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CO Entry Into Star - Terminal Moves At EWR?  
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2167 posts, RR: 13
Posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7346 times:

Hi

With the entry of CO into Star Alliance EWR will become a major Star Alliance hub. Can anyone tell me whether CO's entry into Star Alliance will cause some airlines to move terminals at EWR? For instance the other Star members operating from EWR (UA, AC, US, SQ, SK, LH, TP...) to move closer together or possibly with CO under one roof?

Thanks

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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4995 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

With CO in A and C, and international arrivals in B (even some CO flights use B) how much closer can they get?


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8537 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7326 times:
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I could be wrong , but was under the impression that CO were pushed for space as it is , I am sure that on another website ( which I cannot name on Anet ) , in their CO forum , I saw a post from someone who said that there is simply not enough room to make EWR an 'under one roof' location.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7303 times:



Quoting Mozart (Thread starter):
With the entry of CO into Star Alliance EWR will become a major Star Alliance hub. Can anyone tell me whether CO's entry into Star Alliance will cause some airlines to move terminals at EWR? For instance the other Star members operating from EWR (UA, AC, US, SQ, SK, LH, TP...) to move closer together or possibly with CO under one roof?

SK, LH, TP, SQ etc.. are not moving to Terminal C, CO is already operating Terminal C beyond capacity thus they use Terminal B for overflow International arrivals and Terminal A for COEX. It's possible UA and AC might move to Terminal C (AC was there when they had their alliance with CO in the early '90s), that would give CO the entire A-1 concourse (including the FL gate they are acquiring). CO could move the CO Connection Q-400 flights to the A-1 concourse and AC and UA would be able to use they gates CO Connection were using at Terminal C.

There might be some big moves coming up, especially with DL/NWA consolidating and the Port Authority's current renovation of Terminal B and planned $1.3 Billion dollar expansion of Terminal A.



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User currently offlineJerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7267 times:
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Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
I am sure that on another website ( which I cannot name on Anet ) , in their CO forum

Oh you mean where they talk about flyers LOL



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User currently offlineCokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1174 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7268 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):
There might be some big moves coming up, especially with DL/NWA consolidating and the Port Authority's current renovation of Terminal B and planned $1.3 Billion dollar expansion of Terminal A.

We have been hearing the same thing. Possibly United moving out of A and Delta/NW
moving into A. I understand the Port and CO would like us to vacate B.


User currently offlineMogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7200 times:

EWR is small enough that there's not much to gain to co-locate every airline in Terminal C. What they probably need is a post-security air-side bus shuttle between the 3 terminals to ease connections.

Although, I'd really hope UA and AC can get out of the Terminal A....that place is OLD. But then, I've seen LGA Concourse A and JFK T-3, so EWR T-A is already much better in comparison  Smile


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7049 times:

How about others? Like TK might want to move to EWR from JFK.

User currently onlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 6995 times:

The word I hear is that UA is getting a couple of gates (that are presently under construction) at Terminal C. I'm not sure which ones, but they have a couple of them that are closed, and I think that UA mainline equipment will be coming to those gates soon.

None of the other carriers (LH;BA;SQ; etc.) will be moving to C. Terminal B suits their needs (B-2 & B-3) fine, and the fact that there is FIS in place. Its all widebody at B2 & B3. Also Terminal B is under construction with a new concourse with food court - I think post security, so that will be more amenities there.

We are also getting Gate A-10 (FL former gate) and will be a 2nd shuttle there. I think that AA will get there Gate 31 back. AFAIK, no Q200 or Q400 will be coming to Terminal A yet.

We will still have Terminal B inbounds. That's not gonna change anytime soon.

I don't know about the B6 situation, but I don't think they will move anytime soon.

DL/NW still have the B-1 banjo, but there may be 1 or 2 common use gates for someone to move in. Maybe Alaska or WestJet?

A lot lot of changes since the entrance to Star Alliance.



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User currently offlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6599 times:



Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 6):
Although, I'd really hope UA and AC can get out of the Terminal A....that place is OLD. But then, I've seen LGA Concourse A and JFK T-3, so EWR T-A is already much better in comparison  

I did see somewhere (can't divulge where) that AC will be moving in EWR, I don't recall where to, or if it was even mentioned in what I was reading. A date was mentioned, but I don't recall what it was.

I do know that AC is moving though. That much I can recall lol.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

It seems that UA will be moving to some of the high 80s gates at Terminal C in EWR at the very end of the concourse.

