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ONT - Disneyland Look To Promote Use Airport  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

I guess a novel idea to encourage tourist to shift their choice of airport to ONT in return for transportation, rebates, or early admission at the park.

Quote:
Disneyland via Ontario Airport plan afoot
October 19, 2009

Before Disneyland-bound tourists book their flights, officials with Los Angeles World Airports hope offers of fare rebates, shuttle rides on area freeways and, perhaps, early admission to the theme park will be enough incentive for them to choose Ontario International Airport.

In a plan that may not be implemented until next summer and aims to shift air travel to the Inland airport, a consultant to LAWA -- the Los Angeles city agency that owns and operates Ontario and Los Angeles International airports -- has proposed linking Ontario to Disneyland both physically and through promotions with the theme park.

A formal agreement with Disneyland hasn't been signed, she said. But offers to passengers flying into Ontario airport could include a rebate on their air fare, early admission into the theme park, hotel discounts and more.

Full story:
http://www.pe.com/business/local/sto...es/PE_Biz_S_airport20.3b0c71d.html


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

Excellent idea: I've always thought that Disneyland could use their version of Disney's Magical Express service that's offered at MCO for free to the Disney resort hotel guests. If you've ever used it, you'll know what I mean. (Since Disneyland has fewer Disney-owned hotel rooms than Walt Disney World, the service could be expanded to Disney Good Neighbor Hotels). And making it exclusive to ONT would make it a unique incentive to choose the airport. Offering Disneyland Resort Extra Magic Hours to ONT flyers or fare rebates with a Disney Park Hopper ticket purchase of three days or more would definitely work, too.

But ONT needs more service, too. Maybe WN, UA, DL, AS, and others could step up to the plate and add more flights as part of the deal... even Disney can't get people to fly to ONT if there aren't enough flights. I noticed that WN is adding MDW in April, a much-needed route for ONT, and here's some more ideas:
DL: DTW, MSP, and more frequent ATL service
WN: ABQ, DEN, HOU, RNO, MCI, PDX
UA: ORD (I once flew UA from ORD-ONT in the early 90s on a 735, when I lived in Chicago)



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User currently offlineMogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

knowing LA's traffic jams, you need to indeed provide a LOT of incentives for me to suffer the hike out to ONT compared to SNA that's right next door.

Even LGB is much closer (but still a good 25-35 min ride).

Maybe LAWA is really desperate to stem the exodus happening at ONT ?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2901 times:



Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 2):
knowing LA's traffic jams, you need to indeed provide a LOT of incentives for me to suffer the hike out to ONT compared to SNA that's right next door.



Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 2):

Even LGB is much closer (but still a good 25-35 min ride).

The specific traffic flows between Disneyland and ONT are actually not bad at all. Also, both SNA and LGB have artificial capacity restrictions that hurt the idea of a partnership of this magnitude.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2895 times:



Quoting MogandoCI (Reply 2):
Maybe LAWA is really desperate to stem the exodus happening at ONT ?

No LAWA's primary goal is to reduce traffic at LAX. Matter of fact they are under a court stipulated agreement and are required to pursue and to encourage use of other regional airports.

As the article states 1.8 million LAX flyers are destined for Disneyland. If a good portion of these could be shifted to ONT, that is less flyers at LAX and accomplished the goal.



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User currently offlineChrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2001 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2839 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
The specific traffic flows between Disneyland and ONT are actually not bad at all.

Have you ever driven the 57 freeway during rush hour? If the 57 isn't bad around the 60/57 split in Brea as you go over the hill, the 10 east through Pomona and Ontario is miserable.

ONT is a really nice airport though.


User currently offlineMrSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

Tell you what, if LAWA ever finds the funding to get some sort of high-speed uninterrupted transportation between LAX and ONT, I'll use ONT 95% of the time.. and I commute to LAX from about 1 hr's drive north of LAX.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2787 times:



Quoting Chrisair (Reply 5):
Have you ever driven the 57 freeway during rush hour? If the 57 isn't bad around the 60/57 split in Brea as you go over the hill, the 10 east through Pomona and Ontario is miserable.

It got worse after they built that big interchange, but the flows actually move rather well most of the day, especially during the off times that people are most likely traveling between the two.



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User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

They need to do something with ONT. It's a ghost town these days. The hayday was in the mid to late 90's before the new terminal opened up.

They shut off the whole east end of terminal 2. Your lucky to have a eatery open when your flight leaves. They should combine ops into one terminal only. All the airlines could fit into the 14 gates in Terminal 4.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2723 times:



Quoting MrSkyGuy (Reply 6):
Tell you what, if LAWA ever finds the funding to get some sort of high-speed uninterrupted transportation between LAX and ONT

Why on earth would they do that?

