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User currently offlineStyles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 526 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12500 times:

Does anyone know how and when the New England Patriots are flying to London for Sunday's game at Wembley versus Tampa?

Are they flying Delta into Heathrow?

Thanks,
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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4662 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12463 times:

It should be listed as DL 9801, currently nothing shown for today or tomorrow.

Normally the Patriots use PVD, not sure if they will use BOS for this one or not. They also usually fly a domestic 763, so perhaps they will get a bigger plane for the journey too.



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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12436 times:

I believe the team is bringing a lot of family for the game so perhaps a 744 will be used? Or maybe the Pats will just do a second charter.

Does anyone know where or what Tennessee flew for their game yesterday?


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12427 times:

The Titans used a DL 757 into BED and out of PVD.

User currently offlineSectflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12315 times:

I am surprised the Titans did not take a school bus home after their beat down!

User currently offlineBoslax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12283 times:

The Pats are flying out sometime on Thursday. Not sure from where though, Im guessing BOS.

User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 864 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12272 times:

Are the domestic 763s approved for transatlantic ops?


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3942 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12232 times:
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Quoting Boslax (Reply 5):

I doubt they would wait till thursday to fly out. The game is on Sunday. They fly out thursday they get there on friday and only have 1 day to adjust to the time difference? Wasn't last years biggest complaint the time difference? I bet they fly out tomorrow.



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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11996 times:

The Bucs are supposed to be flying out Friday according to a sports blog that covers the team. The Patriots flight from BOS would really not be that much longer than flying to the west coast. Leave at 9 or 10am Friday and get in Friday night. A light practice on Saturday and they will be good to go on Sunday.

Delta has also changed all of the charter numbers and the new Patriot flight number is 8870. The Bucs are flying a Virgin 744, we'll have to see what the Patriots do.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11992 times:

I wouldn't be shocked if it was a NW 747-400 - I know NW handled the charters last year. No chance a domestic-configured bird will do this run - they'll do something in an international configuration to make it a bit more comfortable for the long flight.

User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 864 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11923 times:

After yesterday's performance, they better give all the starters BizElite seats; they deserve them  Smile


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User currently offlineJcarv From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11861 times:

I've heard VS is flying both teams. That's according to Travel New England article.

http://travelnewenglandnewspapers.com/article.php?art=358


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11819 times:

Ok, according to this,
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTop...rican_football-London_England.html
the Patriot are leaving Thursday evening.

Quoting Jcarv (Reply 11):
I've heard VS is flying both teams. That's according to Travel New England article.

That does not surprise me. Much nicer ride with the PTVs and I know the Saints were not happy with the NW 742s last year.



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User currently offline737tanker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11723 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 7):
I doubt they would wait till thursday to fly out. The game is on Sunday. They fly out thursday they get there on friday and only have 1 day to adjust to the time difference? Wasn't last years biggest complaint the time difference? I bet they fly out tomorrow.

The Patriots are treating this like a West Coast game as far as air travel as the flight time is only about an hour longer. So they will be leaving Thursday, that way they get to keep their routine fairly normal, As for the time difference the game will be 1 PM ET and acccording to Bostonl media that will be 5 PM London time,


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12446 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11723 times:



Quoting Sectflyer (Reply 4):
I am surprised the Titans did not take a school bus home after their beat down!

The owner decided it wasn't worth the airfare to retrieve the team, so he arranged a special charter:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Fung_wah_bus_ny-bos.jpg



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11674 times:



Quoting 737tanker (Reply 13):
As for the time difference the game will be 1 PM ET and acccording to Bostonl media that will be 5 PM London time,

Isn't London 5 hours ahead of Boston? Or is daylight savings time affecting that?



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User currently offlineEvomutant From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11656 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 15):


Quoting 737tanker (Reply 13):
As for the time difference the game will be 1 PM ET and acccording to Bostonl media that will be 5 PM London time,

Isn't London 5 hours ahead of Boston? Or is daylight savings time affecting that?

Yes, the UK (and Europe) roll back DST early Sunday morning.


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4106 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11570 times:

I also believe that the NFL arranges the travel for the teams playing in London and that the 'normal' charters they use the rest of the year don't apply.

American Airlines must be pretty peeved to be shut out of this deal, being 'Official Carrier' of the Patriots (even though Delta does the actual flying for them).


User currently offlineAirBuffalo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11549 times:

Too bad for the players if they're taking VS -- only 40-ish premium seats per 747! Why not BA with up to 84 (CW + first) premium seats!

User currently offlineHinckley From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11483 times:

I don't know how the Pats are flying to/from London this weekend, but I'm a Club seating season ticket holder and that gives me the ability to fly with the team to most away games (for a price). It's a pretty cool deal with lots of team events through the weekend.

Last year I flew back and forth with the team to the west coast on a DL 763 from PVD. Coaches were in the front, the team was spread out in the back, and the rest of us were packed in the middle.

I'm going to London this weekend, but comfortably in AA J-class!