User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6528 times:



Quoting CokePopper (Reply 5):
We have been hearing the same thing. Possibly United moving out of A and Delta/NW
moving into A. I understand the Port and CO would like us to vacate B.

Thats interesting because Terminal B is a specialty at EWR for non CO flights (with the exception of international arrivals at certain times) and international carriers having their ops. in B-2 and B-3. why would they want DL/NW to leave, especially with the ongoing renovations of the terminal at large? I walked through B in august and DL has recently branded their baggage claim area with the semi-completed downstairs renovations....

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 8):
The word I hear is that UA is getting a couple of gates (that are presently under construction) at Terminal C. I'm not sure which ones, but they have a couple of them that are closed, and I think that UA mainline equipment will be coming to those gates soon.

Thats VERY interesting...exactly how many? Wonder how UA will position their ticketing counters...

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 8):
DL/NW still have the B-1 banjo, but there may be 1 or 2 common use gates for someone to move in. Maybe Alaska or WestJet?

DL/NW will probably need most, if not all of the banjo at peak times of the day. I believe air france also uses B-1. They can sacrifice 1...maybe 2 gates if they really try. Westjet and Alaska seem comfortable in A though...



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6408 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 11):
Thats VERY interesting...exactly how many? Wonder how UA will position their ticketing counters...

If I had to guess... I'd say UA would probably take over the small bank of EliteAccess counters at the west end of the building on the mid-level. If not there, then they may build new counters opposite the existing desks on the mid-level.


User currently offlineNYC2theworld From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 662 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6337 times:



Quoting CODC10 (Reply 12):

If I had to guess... I'd say UA would probably take over the small bank of EliteAccess counters at the west end of the building on the mid-level. If not there, then they may build new counters opposite the existing desks on the mid-level.

Please no. IF anything CO needs to make sure non Elite customers don't get into the EliteAccess line. When I was in EWR Sunday, the small EliteAccess section was closed and had EliteAccess in the general checkin area. If you were from the C-3 checkpoint down to Domestic Checkin, this was the set of desks you would see and the "security guard" who was SUPPOSED to regulate people in did not do her job, in fact, she sat down on the bench about 40 feet away!

So no, they definitely need to leave those counters specifically for EliteAccess customers.



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User currently onlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6335 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 11):
DL/NW will probably need most, if not all of the banjo at peak times of the day. I believe air france also uses B-1

For their outbounds only. Their inbounds is at B-2. There is no FIS in B-1, so DL ramp tows it over to B-1. They also handle the flight.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 11):
We have been hearing the same thing. Possibly United moving out of A and Delta/NW
moving into A. I understand the Port and CO would like us to vacate B.


Delta's not going anywhere. You might have heard that one because of the drawdown of AA at A-3. (AA & US share A-3) DL has the gates they need at B-1 since Northwest's former gates are in the same banjo. (right next to each other) You are now seeing NW & DL aircraft throughout the whole banjo now. But there will be 1 or 2 common use gates left though.

United mainline is coming to Terminal C. (I believe 2 or 3 gates in C-1 - probably 85 - 86 - 87 neighborhood). But I'm not sure about their Express flights. I think they will be still at A-1.


Quoting BOS2LAF (Reply 9):
I did see somewhere (can't divulge where) that AC will be moving in EWR, I don't recall where to, or if it was even mentioned in what I was reading. A date was mentioned, but I don't recall what it was.

I do know that AC is moving though. That much I can recall lol.

They have their E-jets & AC Jazz flights, so they will only need a gate. AC doesn't fly larger AC into EWR. They are all pre-cleared flights, so no FIS is needed. That's why they are in Terminal A in the first place.

Only when the main renovation of the Terminal A-1 Concourse starts is when will you see some major moving (but that's some time away)



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6287 times:



Quoting T5towbar (Reply 14):
Delta's not going anywhere. You might have heard that one because of the drawdown of AA at A-3. (AA & US share A-3)

I know that CO was invading space at terminal A (CO's set up in terminal A for their express gates are chaotic and ridiculous BTW) for a while now and its pretty much common knowledge that CO won't invade DL's space because they clearly have too many flights for CO to chew up a gate or two from them. If this happens it won't be CO, probably AS or westjet which only have a few flights between the two carriers. So even if DL gives up a gate or two at B-1, another carrier will probably not utilize that gate much better than DL just because of the sheer number of flights these smaller carriers have into EWR per day, which are not very many:

Alaska -- 2 flights to SEA
Westjet -- 1 flight. Are they sesonal BTW?
JetBlue -- Probably going to stay in A-2.
AA and USAir -- Not going to move.
Midwest -- 2-4 flights a day, if that.
United -- Rumored to move to C.
Air Canada -- Staying in A.
Air Tran -- Leaving EWR.

