FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11 Posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8160 times:
Anyone flown this route recently? Rememer the huge thread a while back when they announced they will be introducing "BusinessElite Service" between the city pairs. The issue was whether or not there will be the BizElite service we see on internationl flights or just the cabin and seats with regular domestic first service.
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8149 times:
Yes, international BusinessElite items such as duvets, large feather pillows, noise-cancelling headsets, proper silverware, linen, table settings, etc., have all been rolled out to both JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO. Meal is almost international Business-Elite like though an upgraded menu, including special wine selections, etc., will be rolled out sometime in mid-November. WiFi to come also around November (or December?)...
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7907 times:
Quoting RIX (Reply 3): Lounge access? To me, obviously, yes, but as I was denied it by UA flying domestic Business a year ago...
Yes, complimentary SkyClub access is included for all Business Class pax between JFK and LAX/SFO/SEA/PDX/SAN, regardless of whether the pax was upgraded to Business Class or using an award ticket. Lounge access has been part of the deal even before the introduction of this upgraded BE service between JFK and LAX/SFO.
GayStudPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 453 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7205 times:
Is this service only on the BE configured 757s? Or is it being offered in domestic F on those routes also?
I was on SFO-JFK a couple of weeks ago. Part of "phase 1" had been rolled out, but no table linens (paper placemats instead), no large pillow, no duvet. However, the overall service was a vast improvement from recent years.
I actually preferred the ice cream truffle to the sundae... which to me, after all the food that's been served to that point, is just indicative of the OBESITY problem we have in the States.
CokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1184 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7092 times:
Quoting GayStudPilot (Reply 13): So the service will disappear as aircraft are re-deployed on Int'l routes as demand recovers.
That's what I was thinking, but others on here believe that we have enough Intl 75's to
go around with the addition of the NW intl 75's. I guess we will see by the spring time
or perhaps earlier.
I hope they don't do this just to drop it.. Then again, we have seen it before
Aware From Australia, joined Sep 1999, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6875 times:
Our American friends have stubbornly refused to change their use of the word entrée to reflect that it should refer to a starter or less substantial course in a meal (the irony being the substantial size of an entrée in the standard US restaurant). Those foreign languages are very confusing.
Quoting Aware (Reply 17): Our American friends have stubbornly refused to change their use of the word entrée to reflect that it should refer to a starter or less substantial course in a meal (the irony being the substantial size of an entrée in the standard US restaurant). Those foreign languages are very confusing.
Yep. Quirk of our dialect, which tends to use more French words but not always in the right context.
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4018 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6127 times:
Quoting RIX (Reply 6): good to see DL doing it for real. UA's "only international pax can get there" was laughably Soviet-like, and the whole service was a joke (free lunch boxes...)..
What? This doesn't make sense. I've become a critic of UA but have to say it sounds like your're saying they are catering IAD-DME with domestic BOB meals served complimentary to the J cabin on the few and far between three class a/c? This should be catered at what UA say is international unless they forgot to think about those who bring in the revenue to keep them in the air..
Will they be posting what the actual menu will be?
Since this route is now flying with a BE product vs transcon F, did the fares go up accordingly or have they basically kept them the same for the time being to promote the new & enhanced service.
No matter how remote it might be, is there a chance they will treat the main cabin like international and re-instate meal service over BOB.
DLATL777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 21 hours ago) and read 5409 times:
Quoting AM001 (Reply 22):
So I take it that whenever a 763 appears on the itinerary after November for any LAX-JFK, it will be already featuring the BE seats and service?
Also, DL's reservation system already labels the service as "Business" and not "First"...
You need to know a few things about the DL reservation first.
1. The denotation of "Business" vs "First" means nothing from a domestic perspective; Any flight with a flight # that is either a continuating or terminating leg of a international flight with the same flight # causes the forward cabin to become "Business" (case and point, DL 19 used to travel LGA-ATL-PVG, the LGA-ATL was a domestic configured 757, while ATL-PVG was of course an internationally BE configured 777-200ER; The LGA-ATL portion was still labeled as "Business").
2. Yes, anytime a 767-300ER appears on this route it will be an internationally configured bird with Business Elite style seats.
Tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5056 times:
Quoting Panamair (Reply 4): Yes, complimentary SkyClub access is included for all Business Class pax between JFK and LAX/SFO/SEA/PDX/SAN, regardless of whether the pax was upgraded to Business Class or using an award ticket.
Yes this is true. In march I flew LAX-JFK-BOS and supposed to fly BOS-JFK-LAX but instead did BOS-ATL-LAX because BOS-JFK was cancelled for weather. I was able to use the clubs in LAX, JFK, and BOS. My favorite club was JFK because of all the free snacks they have out for the international pax in the afternoon. LAX is nice and had some free stuff, BOS was new and kind of bland but had Sam Adams on draft.
Quoting MCOAviationFan (Reply 8): On Nov.1, DL will roll out the following on transcon flights between JFK and LAX/SFO.
Hope that I get upgraded to F on these flights as a silver. I'm flying LAX-JFK-LAX for thanksgiving and checked the seat maps before booking and they look pretty open.
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
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