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3617 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11422 times:



Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 17):
American Airlines must be pretty peeved to be shut out of this deal, being 'Official Carrier' of the Patriots (even though Delta does the actual flying for them).

Being the "official carrier" of an NFL team means nothing more than the airline paid money to use that tagline. I'm sure AA couldn't care less that they aren't actually flying them.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11351 times:



Quoting B752OS (Reply 2):
Does anyone know where or what Tennessee flew for their game yesterday?

Look for their new DL flight number as DAL8876.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8876



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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9077 times:



Quoting Jcarv (Reply 11):
I've heard VS is flying both teams.

That's correct, we're taking both teams over. Yesterday we flew the Buccs cheerleaders and lead team out of MCO. The Buccs will leave from TPA and the Pats will leave from BOS both on their own chartered 747-400s.

Quoting AirBuffalo (Reply 18):
Too bad for the players if they're taking VS -- only 40-ish premium seats per 747!

Actually they are use the LHR-based birds which have 54J/62W/228Y. More then enough for the entire team to all get Upper Class seats if not Premium Economy.


User currently offlineSectflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9023 times:

HAHA! That is funny! HEHE!

Quoting Revelation (Reply 14):
The owner decided it wasn't worth the airfare to retrieve the team, so he arranged a special charter:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s.jpg



User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8895 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 7):
Quoting Boslax (Reply 5):

I doubt they would wait till thursday to fly out. The game is on Sunday. They fly out thursday they get there on friday and only have 1 day to adjust to the time difference? Wasn't last years biggest complaint the time difference? I bet they fly out tomorrow.

Boston to London is a pretty short flight compared to other TATL. It's only about

Quoting Hinckley (Reply 19):
I don't know how the Pats are flying to/from London this weekend, but I'm a Club seating season ticket holder and that gives me the ability to fly with the team to most away games (for a price). It's a pretty cool deal with lots of team events through the weekend.

Last year I flew back and forth with the team to the west coast on a DL 763 from PVD. Coaches were in the front, the team was spread out in the back, and the rest of us were packed in the middle.

I'm going to London this weekend, but comfortably in AA J-class!

I never knew that people could travel with the team. How many people to they limit that to per game?

Quoting Revelation (Reply 14):
The owner decided it wasn't worth the airfare to retrieve the team, so he arranged a special charter:

At least he had the sense to put them on the safest bus company....there is no chance the bus won't get stuck in a toll both on the Pike, or tip over on an on ramp.



Does anyone know where the teams will be practicing? I know in the past teams have trained at Chelsea and Arsenal grounds.