Unless any of these carriers make a firm commitment with the port authority by the end of the year to move to B-1, there is still a good chance that you'll only see DL/NW tails in this satellite. Between DL/NW they have 31-33 flights per day. This is roughly identical to what UA had when they still had their base at EWR in the early 2000s, and basically utilized A-1 all to themselves, with Air Tran using a gate later in the game.

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 14):
DL has the gates they need at B-1 since Northwest's former gates are in the same banjo. (right next to each other) You are now seeing NW & DL aircraft throughout the whole banjo now. But there will be 1 or 2 common use gates left though.

True but take a look at the satellite at the end of the night. I flew in in May one time and saw every gate with a DL or NW plane towed in and at least 4-5 other RONs sitting on the ramp just chilling out.

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 14):
AC doesn't fly larger AC into EWR.

They still fly 319/320 I believe to Vancouver, Calgary, and Toronto.

Quoting NYC2theworld (Reply 13):
"security guard" who was SUPPOSED to regulate people in did not do her job, in fact, she sat down on the bench about 40 feet away!

What can you expect from EWR? Every time I've been in terminal C its been a total zoo. I think the worst part of elite access at EWR are the security lines. They really don't move a whole lot faster than the regular ones just because of the boat load of elites and poor regulation of the TSA (not to mention TERRIBLY hostile as well.)



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User currently onlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6273 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
Alaska -- 2 flights to SEA

True

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
Westjet -- 1 flight. Are they sesonal BTW?

Seasonal

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
JetBlue -- Probably going to stay in A-2.

Yup. Not going anywhere.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
AA and USAir -- Not going to move.

True. But AA is drawing down, so a gate or two may be available.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
Midwest -- 2-4 flights a day, if that.

Shares one of US gates in A-3

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
United -- Rumored to move to C.

Moving to Terminal C-1. 2 or 3 gates. Mainline equipment, but don't know about the Express operation

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
Air Canada -- Staying in A.

A possible candidate to move. Maybe B-1? Or A-3.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
Air Tran -- Leaving EWR.

Leaving. We get Gate 10 next month.



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6262 times:



Quoting T5towbar (Reply 16):
A possible candidate to move. Maybe B-1? Or A-3.

Maybe. AC I think has ground handling done by DL global services, so its a possibility



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5296 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 11):
DL/NW will probably need most, if not all of the banjo at peak times of the day

Having had a few trips through there they definitely do not need all 9 gates, when I've been through there I never saw more than five gates in use at once. The most they need is 6-7 gates, the other gates could be available for other carriers. And I think that's exactly what's going to happen, the PA is renovating Terminal B and expanding the ticketing and baggage areas (baggage just completed). DL/ NWA are only using two of the four new baggage carousels, it's going to be a similar situation when the new domestic ticketing level is built. DL/NWA is not going to be using the newly expanded infrastructure for domestic carriers at Terminal B to it's fullest. Thus I can bet that the Port Authority will bring in another carrier to B-1, to justify the costs of the Terminal B project the Port Authority has to bring in another carrier.

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 14):
For their outbounds only. Their inbounds is at B-2. There is no FIS in B-1, so DL ramp tows it over to B-1. They also handle the flight.

There's no reason why the AF flight needs to be towed from B-2 to B-1, DL staff can just walk over to handle the departure.

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 15):
So even if DL gives up a gate or two at B-1, another carrier will probably not utilize that gate much better than DL just because of the sheer number of flights these smaller carriers have into EWR per day, which are not very many:


B6 could make good use of 2-3 gates at B-1, perhaps two of their own gates and sharing a third with DL for overflow. You could set up B-1 with DL having access to seven gates (six DL one shared), that's plenty for DL's operation as I've never seen them use more than five gates. The two other gates could go to B6, and they could share DL's seventh gate for overflow. You could even throw a YX or AS into the B-1 operation as their operations are quite small.

Another option is to move US Airways to B-1, they have a small operation plus DL will be closing one of the two clubs DL and NWA operate at B-1 and US Airways could takeover that club.



