Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 854 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1100 times:
Hi All,
The US Airways website indicates that yesterday (Sunday 10/18) flight 3656 was scheduled to fly PHL-PVD-PHL. It indicates that the PHL-PVD leg was "diverted" to Philadelphia, and the PVD-PHL leg was subsequently canceled due to that aircraft going tech.
A few questions:
-Did the flight from PHL ever take off to begin with, or was it canceled at the gate?
-What was the tech problem?
-Was another aircraft unable to be found as a replacement, even on a Sunday in US's hub in PHL?
-Could US have subbed an aircraft in Providence coming in from another location (i.e. Charlotte) to fly the return to Philadelphia, or was the scheduled crew supposed to be on the inbound flight from Philadelphia?
It was the last flight of the day PVD-PHL on US--could the airline have rebooked passengers on the WN flight departing ten minutes earlier, or can they not do that?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks for your comments,
Soxfan
Pilot: "Request push, which way should we face?" JFK Ground: "You better face the front, sir, or you'll scare the pax!"
MSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 699 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1038 times:
Quoting Soxfan (Thread starter): -Did the flight from PHL ever take off to begin with, or was it canceled at the gate?
-What was the tech problem?
-Was another aircraft unable to be found as a replacement, even on a Sunday in US's hub in PHL?
-Could US have subbed an aircraft in Providence coming in from another location (i.e. Charlotte) to fly the return to Philadelphia, or was the scheduled crew supposed to be on the inbound flight from Philadelphia?
It was the last flight of the day PVD-PHL on US--could the airline have rebooked passengers on the WN flight departing ten minutes earlier, or can they not do that?
1. The flight would have been airborne in order for the flight to divert.
2. I do not know, but is it possible that weather could have been a factor?
3. If the return was cancelled then either there was not another aircraft avail or flight crew.
4. Usually, but not always when a flight is routed PHL-PVD-PHL the flight crew stays with that aircraft. I emphasize usually. If you had another aircraft and crew that was in PVD and then used them to fly the PVD-PHL leg then you are going to cause even more problems.
5. US cannot rebook onto WN as WN does not have an interline agreement with US. I do not know what the flight sched are in PVD, but passengers would have been put on other flights, either US or someone else, or overnighted.
I am retired from US now, so I cannot research this for you, maybe someone elso can. I giving my thoughts based on my knowlege of their system and how they normally operate.
Looking at the flight number this flight was operated by one of the express carriers, so US themselves would not be involved in these decisions.
The US Airways website indicates that yesterday (Sunday 10/18) flight 3656 was scheduled to fly PHL-PVD-PHL. It indicates that the PHL-PVD leg was "diverted" to Philadelphia, and the PVD-PHL leg was subsequently canceled due to that aircraft going tech.
A few questions:
-Did the flight from PHL ever take off to begin with, or was it canceled at the gate?
-What was the tech problem?
-Was another aircraft unable to be found as a replacement, even on a Sunday in US's hub in PHL?
-Could US have subbed an aircraft in Providence coming in from another location (i.e. Charlotte) to fly the return to Philadelphia, or was the scheduled crew supposed to be on the inbound flight from Philadelphia?
It was the last flight of the day PVD-PHL on US--could the airline have rebooked passengers on the WN flight departing ten minutes earlier, or can they not do that?
Sorry for all the questions and thanks for your comments,
Soxfan
This was an Air Wisconsin operated flight.
I don't know what the tech problem was, but CRJ's go tech a lot. The airplane is a MX nightmare.
I don't have access to the information about the flight since I am not in the office, but from the sounds of it this was likely a plane that went tech after pushback. Given the amount of mx problems that Air Wisconsin has been having, the fact that the heavy check provider can't get planes back soon enough, and that its not uncommon to have 7-10 planes tech at one time out of 70 in the fleet, they probably didn't have another airplane for you guys.
US could have probably asked another carrier with regional lift (i.e. Republic) if they would run an extra section, but I doubt this happened. Air Wisconsin makes decision to cancel flights though, not USAirways.
Also, even if this was a crew change, most of the flying into PVD on USAirways is either mainline or Republic; ZW has very few flights into PVD on their metal, and most of them are out of DCA anyways. This was likely not a crew change though, since ZW doesn't RON in PVD much anymore, and the fact that ZW will protect crew changes at all cost, and the cancelled flights are usually the ones with the same crew out and back.
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