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MKG To Get New Jet Service To ORD  
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

SkyWest ORD-MKG 2x per day beginning "early 2010" using federal grant money:

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_story.aspx?storyid=114812&catid=14


Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
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User currently offlineWeb From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

MKG should be happy they even have one airline, given their proximity to and higher fares than GRR (and GRR is no cheap airport to fly from). As much as I love new service to a hometown airport, this will be gone as soon as the grant money is gone, especially since it will utilize a CRJ on such a short route.

If UA (or AA, for that matter) could have a regional bring up some props, then I'd give it a chance, but if both are going to stubbornly remain all-jet at ORD, then this service simply will not last. If UA got somebody to operate Q400s out of ORD (a la CO at EWR) for the multitude of short-haul runs around the Midwest, then we would see more promise for these smaller stations gaining and retaining ORD service.



Next flight: GRR-ORD-PDX-SEA-ORD-GRR
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3105 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4324 times:



Quoting Web (Reply 1):
and higher fares than GRR

The MKG website says different:

Courtesy: MKG

MKG Fares Lower Than GRR

http://www.muskegonairport.com/latestnews.cfm?newsdate=8/5/09


User currently offlineBrandonfs88 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4172 times:

so when does NW/DL pull out?

User currently offlineOrdramper98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

According to regulations. gov, SkyWest also won the EAS bid for:
CMX- Houghton/ Hancock, MI (already another thread about this)
PAH- Paducah, KY
EAU- Eau Claire, WI

Each will get two trips per day to ORD. Looks like they found a home for some of the ex-Midwest birds.


User currently offlineToltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3291 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 4025 times:

Wasn't MKG one of the cities XJ put into the EAS system? It looks like the money for this is coming from SCASD dollars. Has the EAS bid been finalized?

User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3940 times:



Quoting Toltommy (Reply 5):
Wasn't MKG one of the cities XJ put into the EAS system? It looks like the money for this is coming from SCASD dollars. Has the EAS bid been finalized?

These are the EAS cities there where finalized on Friday, the other cities are also being discontinued by XJ are still being evaluated, unless someone else steps up or XJ actually submits valid bids those other cities will loose service.


User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3852 times:

Great news for MKG. When YX flew MKE-MKG loads were never a problem, so I'm pretty optimistic about this addition. I got kinda excited at first when I saw that EAU was getting new service as well, but it looks now like its only going to be an airline swap as NW is pulling out right before UA is starting.


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User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3770 times:



Quoting Toltommy (Reply 5):
Wasn't MKG one of the cities XJ put into the EAS system? It looks like the money for this is coming from SCASD dollars. Has the EAS bid been finalized?

MKG isn't an EAS city- too close to GRR. There are four Michigan EAS cities- Escanaba (ESC), Ironwood (IWD), Iron Mountain (IMT), and Manistee (MBL)



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3713 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 8):
MKG isn't an EAS city- too close to GRR. There are four Michigan EAS cities- Escanaba (ESC), Ironwood (IWD), Iron Mountain (IMT), and Manistee (MBL)

Yes, it is. The gov't just issued the award for MKG service.

http://www.regulations.gov/search/Re...#documentDetail?R=0900006480a438db

While GRR is close, it is too small an airport to be used for determining EAS eligibility for MKG.


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3692 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 8):
MKG isn't an EAS city- too close to GRR. There are four Michigan EAS cities- Escanaba (ESC), Ironwood (IWD), Iron Mountain (IMT), and Manistee (MBL)



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 9):
Yes, it is. The gov't just issued the award for MKG service.

http://www.regulations.gov/search/Re...#documentDetail?R=0900006480a438db

While GRR is close, it is too small an airport to be used for determining EAS eligibility for MKG.

Likewise, thanks to Mesaba, Alpena, Sault Ste Marie, and Houghton/Hancock are also now EAS cities.



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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3678 times:

Additionally, (too late to edit my previous post to add to it. forgive the double posting)

It should be noted for those who don't go in to read the bid documentation that SkyWest's requested subsidy for MKG to operate 2x daily CRJ to ORD was less than half of what Mesaba requested to operate 2x daily Saab to DTW.

SkyWest requested $660k a year versus Mesaba's $1.3 million.

The other three cities SkyWest was awarded also had measurably less subsidy than what XJ wanted.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

WOW,!! Delta is really turning EAS upside down.. ORD now becomes the defacto hub for EAS contracts since DL has shown thay they want out of that business by selling Saabs and overbidding contracts! Wth the disappearance of STL,PIT,CVG ,MKE and soon MEM hubs, and now MSP, DTW and ATL not being options with DL's disdain for this service, it really creates problems for EAS cities to major hub access!

DL is going to being doing LOTS of unpopular things , i predict , in the coming year!


User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3584 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 9):
Yes, it is. The gov't just issued the award for MKG service.

My bad- should have done more research.

Interesting the news article doesn't mention MKG will lose all service to DTW. Guess they should have done more research too. I imagine most Worldperks/ SkyMiles folks who travel a fair amount will make the short drive to GRR now.



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22995 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3535 times:



Quoting Rjnut (Reply 12):
Wth the disappearance of STL,PIT,CVG ,MKE and soon MEM hubs, and now MSP, DTW and ATL not being options with DL's disdain for this service, it really creates problems for EAS cities to major hub access!

In the middle of the country, it's not so bad for customers. They get service to a city they are more likely to need to go to (CHI versus DTW, ATL, or MSP) and get jet service, which passengers apparently prefer.

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 13):
I imagine most Worldperks/ SkyMiles folks who travel a fair amount will make the short drive to GRR now.

...or convert to Mileage Plus. SkyMiles isn't nearly what Worldperks was, as many of us are painfully finding out.



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User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3524 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14):
or convert to Mileage Plus. SkyMiles isn't nearly what Worldperks was, as many of us are painfully finding out.

tell me about it..and i read on another post somewhere to the effect of ""dont kid yourself, it may be called Delta , but NW is really running things"

I tend to think NOT!


User currently offlineWeb From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3394 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 13):
Interesting the news article doesn't mention MKG will lose all service to DTW.

If MKG is now an EAS city, I doubt DL would stay in the market. Are there any EAS airports that have more than the EAS carrier?



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