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User currently offlineNYC2TLV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

All I want is for SA to move from JFK to EWR. Is that even possible though? I think that the landing times of SA 0203 are fine for EWR but I am not sure about SA 0204.

User currently offlineCokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1174 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5065 times:

The announcement that Delta may add another intl flight out
of EWR may come soon  Smile


User currently onlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4886 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 18):
There's no reason why the AF flight needs to be towed from B-2 to B-1, DL staff can just walk over to handle the departure.

They have to do it for every international outbound. But it is a easy move, so no problems doing it.

But they don't. And can't. I watch them move it every day. Since AF & DL are partners, I don't think AF does not have counters at B-2, so they tow it over to B-1, where they board it.DL handles it on both ends. KLM did the same thing when they had their AMS flight, and NW handled it on both ends. If you drive on the departure level and see the airline signs, you will see "Delta - Air France".

Quoting STT757 (Reply 18):
B6 could make good use of 2-3 gates at B-1, perhaps two of their own gates and sharing a third with DL for overflow. You could set up B-1 with DL having access to seven gates (six DL one shared), that's plenty for DL's operation as I've never seen them use more than five gates. The two other gates could go to B6, and they could share DL's seventh gate for overflow. You could even throw a YX or AS into the B-1 operation as their operations are quite small.

B6 stated that they are not going anywhere. And I think that the PA supports that position, but that can change whenever the renovation of Terminal A begins.(If and when....) Even though they have 2 gates in B-2, they use an overflow gate at A-1 (Gate 18) for arrivals. We wished they did move so we can have all of A-2 and get rid of that dreaded Gate 31 situation. But that will spawn another shuttle situation with Gate 10 - which is on the extreme end of the terminal. You are right that DL doesn't need all of those gates, and someone will move in. Alaska and Westjet would be the prime suspects for that kind of move. And probably AC too.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 18):
Another option is to move US Airways to B-1, they have a small operation plus DL will be closing one of the two clubs DL and NWA operate at B-1 and US Airways could takeover that club

That's a good possibility. But if AA reduces flights from EWR, there will be a couple of gates in A-3. Someone can move there, but who? Or we will take a couple more gates from A-1 or A-3. Most of these are temporary moves, once the project starts, then the whole A-1 banjo will have to be torn down. United moving to Terminal C is just a start. (BTW: I didn't see that one coming, but once those gates were closed and under construction - I think they are ready now - UA will make the move. Their mainline employees will handle those flights, not us.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4791 times:



Quoting T5towbar (Reply 16):
But AA is drawing down, so a gate or two may be available.

STL maybe going, but isn't ORD increasing in frequency?



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3658 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4753 times:



Quoting T5towbar (Reply 8):
The word I hear is that UA is getting a couple of gates (that are presently under construction) at Terminal C.

In which part of C? C1 or C2?

Quoting T5towbar (Reply 21):
You are right that DL doesn't need all of those gates, and someone will move in. Alaska and Westjet would be the prime suspects for that kind of move. And probably AC too.



Quoting T5towbar (Reply 21):
United moving to Terminal C is just a start. (BTW: I didn't see that one coming, but once those gates were closed and under construction - I think they are ready now - UA will make the move. Their mainline employees will handle those flights, not us.

Who handles AC now? Wouldn't they also tag along with UA?



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User currently onlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4711 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 23):
In which part of C? C1 or C2?

C-1 (probably 85 - 86 - 87) Not sure though

Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 23):
Who handles AC now? Wouldn't they also tag along with UA?

