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Will BA Have Arrivals Lounge In T3 LHR?  
User currently offlineFiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 326 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

When the BA and QF flights from Singapore and Bangkok start to use T3 at LHR after the 29th October, will BA have an arrivals lounge in that terminal ?, or will you still have to travel to T5.

Thanks

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User currently offlineAlitaliaDC10 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

I think that the American Airlines Arrivals lounge will be used for arriving QF from SYD/MEL/HKG/BKK/SIN and BA pax arriving from SYD/BKK/SIN.

In the past BA has used this lounge when their MIA flights arrived at T3.

It is meant to be quite nice - I have not used it yet. Planning to later on in the year.



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User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 837 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4599 times:



Quoting Fiscal (Thread starter):
When the BA and QF flights from Singapore and Bangkok start to use T3 at LHR after the 29th October, will BA have an arrivals lounge in that terminal ?, or will you still have to travel to T5

The Qantas website just says an arrival lounge will be available to use 'at Heathrow'. I do hope its in the same terminal!



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User currently offlineAlitaliaDC10 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4453 times:



Quoting APYu (Reply 2):
The Qantas website just says an arrival lounge will be available to use 'at Heathrow'. I do hope its in the same terminal!

I agree it is rather vague - maybe they haven't finalised the deal yet. It could be that BA will bus the pax to T5 arrivals as it is presently doing for its T4 arriving pax since the arrivals lounge shut there. QF pax haven't been eligible to use the T5 arrivals.

I called QF locally and they were unable to confirm exactly which lounge would be used. However I'm pretty sure it will be AA. It wouldn't make sense to bus pax to T5.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 871 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4422 times:



Quoting AlitaliaDC10 (Reply 3):
It could be that BA will bus the pax to T5 arrivals as it is presently doing for its T4 arriving pax since the arrivals lounge shut there. QF pax haven't been eligible to use the T5 arrivals.

QF pax have indeed been eligible for the T5 arrivals lounge for the past few months after QF reached agreement with BA.

In T3, both BA and QF pax will use the AA facility.


User currently offlineAlitaliaDC10 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4384 times:



Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 4):
QF pax have indeed been eligible for the T5 arrivals lounge for the past few months after QF reached agreement with BA.

thanks for the update...when I arrived in June I was given a stern no...the only QF pax allowed were those booked under the BA marketed/QF operated service excluding the MEL-HKG-LHR which arrived too late to use it anyway...

Glad to hear they changed the policy to allow QF.

A bit late now given they move to T3 in 6 days... Smile



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User currently offlineFiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4337 times:



Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 4):
In T3, both BA and QF pax will use the AA facility.

Thats good to hear. I asked the BA online help, but got a non specific reply, so that is better than having to transfer.

Thanks


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4293 times:
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A simple question and pardon my ignorance, but why did BA decide to use T4 and now T3 for its SYD/SIN/BKK sectors since they have brand new state of the art T5 ?

QF-BA partnership issues ?
In that case why didn't "historical" partner QF move to T5 ?

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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4276 times:

T5 is full.

With only T5A and T5B even BA has to split ops between T5 and another terminal. Given the HATTS will be extended from T5A-T5B-T5C to T5D-T3B-T3A-T2A-T2B-T2C-T4, the obvious choice of the other terminal if split ops is still required after T5D opens would be T3 as it is closest on the HATTS.

There will also be a branch line from between T3A and T2A to T6A-T6B-T6C when the third runway opens.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 871 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4198 times:



Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 8):
Given the HATTS will be extended from T5A-T5B-T5C to T5D-T3B-T3A-T2A-T2B-T2C-T4, the obvious choice of the other terminal if split ops is still required after T5D opens would be T3 as it is closest on the HATTS.

There will also be a branch line from between T3A and T2A to T6A-T6B-T6C when the third runway opens.

Don't know where you got this from. There is no T5D. There are currently remote stands past T5C but there is no building known as T5D. All plans to T5 have always been for 3 buildings ie, T5A/B/C. Similarly, there is no T3A/B, T2A/B etc. There appears to have been some discussion around the TTS to T3, but AFAIK there has been no firm plans to extend it past T5. The TTS is used to get passengers to and from the T5 gates. It is not used to transfer passengers between terminals.

Also, T3 was chosen as the Oneworld terminal as it is closest to T5 and LHR is being organised around alliances. with T3/5 being OW, T1/2/East being Star and T4 being Skyteam. Non-aligned carriers will be split between the various terminals.


User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4054 times:



Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 9):
Don't know where you got this from. There is no T5D.

Trust me there will be. The fuel farms and fire station will go by 2018. Stands will be built first as remotes and T5D will be built subsequently but with no confirmed timescale at the moment. The spacing of the taxiways and T3 Pier 7 or T3B has already been designed to accommodate T5D.

There will be 14 Code E/F stands with MARSing.

Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 9):
Similarly, there is no T3A/B, T2A/B etc.

Similarly for T3 and T2 (formerly Heathrow East).

I suggest you dig around the web. It is not difficult to find Heathrow's full plan for future development.

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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4033 times:



Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 10):
Similarly for T3 and T2 (formerly Heathrow East).

Forgot to say for T2, the current plan is for T2A, T2B, T2C. Land for a future T2D will be safeguarded for when it is required.

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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4019 times:



Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 9):
Also, T3 was chosen as the Oneworld terminal as it is closest to T5 and LHR is being organised around alliances. with T3/5 being OW, T1/2/East being Star and T4 being Skyteam. Non-aligned carriers will be split between the various terminals.

And the reason T3 being OW instead of say, T4? There you go.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 871 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3960 times:

I don't know where you got those drawings and info from, but none of the official meetings and briefings I have been in or the official redevelopment plans I have seen look anything like those.

AFAIK, the official planning permission for T5 was only ever for 3 passenger buildings (plus associated auxillary buidlings). Indeed, according to official House of Commons documents and the BAA's website:

"In addition to the main terminal building, T5 also consists of two satellite buildings (the second of which will be completed by 2011)" - BAA.com

Also suggest http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/briefings/snbt-01136.pdf

It makes no mention of a third satellite, in any documents that I have seen. To include another satellite, will require further planning permission. The stands in the area known as T5D were only ever planned as remote stands for T5/T3 overflow.

T3 stands and piers are indeed being realigned, but that is more inline with the overall redevelopment of LHR. Indeed part of this redevelopment could see the TTS beign extended and would require tunnelling to be undertaken and shafts dug.


User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 871 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3923 times:



Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 10):
Trust me there will be.

Have made a few enquiries and been sent a copy of the BAA Heathrow Capital Investment Plan 2009. As I said before, the T5D stands are already there and in use as remote parking stands and there has been no decision on any satellite being built. The TTS link has been mentioned as a possibility due to the aspiration of BA and Oneworld to operate a joint campus and to allow for easy tranfer of passengers. Same goes for linking all terminals either by a sub-surface system, with the possibility of T4 and any future T6 included. Again, this is all at the consultation phase with no firm plans in place. Indeed BAA states at the start of the document

"In line with HAL’s Annex G1 commitments this document is effectively a “snapshot” of
HAL’s capital investment plans as at the time of publication and is not documentation of
a mandatory, fixed or confirmed investment programme for either Heathrow Airport or
Heathrow Express."


User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2815 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3783 times:



Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 9):
Don't know where you got this from.

It's their aspiration. Even without the third runway, they want to expand T5 with a third satellite just to the west of T3, which will also be revamped by replacing pier 7 with a new satellite, accessible by TTS in addition to new stands and concourses to the North. They will then build a connector to new T2, which will have a second satellite on the old maintenance area as part of phase 2.

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