The closest you might get is if and ever the MTA concept of extending the Gold Line to the Inland Empire come to light, but that likely is 2020 or beyond.



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4939 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2713 times:



Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 8):


They shut off the whole east end of terminal 2. Your lucky to have a eatery open when your flight leaves. They should combine ops into one terminal only. All the airlines could fit into the 14 gates in Terminal 4.

Wow really? So what gates are still in use in T2? I haven't worked at or flown out of ONT since 2007, so I'm totally out of the loop.



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User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

I believe gates 210/211/212. The gates Delta used. I think the Carl's Jr was in that part of the terminal.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2629 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 9):

Why on earth would they do that?

To gain much needed improved access to the airport.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 9):
The closest you might get is if and ever the MTA concept of extending the Gold Line to the Inland Empire come to light, but that likely is 2020 or beyond.

That isn't a concept, but a firm plan. The concept still under study is whether to extend beyond Claremont/Montclair to ONT.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8868 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2607 times:



Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 11):
I believe gates 210/211/212. The gates Delta used. I think the Carl's Jr was in that part of the terminal.

It's basically the whole connector past the Applebee's down to 210/211/212 - where ExpressJet and Delta were. I don't recall any food being down there, but there was a newsstand there back in December 2006 that was shut down when I made a few ONT trips last fall about this time of year. Delta is now using 208/209, the gates across from Applebee's. United has 201/202, Alaska has 205/206, Continental has 207, Delta 208/209. Interestingly, Aeromexico's daily flight shows regularly is seen on the flight departure boards as using 211 (one of the old Delta gates). US and AA have 1 gate and WN has 4 gates in T4, so combining the two terminals would be difficult to do.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2607 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 12):
To gain much needed improved access to the airport.

Again why connect two airports together at the cost of a few billion.  Confused

If anything LAX and ONT in due time might get their own seperate rail connections but certainly not to each other. (well technically LAX already has an adjacent rail link)



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User currently offlineMdw22L31C From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 204 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

The bus trip from ONT to Disneyland is all HOV lanes on the 60/57 plus at the 57/60 interchange has flyover HOV lanes. 45min point to point. I see LAX/Disneyland buses on 91 HOV lanes just sitting the traffic

User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2246 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 13):
so combining the two terminals would be difficult to do

Look at all the airlines and flight operating out of 14 gates at SNA. If they had to, they could do it.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5229 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

ONT is a beautiful airport -- it's just not in the right place. And until LAX is really over-crowded and gridlocked, ONT will remain the most under-utilized airport in California.

When I saw G4 start service recently at LAX, it was confirmed to me that THAT is the airport that people want to fly in and out of. Some day, ONT will really be needed and the LA-area will be glad to start using it. But 'til then...

The debate here on A.net about freeways and traffic from eastern LA to the coast and Disneyland was going hot-and-heavy back when rumors were flying about the San Bernardino airport getting scheduled service (e.g., from G4?) I joined the side of the debate that would under no circumstances fly into anywhere in San Berdu (inc ONT) and then have to drive down to OC!

Good luck to all parties involved in this promotion but I don't think it's gonna work...

bb


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24641 posts, RR: 86
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2172 times:
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Why don't they re-name it "Ontario Disneyland Airport."

Then at least people outside of California would know a clue as to where it is. LOL.  Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8868 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2152 times:



Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 16):
Look at all the airlines and flight operating out of 14 gates at SNA. If they had to, they could do it.

If they're willing to go CUTE (as SNA is), it'd be very possible - if CUTE was used throughout this country, it would be a lot easier to get gate space at pretty much any airport in the country.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2011 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 14):
(well technically LAX already has an adjacent rail link)

No way. The G Shuttle does not count.



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User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

I "lived" in the Marriott at ONT for about three months and didn't find the drive to SNA all that bad. When I couldn't get into ONT for whatever reason I would fly into SNA so I make the drive on a somewhat regular basis.
I think that ONT is a hidden gem waiting to be found out! Its a great airport but there are a lot of people who have no idea about it including people who live right in the inland empire! If they could just get rid of the traffic police that have a fit when you try to cross the road without using the crosswalk everything would be perfect!

**The ONT Marriott has got to be the worst Marriott I have ever stayed in. The service was a complete joke and that is when you could get all of the employees ghetto friends away from the front desk to get service. I would NEVER stay in that dump again and I wouldn't advise anyone else do it either!**



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