Delta Global Services handles AC flights



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25 N62NA : That sounds interesting... Maybe AF will drop EWR and DL will take over the CDG flight with a 763? Yes, but the increase in frequency will be with RJ
26 STT757 : The new flights will be CR-7s, if the Eagle ERJ's are using the Jetways why wouldn't the CR-7s?
27 N62NA : Guess I've been at EWR on off days. The AA ERJs that I've seen had the pax having to walk down the stairs outside of the jetway. But then again, I've
28 Ramprat74 : Aren't those the basement gates? That's even a downgrade from A-1.
29 United1 : I'm not sure if they are in the basement or not but they are former RJ gates that CO is converting back to mainline.
30 DualQual : How much UA Express flying is there anyway? I think only 2-3 a day to IAD. I would guess that could also be consolidated to the C termimal.
31 CALMSP : there is no way they would have mainline flights in C and the express flights in A.........thats just nonsense.
32 AznMadSci : I thought these had been mainline gates for a while now. I know I have departed out of 87 on a mainline EWR-IAH flight. CO or UA? Isn't most of COEx
33 Airzim : The problem with the lower level gates, I don't think UA could fit a 757. They could at the up stairs ones and have two gates for 737's and Express o
34 N62NA : Express is also flying EWR-ORD
35 Ikramerica : Well one reason to take those basement gates in C is that they could also work Express from there. All that's required is a door/gate and a few buses,
36 DeltAirlines : Lounge access is part of the equation. It's probably a good bit cheaper to use the SkyClub rather than using another airline for a lounge. US Airways
37 STT757 : The Port Authority is just about complete with the new screening areas/entrances to the Terminal B concourses, it's going to be a huge improvement an
38 DeltAirlines : Much needed - going through TSA at Terminal B a week or two ago was absolute chaos - them and the security checkpoint at the DL terminals at JFK are
39 Tommy767 : if US closed their club down years ago at EWR why would they want to re-open it? Even if the facilities are nicer at B-1, I don't think they are goin
40 T5towbar : AA still uses jetways for their Chautauqua flights. I think they will be getting back Gate 31, so that leaves them with 6 gates. They just finished a
41 AznMadSci : Dating UA, yes. But sometimes when you date someone, the family is included! And even more messed up, there maybe some history with another family me
42 STT757 : If AA and BA get ATI approval being together in Terminal B might be beneficial to both.
43 CALMSP : why wouldn't UAEX come over? They want to make it hard for those who choose the express flying? THis would actually increase costs, particularly labo
44 STT757 : The Port Authority is having a board meeting today, one of the topics for discussion and to be approved is launching Phase II planning for the EWR Ter
45 N62NA : This would be very confusing for many travellers. And with ORD going to a mix of mainline and RJ, many people who might fly that route somewhat often
46 NYC2TLV : Is there any talk of reinstating the IAH-JFK flights now with the entry in to Star Alliance and the connections available through IAH for carriers lik
47 CODC10 : It wouldn't shock me, but it's not likely that it will return since CO is continuing to shrink its 737 fleet.
48 STT757 : The 737 fleet is actually growing, although less 737-500s and no more 737-300s replaced by 737-800s and 737-900ERs.
49 T5towbar : [quote=N62NA,reply=45]This would be very confusing for many travellers. And with ORD going to a mix of mainline and RJ, many people who might fly that
50 N62NA : Well, lots of big hub airports have the same airline scattered among different terminals (AA in DFW for one), so I suppose so long as there is a shut
51 CALMSP : i still have doubts on having a split operation like this...............i doubt that UA would increase their resources to have a split operation like
52 Post contains links STT757 : Port Authority Board today approves phase II planning for Terminal A at EWR, they approved a BRAND NEW Terminal. Not a remodeled Terminal A with the n
53 CODC10 : There will be fewer 737s in the fleet at YE2009 than there were YE2008. That's why I say the 737 fleet is shrinking. Thankfully, as you point out, 11
54 STT757 : CO has 50 additional 737-800s and 737-900ERs on firm order, along with four former ATA 757-300s CO is acquiring in December/January. 10 737-300s and
55 CODC10 : They aren't all coming at once, in fact, delivery schedules for the bulk of them are hardly finalized. As I point out: I only found the 2010 numbers
56 CODC10 : By the way, saw your post over on FT. Great news re: Terminal A!
57 EwRkId : But isn't the ATI also with LH so wouldn't they move also? But i doub't it because CO is squeezed in over at Terminal C as it is!
58 T5towbar : The can't and wont. Terminal B has better facilities for international Departures and Arrivals. It's all widebody over there (B-2 & B-3) and much bet
59 EwRkId : Thats what I figured and are they making more lounge space for airlines at Terminal B?
60 Post contains links STT757 : The Board also discussed that on a video too with plenty of photos and renderings. Discussion begins at the 13:22 mark, the photos/renderings are at
61 Post contains links AznMadSci : On a slightly related note, from the CO board on FTalker, Star Alliance Press Conference will be taking place at EWR on 27Oct. There's a link to watch
62 OP3000 : EWR was already *A heavy for long haul, now with CO the likes of TP, SK, AI and SQ are getting a big connectivity boost. They will gladly settle for b
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