and with another delay to 3:48 pm.

So here i sit at Gate B50, with the current departure listed as 3:48pm. Great weather here in DEN, and no reasons given for delay. Is there bad weather where our inbound flight might be coming from? Is this normal for United - the old another hour of delay every hour?


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User currently offlineBaw2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

From what I can tell, maybe mechanical? I was flipping through flightaware looking at the arrivals inbound to DEN, and then checking those on denver airports website for gate assignment, according to DEN's website, everything coming into the B50 and B90 gatse is ontime. UAL still doesn't list a reason on their website yet.

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User currently offlineDartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5354 times:
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Do you have the auto phone updates from United?

If so, your phone would be ringing off the hook. They called me 8x on wed (including 3 voicemails when I was in the air) when I flew HPN-ORD-SFO and everything was on-time!

One one of those calls it repeated the word "hello" about 30x before going on to the message.


User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5315 times:



Quoting Dartland (Reply 2):
Do you have the auto phone updates from United?

If so, your phone would be ringing off the hook. They called me 8x on wed (including 3 voicemails when I was in the air) when I flew HPN-ORD-SFO and everything was on-time!

One one of those calls it repeated the word "hello" about 30x before going on to the message.

Its an automated system and tends to call every time the flight information is updated. I am personally not a fan and had to dump it after my second time using it! I know that we have people working on it so maybe it will get fixed? I am not a big computer expert so I don't really know how much is involved.



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User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5260 times:

Yup a mechanical issue earlier in the day. It's one of the older Comair birds so that's not a surprise, they're MX hogs.

Looks like you finally went out of gate B56, lots of fun bouncing around!  Smile


User currently offlineAlevik From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 1027 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4980 times:
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Yeah, gate B56 was the final gate. Great crew, before departure they indicated mech problem early in the day caused a snowball effect.

When we pulled into the gate in CYYC the brakes were causing a significant "wobble" feeling (not squealing that I could hear).



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User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4284 times:
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Quoting Dartland (Reply 2):
Do you have the auto phone updates from United?

But the mechanical voice sometimes gives wrong gate information.

That happens frequently at IAD where UAX can keep you joyfully hopping back and forth from the lower 'D' concourse gates to gate C28 (A through X) to the overcrowded 'A' concourse gates which is a mobile-lounge ride away from the other concourses.   

[Edited 2009-10-17 06:48:43]

User currently offlineUA76Heavy From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3399 times:



Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 3):
Its an automated system and tends to call every time the flight information is updated. I am personally not a fan and had to dump it after my second time using it!

Amen! I missed a connecting flight to TPE thanks to Easy Update ("Hello, this is United with Easy Update reminder message...") and had to rebook for the next day (the gate agent was very accommodating in rebooking me). The message told me the flight had been delayed until a certain. When I got to the gate, the flight had already left. As for the gate number, Easy Update usually doesn't get it right or it tells you "please check airport monitors." Nowadays it's easier (more accurate) to check the airport monitors.

BUT I have to say it helped once. It warned me of a 5 hour departure delay about 19 hours ahead of time and was able to rebook without losing my seat in F.


User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2393 times:
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Quoting Alevik (Thread starter):
It's always nice to have a bit of amusement to bide the time when your flight is delayed.

I'm currently in KDEN waiting for UA6587 to CYYC. Scheduled departure at 2:01pm from gate B90.

gate changed to B50, where I did the obligatory passport check. The three boisterous ladies behind the counter were having an awesome time, talking about one of their co-workers, and how she didn't know as much they did and how her fashion sense was questionable. For some reason they printed me a new boarding pass, that had B90 as the gate. I asked if the gate had changed again, and showed them the boarding pass. I was told, no, it is leaving from right here, B50.

As i wandered back to my seat, I passed the monitors that showed the flight leaving from B90, and now delayed to 2:50pm. Back to the counter, "are you sure we leave from B50? the monitors say B90." A few computer keystrokes and yes, you are correct, the gate is now B90.

Announcement made, the herd moves off to gate B90.

After settling in at B90, I hear the gate agents on the phone saying "are you kidding me? we just changed from B50!" Yep, off we go back to gate B50, and with another delay to 3:48 pm.

So here i sit at Gate B50, with the current departure listed as 3:48pm. Great weather here in DEN, and no reasons given for delay. Is there bad weather where our inbound flight might be coming from? Is this normal for United - the old another hour of delay every hour?

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As it turns out, I get to find all this out for myself since a lady friend of mine is dragging me (kicking and screaming I might add) to the Alberta Ballet in Calgary Friday night. But after this thread, I have decided to change planes at ORD rather than DEN.

I'll be flying into YYC on a "Skywest" CR-7.

Okay, now looking at a flight status map of ORD, I can see that my flight from Dulles (UA-977) historically docks in 'C' concourse. I can also see that my departing flight to Calgary (UA-6705) historically departs from 'F' concourse, and occasionally from 'E' concourse.

Okay, vis-a-vis the premise of this thread, what's wrong with this picture?   

[Edited 2009-10-18 11:25:16]

User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2370 times:



Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 8):
Okay, vis-a-vis the premise of this thread, what's wrong with this picture? scratchchin

The big problem that I see is you are choosing to fly on an A320 when you could connect in DEN and fly on the 763, 777, or a combination of both! Now for an Anetter this is a HUGE problem!



