McCarranMGR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7651 times:
Just a reminder for you spotters out there British Airways starts daily LHR-LAS 772 service tomorrow 10/25. LAS is rolling out the red carpet for the arrival. This includes a wash down. Yes there will be lights set up since it will be after sunset for the 1920 scheduled arrival.
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1616 posts, RR: 6 Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7631 times:
For some reason, this flight is not garnishing the attention you would expect. Maybe A.net has too many VAA fans
Super80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1642 posts, RR: 11 Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7565 times:
I just checked the loads for the inaugural flight using the BA nonrev travel website. The 4 class 777 currently has 2 seats open in Club, and 1 seat open in World Traveler Plus. There are 9 people listed for standby on the flight, so I am assuming every seat will go out full. Nice going BA!
[Edited 2009-10-24 21:25:03]
Right now there is an AA MD-80 flying over my house.
Theginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1112 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7190 times:
Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 2): I just checked the loads for the inaugural flight using the BA nonrev travel website. The 4 class 777 currently has 2 seats open in Club, and 1 seat open in World Traveler Plus. There are 9 people listed for standby on the flight, so I am assuming every seat will go out full. Nice going BA!
I would imagine quite a nunber of seats on the first flight will be filled by guests of BA, eg Press etc. But I can see this flight doing very well as it is only the 2nd direct Vegas flight from Europe.
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3086 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6907 times:
Are there any other Europe-LAS flights in operation? AFAIK LH/ LX/ OS/ BD don't operate to LAS, so BA should be able to get the benefit of being the only operator.
LHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 18 Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6846 times:
Quoting Nimish (Reply 5): Are there any other Europe-LAS flights in operation? AFAIK LH/ LX/ OS/ BD don't operate to LAS, so BA should be able to get the benefit of being the only operator.
VS LGW-LAS - although not great for onward connections through Europe. BA really seem to be marketing this around connecting through T5.
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McCarranMGR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6816 times:
Thomas Cook operates twice weekly A332 Manchester-LAS service. Condor also operates twice weekly 763 FRA-LAS service. XL Airways has announced intentions to begin twice weekly CDG-LAS service starting in May 2010.
VikingA346 From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 500 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4594 times:
Quoting Jack02116 (Reply 8): isnt the 777 on this route a 3 class config - no first class?
Typically, yes it will be a 3-class 777. I guess today they chose a 4-class to accomodate those VIPs that may be traveling to inaugurate this flight... Willie might be on the bird..
G-YMMH operating BA275 today.
...you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you shall return
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1616 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3522 times:
McCarranMGR...Weak return bookings out of Las Vegas: can you imagine that? For years, I have repeatedly said, Las Vegas is it's own worst enemy. The airport and the LVCA are so hell bent on bringing passengers into the city, they completely ignore assisting airlines in promoting these foreign carriers to locals. With constant changes in the balance of the world economies, it would behoove the city of Las Vegas to promote to locals, these international services. My thinking is, when inbound traffic encounters soft periods, the local population could be supporting the flights by flying outbound, but this never happens because the local population knows nothing about these flights. They are poorly promoted and the average Las Vegan doesn't even know about Virgin, Korean Air, Philippine A/L's, Condor, etc. I am sure you can add BA to this list too. In my opinion it is just selfishness in that a local person may occupy a potential seat that could be an inbound tourist. I would much rather sacrifice a certain amount of seats per flight to local Las Vegans, in order to maintain the longevity of the service. Otherwise, these airlines will join the ranks of JAL, Singapore, NWA (Int'l) and the others, that have left here.
LASoctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3439 times:
I managed to see BA275 on 25L just before it exited (onto A6, I think..) while i was on the Sunset exit from the Airport Tunnel.. If only I'd left a few minutes earlier, I'd have been able to see it! I think it was too dark for a video, but I brought the video camera anyway.. If I was smart, I should have gone up to the parking garage to at least catch the washdown..
Bongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3046 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3259 times:
Quoting McCarranMGR (Reply 4): According to BA the next couple of months show strong outbound bookings. Return bookings LAS-LHR appear to be lagging somewhat.
Obviously return bookings will always lag outbound on a route which is primarily laid on for passengers travelling to a destination, by this I mean that Vegas is a holiday/conference destination where the vast majority of flights from Europe particularly in winter are from incomers, as opposed to local residents flying out.
Part of this may be due to older UK citizens taking extended winter holidays to avoid our grotty weather. They would probably be taking near to the maximum 90 days allowed under a visa waiver.
Another factor could be fly/drive holidays where the entry and exit routes are different. Pasengers entering via LAS might be exiting via LAS or SFO.
McCarranMGR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3036 times:
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 13): ...Weak return bookings out of Las Vegas: can you imagine that? For years, I have repeatedly said, Las Vegas is it's own worst enemy. The airport and the LVCA are so hell bent on bringing passengers into the city, they completely ignore assisting airlines in promoting these foreign carriers to locals. With constant changes in the balance of the world economies, it would behoove the city of Las Vegas to promote to locals, these international services. My thinking is, when inbound traffic encounters soft periods, the local population could be supporting the flights by flying outbound, but this never happens because the local population knows nothing about these flights. They are poorly promoted and the average Las Vegan doesn't even know about Virgin, Korean Air, Philippine A/L's, Condor, etc.
While I do agree with you on the most part, the "average" Las Vegan does not travel to these destinations offered by these carriers. They are more worried about getting on the next (cheap) SWA or G4 flight to the middle of nowhere in the USA. Add in 13% + unemployment right now in the state, the highest home foreclosure rate in the country, and the overall economic environment I wouldn’t expect to see the “average” Las Vegan even thinking about taking a trip like this for the next couple of years.
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 13): I am sure you can add BA to this list too. In my opinion it is just selfishness in that a local person may occupy a potential seat that could be an inbound tourist. I would much rather sacrifice a certain amount of seats per flight to local Las Vegans, in order to maintain the longevity of the service. Otherwise, these airlines will join the ranks of JAL, Singapore, NWA (Int'l) and the others, that have left here.
The current international carriers are showing still very good load factors, this includes Virgin who is the only one operating daily service to its destination. Only time will tell if this will remain the case. I also believe it will be very interesting to watch what happens with Virgins load factors a few months in to the BA service. BA serves Heathrow while Virgin provides service to Gatwick.
Bongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3046 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2821 times:
Todays Telegraph shows one very happy traveller on the inaguaral flight:
Willie Walsh with a Vegas showgirl on each arm, plus a rather large grin on his face.
Gearup380 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 85 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2684 times:
Taking this flight for Christmas. As a European living in Las Vegas, this is the best possible connection back home out there right now.
Dbudd From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 228 posts, RR: 24 Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2496 times:
If your aware that there is a band of local spotters..why don't you work with us to get good shots of Speedbird in the database..
I've spotted LAS for Four years now and have many older classic shots and some newer pics in the DB.
National757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 717 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2304 times:
Taking this flight next May and connecting to Barcelona for the Formula One Spanish Grand Prix!
Let's hope this new service lasts...
Formula 1 Grand Prix Trips: YUL '08, MEL '09, BCN '10, SIN '11, and LGW '12
LASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1885 times:
Quoting Dbudd (Reply 21): If your aware that there is a band of local spotters..why don't you work with us to get good shots of Speedbird in the database..
I've spotted LAS for Four years now and have many older classic shots and some newer pics in the DB.
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