25 LACA773 : How is a flight catered with all these players? They surely don't get economy class meals and what is served I feel would be more substantial than wha
26 FlyDeltaJets : Usually catered with business class style meals. On the domestic trips usually hot sandwiches. Good stuff as those charters get raided by the ground c
27 Pilotboi : I'm sure they are going to be very well taken care of. Catering will be set in the contract of the charter. It's whatever VS agreed to give them with
28 LACA773 : Thankyou for the information. Very interesting. It would also be interesting to see what the actual menus are.
29 YYZRWY23 : With regard to most sports charters, usually the management (GM, President, VP, etc...) get the F or J seats depending on the aircraft, and the playe
30 ChrisNH : Would the inbound 744s this week to both BOS and TPA be revenue flights or ferrys? I suppose they'd have to be the Thursday inbounds because the teams
31 71Zulu : I'd bet with the league paying the bills they will be ferried over the night before. Also, the previous flights went to LGW, not sure if these will go
32 Pilotboi : Ferrys. Otherwise the outbound rev flights would have no aircraft. There is no flight to the US that doesn't turn back around to England.
33 Hinckley : [quote= I never knew that people could travel with the team. How many people to they limit that to per game?[/quote] There were about 20 "guests" flyi
34 Soxfan : Even then, I think that the players in Y would still be able to stretch out as it won't be nearly as full as on a normal revenue flight. Perhaps each
35 Post contains links Revelation : According to http://espn.go.com/boston/columns/pa...ts/blog?name=patriots&post=4579227
36 Post contains links 71Zulu : I guess this is the Patriot's plane coming in, http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...3/history/20091022/1055Z/EGLL/KBOS
37 Revelation : Too bad the "aircraft" field shows up as "unknown".
38 71Zulu : It was showing earlier and it's a 744.
39 Post contains links and images 71Zulu : VS 9963 scheduled 6:00 pm depart BOS 5:35 am arrive LHR B744, G-VFAB View Large View MediumPhoto © Johan K
40 FuturePilot16 : I think they will be leaving thursday night and arriving friday morning. I think it's better that way si they can at least have a walkthrough or 2 on
41 Post contains links Pilotboi : And the Buccs' ship is on her way: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR965P
42 Post contains links and images 71Zulu : G-VWOW View Large View MediumPhoto © Matthew Taylor - Solent Photography
43 AirNovaBAe146 : If Virgin was proactive enough, they could have made another flight segment LHR - BOS & LHR - TPA on that day. Even bringing in some revenue from the
44 ChrisNH : That's what I was thinking, inasmuch as both cities are in the Virgin network. It's not as though the crews would be stranded in either Boston or Tam
45 AirNovaBAe146 : Not at all. What we say makes sense, but I somehow thing the airline execs say we don't get the "Big picture"
46 Post contains links Dimodica1 : The New England Patriots left today from Boston (Logan) on Virgin Atlantic on a Boeing 747-400. The Boston Globe has pictures here of the players boar
47 KL911 : A bit off topic, but why are two US teams playing eachother in Europe where this sport doesn't even excisits?
48 Evomutant : Not played to any great extent, but there are certainly fans. Wembley sells out in minutes every year for this game. Lots of games televised etc. Ult
49 Revelation : Apparently the 80,000 seats at Wembly sold out in minutes, so someone must want to see the game.
50 KL911 : Thanks, so it's official competition? And will they fly the same carrier back as they came on?
51 DALMD88 : You would be surprised to find that the sports charter food can really suck. We raid the galleys after they arrive. A lot of times it's cheeseburgers
52 Pilotboi : That's the thing - TPA is not a VS station. As to why they don't on the BOS route, or why not use the TPA as a rev flight to MCO first, I'm not sure
53 DeltAirlines : There's one incredibly simple reason why they don't - the return revenue flight wouldn't exist. For the plane that Pats flew on, if the inbound was t
54 DeltaL1011man : My aunt brings home the cheeseburgers sometimes (if they have alot left over).......they are hit or miss to be nice.
55 Post contains links 71Zulu : Here is the permanent link for the Patriots' flight, http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...3/history/20091022/2207Z/KBOS/EGLL Nothing? Don't worry, t
56 Pilotboi : No we weren't talking about using the aircraft for say VS11 then canceling VS12. What we meant was adding an extra section but only one way. However,
57 ACKattack : With the ferry flight is do the FAs have to rest in BOS/TPA first or can they just relax on the flight from England to BOS/TPA and then do the immedia
58 Pilotboi : Well for the BOS one, it arrived at 1:37pm and left at 6:27pm so they had some time on the ground, but I'm sure they were busy getting everything rea
59 ChrisNH : If Lady Penelope and Cosmic Girl were doing the charters for the Pats and the Bucs respectively, which 744 markets had a one-day downgrade to the A340
60 777stl : The NFL actually used to have a league in Europe - it was basically a development league for the NFL proper. It ran into money issues and was thus sh
61 B752OS : When you think about it, the NFL is the most American major sport we have. The number of foreign born players is very small. Much smaller than the NH
62 Jreuschl : Wonder what determines who gets first class and business class on these charters? I'm sure Tom Brady was one of them since he felt the need to dress u
63 Revelation : Yes, it's an official competition (not a "friendly") and VS will do the flights both ways.
64 IlliniCMI : There has also been talk of putting an NFL team in Mexico City. I think that would happen before London or Europe, although I don't see it happening
65 Post contains links 71Zulu : So you think they turned right back? I don't know, seems like a long day's work. I would think they brought the crew in the day before on VS11 so the
66 B752OS : BOS-LHR is longer than 5.5 hours. It's more like 6 Hours and 15-30 minutes to London and 7 Hours and 15-30 minutes to Boston. But you are right Mexic
67 IlliniCMI : Wasn't sure, just saw the Patriots flight took 5:40.
68 ChrisNH : Thank you! The list above looks like what you could get off an ACARS list. Do you have a web site that lists the exact aircraft flying the N. Atlanti
69 Post contains links 71Zulu : I like this one, http://antonakis.co.uk/acars.php?page=request Put in the flight number and click the month or day you want and it will usually hit on
70 Leezyjet : 54J 62W on LHR 744's - seems plenty to me. Maybe they did I'm sure an airline run by a savvy business man like SRB are not going to miss a trick. Vir
71 DeltAirlines : 5h40 seems about right for a BOS-LHR flight. I've done ATL-LHR earlier this year in 6h35, and I've done BOS-LHR in the past in 5h20 with some very st
72 Pilotboi : Possible. I'm not positive, but I believe some markets are getting into low season and I don't think any station saw an unexpected downgrade in equip
73 ChrisNH : Patriots re flying back on Virgin 9968; Bucs are flying back on Virgin 9966. Both planes in the air now, with ETAs in both Boston and Tampa sometime a
74 MSYtristar : I doubt many people in TPA will be welcoming the Bucs home after that pretty bad performance. Over 2,000 people showed up at MSY last night for the a
75 Post contains links 71Zulu : VS9966 - G-VFAB VS9968 - G-VHOT Both showed up here, http://acarsd.org/acars_search.html
76 ChrisNH : Great! Thank you. You have a great sense for where to find that information and I bookmark the sites you point me to. Thanks again! As for the game,
77 Post contains links 71Zulu : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...6/history/20091026/1146Z/EGLL/KTPA http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...8/history/20091026/1340Z/EGLL/KBOS Ye
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