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WSJ: Pan Am First Class Cabin In Man's House  
User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6437 posts, RR: 34
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 17553 times:

For nostalgia buffs, the article, vid and slideshow from the WSJ should be an inspiration...

In One Man's Garage, Pan Am Still Makes the Going Great
Mr. Toth's First-Class Obsession Recreates Defunct Airline's Cabin (Spiral Stairs, Too)

Fliers nostalgic for the golden era of air travel might want to book a trip to Anthony Toth's garage.

Mr. Toth has built a precise replica of a first-class cabin from a Pan Am World Airways 747 in the garage of his two-bedroom condo in Redondo Beach, Calif. The setup includes almost everything fliers in the late 1970s and 1980s would have found onboard: pairs of red-and-blue reclining seats, original overhead luggage bins and a curved, red-carpeted staircase.




http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125650482699406669.html


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 17445 times:

Man oh man, why can't I be related to this guy? How cool is that?

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20336 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 17319 times:

I bow to a superior geek.

You, Mr. Toth, are truly geekier than just about anyone on this site. And for that, sir, we owe your our supreme respect.

 thumbsup 


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 17290 times:

Cool. But all that work, and he cheaps out on the upholstery.  Wink


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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 17254 times:

Damn! All I have is a row of first class seats from a Pan Am 727 and a window panel from a TWA 727. I feel empowered now!!!!!!


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User currently offlineLH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 17237 times:

What is his nickname on a.net?  Wink


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 17106 times:



Quoting LH648 (Reply 5):
What is his nickname on a.net?  

He has to be on here... the article mentions the word obsession.... Smile

Apparently he works for United as a global sales director...anyone on here know him? I'd love to get a tour of the place....



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8500 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16948 times:
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Looks good but we have come a long way from partial flat seats in First Class to flat seats in Business Class, First are now suites.

User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16729 times:



Quoting United1 (Reply 6):
He has to be on here... the article mentions the word obsession....

Apparently he works for United as a global sales director...anyone on here know him? I'd love to get a tour of the place....

He'd be smart not to reveal himself here -- if he does he's going to get flooded with messages from a.netters requesting tours of his place.  Smile


User currently offlineNetjetsINTL From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16668 times:

anyone heard the phrase "only in California"......

User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16652 times:



Quoting United1 (Reply 6):
Apparently he works for United as a global sales director...anyone on here know him? I'd love to get a tour of the place....

The WSJ actually got this from a post I did on Cranky Flier. (The author is an old friend who spoke with me about it a couple months ago.)

If you really want to get in touch with Anthony, he had me put a list of things he trying to acquire along with his email address on the blog. Here's his top 5:
1. First Class pneumatic headsets from the early 80’s…
2. Swatch of the clipper class fabric
3. Upper deck screen with the ship etched in gold on it.
4. Clipper class headrests
5. Trays. The fullsize ones used for Clipper and First meals.

And his email is ajtoth@earthlink.net. If you can help, that would be excellent. (I have a lot of pics linked from the blog as well.)


User currently offlineDL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1987 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14969 times:

It's a shame that DL had truckloads of PA 747 and A300 equipment (1980's seat covers, PSU's, closets, etc.) that got shipped to ATL in 1991. All of it went into dumpsters by the mid 1990's.


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User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14859 times:



Quoting NetjetsINTL (Reply 9):

Not really...do a bit of homework and pay some shipping fees and anyone can get goodies like Anthony. May not be Pan Am but TWA new generation complete interiors were hanging out to dry in AZ...first class seats, wall panels, spiral stair case, carpeted movie screens with the globes on them, carpet...anything you wanted, some back east here as well. Scrappers sell that stuff cheap...sometimes give it away...shipping is the biggest expense. Unless a scrapyard can sell off the entire interior as a shipset, basically they will part out to anyone...j


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26147 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14107 times:

Here is the Market Watch video and interview

http://www.marketwatch.com/video/ass...EB3763-8601-46C4-B6F6-F71C0C0BE629



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User currently offlineNewyork355 From France, joined Jul 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13920 times:

I'll skip the tour and just have him upload those vintage photos! But really, I love what he did and think that he has done a fabulous job with it.