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User currently offlineLuv08 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

Wow, sounds like a rough day! Next time connect on a B737 over in concourse C! Atleast you won't have to play musical gates!  Wink

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6037 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2333 times:



Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 8):
I'll be flying into YYC on a "Skywest" CR-7.

You say that as if it's not the airline's real name.


As far as connecting in DEN, there's nothing wrong with it; it's a great place to connect. The OP was to take an aircraft that went mech, and as to why it was swapped several times, I can't say, but it's a VERY unusual circunstance. As far as C to F, it's not a short walk, but it's not a long one, either. I've had some longer transfers at PHX, DFW, and ATL.



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User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2328 times:
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Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 9):
The big problem that I see is you are choosing to fly on an A320 when you could connect in DEN and fly on the 763, 777, or a combination of both! Now for an Anetter this is a HUGE problem!

Not only do I have no problem with DEN, but I route through it frequently (but mainly to buy Powerball tickets at the B concourse currency exchange  Smile ) . And believe it or not, ORD-IAD gets the same mix of 319s, 320s, 757s, 767s, and 777's.

As a matter of fact, on my return from Calgary Oct 27th, I get to ride the last 737 airframe into IAD -- the one that becomes "UA-737" the next morning -- the last United 737 flight.

So . . . why wasn't that honor accorded to Denver?


User currently offlineLuv08 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

After working here a few weeks I am a liitle shocked to see the amount of overnighting aircraft that UA has in Denver. I know they are downsizing in DEN mainline wise but for example I only counted 6 mainline a/c and 2 regional on all of Concourse B!

User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2247 times:
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Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 11):
Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 8):
I'll be flying into YYC on a "Skywest" CR-7.

You say that as if it's not the airline's real name.

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As they say, passengers really can't tell which UAX affiliate they're flying. And true--most could care less.

But just as a matter of curiosity, last weekend I flew into AUS (from Chicago) on GoJet (a CR-7) and flew out of AUS (to Denver) on Skywest (also a CR-7). Service was identical, so only the small print on my boarding-pass knew the difference. Since I'm based in the DC metro, I'm used to Tran-states, Shuttle-America, and Mesa flying UAX as well.

I guess the reason I put Skywest in quotes is that by their own choice, they don't fly into or out of IAD.

But I know they're a real airline.


User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2224 times:
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Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 11):
As far as C to F, it's not a short walk, but it's not a long one, either. I've had some longer transfers at PHX, DFW, and ATL

Oh yeah!

I transferred from UA to US in PHX last May. It required leaving one terminal, taking a 15 minute bus ride, and then reentering another terminal -- and passing through TSA another time.  crazy 

I won't be doing *that* again soon.


User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2224 times:



Quoting Luv08 (Reply 13):
only counted 6 mainline a/c and 2 regional on all of Concourse B!

It's a hub. The a/c spend the night at the outstaion and come in first thing in the morning. Not really that unusual.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6037 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2225 times:



Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 14):
I guess the reason I put Skywest in quotes is that by their own choice, they don't fly into or out of IAD.

UA doesn't want them there right now. Plus, everyone else is a IAD, whereas no one else is at SFO and LAX.



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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2015 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2204 times:



Quoting Luv08 (Reply 10):
Wow, sounds like a rough day! Next time connect on a B737 over in concourse C! Atleast you won't have to play musical gates!

He'd have a mighty tough time connecting to YYC on a B737 from C Concourse.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6037 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2180 times:



Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 18):
He'd have a mighty tough time connecting to YYC on a B737 from C Concourse.

Plus, Southwest is not immune from aircraft going mech, nor multiple aircraft swaps.



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User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2164 times:



Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 12):
So . . . why wasn't that honor accorded to Denver?

The aircraft will go through DEN on its final flight. It kind of works its way from East to West as United Flight 737 and will hit all of our domestic hubs.
Hmmm I wonder who took care of all of the planning to make this final flight something people will remember.....  scratchchin 

Quoting Luv08 (Reply 13):
After working here a few weeks I am a liitle shocked to see the amount of overnighting aircraft that UA has in Denver. I know they are downsizing in DEN mainline wise but for example I only counted 6 mainline a/c and 2 regional on all of Concourse B!

You know that we are doing that in DEN? How do you know that?

DEN is a hub and the way things work at most airlines is you try to have your aircraft RON at outstations so that they are able to leave on early morning departures inbound to your hub where they will deliver passengers who are now able to connect with the bank of flights that will be going out. This is not a specific United scheduling trick, it happens everywhere!



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User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2069 times:
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Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 19):
Quoting Floridaflyboy (Reply 18):
He'd have a mighty tough time connecting to YYC on a B737 from C Concourse.

Plus, Southwest is not immune from aircraft going mech, nor multiple aircraft swaps.

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Umm, it's (B737 airline) Westjet rather than Southwest whose corporate offices are at YYC.
And besides, Southwest flies out of MDW rather than ORD.

Btw, Air Canada Jazz also flies ORD-YYC in a CR-705


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6037 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2022 times:



Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 21):
Umm, it's (B737 airline) Westjet rather than Southwest whose corporate offices are at YYC.

I never even thought of WestJet, so you win that round.  Wink



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1854 times:



Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 20):
Hmmm I wonder who took care of all of the planning to make this final flight something people will remember.....

Probably someone who's ego doesn't need to brag about it on internet forums  Wink


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