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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13882 times:

I would have to assume that he is not married....

User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13819 times:
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So 40 years later, the main difference is leather on the seats?




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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6132 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13707 times:



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 16):
So 40 years later, the main difference is leather on the seats?

Not exactly, the seats that Mr. Toth is sitting in are the days equivalent of International First Class. In essence the 70/80s IFC seats have become the domestic first seats of today.



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User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 861 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13472 times:

I think the refrence was between the old cloth seats of yor, compared to the Leather seats we see now. Besides leather is easier to maintain and lasts longer than cloth seats. However it is a bummber he may not find a swatch of the old cloth style. That stuff was almost as rough as burlap if you ask me.
JD CRPXE



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3714 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13293 times:

I wish I could find it, but an Aussie a.netter wrote a trip report that took place at his place. He had a bunch of old QF items such as the old blue J seats, beverage cart, and I believe a print from Wunala Dreaming. It was an interesting trip report!

Also, I don't know if this is true, but I vaguely remember on ABC's 20/20 back in the 80s and I was a little kid then, I believe Barbara Walters interview Billy Crystal and he had one of the smaller bathrooms fitted out like an airplane lavatory.



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User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1792 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13024 times:

Ooh... did Pan Am have such ill-fitting seat upholsteries as well?


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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 12996 times:



Quoting SQ772 (Reply 20):

WellI have no idea, I want to also know why the upholstery is terrible. and I doubt the Real Pan Am was that way.

the TWA F/C seats you can buy from AZ have nice cloth and not loose like what he has?

Maybe he felt putting extra cloth on it was a better idea than putting plastic all over his furniture Big grin



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User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1304 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12862 times:

The overhead bin doors are wrong. But other than that, I am truly impressed.

-J.



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User currently offlineHugo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12714 times:

I have a Clipper Class cabin with authentic sidewalls, seats, bins, and galley in my attic. I created it over ten years ago.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25999 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 12132 times:



Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 22):
The overhead bin doors are wrong. But other than that, I am truly impressed.

That's not the only thing wrong. The wall/window panels are from a DC-10. The bins look like they're from a 757 or 733/734/735. They're definitely not original 747 bins or the much larger bins Pan Am and many other 747 operators installed later. And the seats aren't authentic Pan Am 747 seats.


25 Thrufru : I think he did a fantastic job, and those of you pointing out errors or perceived short comings are just "plane" rude! Without the advantage of actual
26 Bojangles : When I read the title of this thread before opening it, I thought "Gotta be a geeky queen I'd cross the street to avoid'. And sure enough.... HOWEVER
27 MadameConcorde : Wooohooo! this is reallllly nice!!!! Congrats to him! What a nice replica! I wonder if anyone will ever replicate a Concorde cabin ?
28 Wexfordflyer : Not but have often heard the phrase "only in America"............ This does take obession truly to the next level.......but if it is what you love!
29 September11 : Carpet looks 1 inch thick ................
30 Beechnut : I'd rather have the cockpit section hooked up to MS Flight Sim Or better yet, a used full-motion simulator but I doubt I could afford the upkeep on o
31 Rheinwaldner : Cool! As another thought: If somebody would reconstruct an SQ and an EK A380 suite you'd had nearly everything you need to live!
32 Mtaabq : I think he did a fantastic job, and those of you pointing out errors or perceived short comings are just "plane" rude! I have to agree with Thrufru.
33 Ikramerica : Hats off to him, sure. Fantastic? Hardly. It sounds as if the covers are temporary until he can find a similar fabric, but they look AWFUL. Like beds
34 Post contains links Panamair : For those too young to remember: Pan Am's First Class seats on the 747s were "Sleeperette" seats which stretched about 3-4 windows long with 55-60" se
35 Viscount724 : However the Sleeperette seats weren't the original seats. For the first few years of 747 service, PA, like all others, used standard F class seats at
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