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Brussels Airlines Incident: Hyd. Fluid In Cabin  
User currently offlineFlanders From Belgium, joined Oct 2008, 116 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6915 times:

A Brussels Airlines Avro RJ-100, registration OO-DWK performing flight SN-2588 from Berlin Tegel (Germany) to Brussels (Belgium) with 74 passengers and 4 creew, had safely landed at Brussels' National Airport and was taxiing to the terminal, when four passengers were hit by hot hydraulics fluid onto their faces and arms. Emergency services responded, the passengers were taken to a local hospital.

Emergency services reported, that the passengers received minor injuries, mainly burns.

The airline reported, that it is not yet clear what went wrong.

Source: The Aviation Herald

Weird, really weird. First time I hear about such an incident!

Flanders.

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User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2726 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6898 times:



Quoting Flanders (Thread starter):
when four passengers were hit by hot hydraulics fluid onto their faces and arms.

Yikes! That sounds extremly painful. Thoughts goes to those passenger. So unlucky. I have never heard of anything similar.



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6722 times:

First I've ever heard of hydraulic fluid in the cabin, should be interesting to hear how this came about... As for the passengers I hope they recover soon, hydraulic fluid in an operating system is usually running at both a high pressure and hot temperature, so I can only imagine how much that woulda hurt.


CanadianNorth



What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6674 times:

But, on the top of it :

how does it comes that hyd fluid lines passes right behind pax cabin panels ?!?


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5725 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6456 times:

When I first saw the title to the thread, I wondered how it was possible.... and then I read that it was an Avro.

Quoting Max777geek (Reply 3):
how does it comes that hyd fluid lines passes right behind pax cabin panels ?!?

The Avro RJ is a high-wing aircraft, so hydraulic lines between engines and systems will pass through the ceiling.


In any event, having Skydrol get on you is NOT a pleasant experience... it will burn your skin even if you've just splashed it out of a bucket. But having it sprayed at you is an entirely worse situation. A fellow mechanic of mine had this happen... not pretty. He got it in his eyes, though... hope none of the passengers got it in the eye!


User currently offlineJalap From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6224 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):
He got it in his eyes, though... hope none of the passengers got it in the eye!

Unfortunately, they did. I read an interview with a man who had a window seat and got some of that fluid in his eyes. He has good hopes to make a full recovery but claimed that the people who had a aisle seat were hit a lot harder. Also, there was no panic on board the plane and emergency services were very quick at the scene.

Out of the 4 hospitalised, 2 were released after a few hours.

The cause of the leak is still a mystery.


User currently offlineLH452 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6167 times:

Flew with the airline a couple of weeks ago and noticed fluid across the window at cruise altitude. During decent, flow increased and the leakage from the left wing was substantial on final. Talked to the F/O at the gate and he assured me that the hydraulic pressure was not "absolutely zero".

User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6034 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 4):
The Avro RJ is a high-wing aircraft, so hydraulic lines between engines and systems will pass through the ceiling.

That doesn't come to my mind any hot liquid high pressure leaks from the floor on any 777 or 737 or any other low wing aircraft type that could any way harm for passengers.

Quoting LH452 (Reply 6):
Flew with the airline a couple of weeks ago and noticed fluid across the window at cruise altitude. During decent, flow increased and the leakage from the left wing was substantial on final. Talked to the F/O at the gate and he assured me that the hydraulic pressure was not "absolutely zero".

Would be nice if you check your flight reg. and see it may be the same airplane, wouldn't it


User currently offlineWingnutmn From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

XJ had a similar incident maybe 6 years ago when we had the Avro RJ85. I believe it was in Kansas City.

Wingnut



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User currently offlineToltommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5429 times:

The Mesaba incident was in MSP. Might have been inbound from MCI. Don't remember, but I know it was a DTW based crew.

User currently offlineOtops From Canada, joined May 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5413 times:



Quoting Max777geek (Reply 7):
That doesn't come to my mind any hot liquid high pressure leaks from the floor on any 777 or 737 or any other low wing aircraft type that could any way harm for passengers.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean but I would think gravity would prevent this. Also the space between the floor of an A/C and the bottom of the fuselage is much bigger that the space from the ceiling of the cabin to the top of the fuselage, meaning the lower portion of the fuselage would literally have to fill up before you saw anything come through the floor. Even if the fluid was spraying at high pressure it would hit the floor boards and drip down.



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User currently offlineQ120 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

How the hydraulic fluid ever got into the cabin is something I would like to know.
I would bet that the passengers were also temperately blinded by the hydraulic fluid (Skydrol most likely) as it tends to blind you on contact aside from the burning and irritation you get on your skin, and not to mention it peels the skin right off the aircraft if left untreated.

From Wiki:

Skydrol fluids are irritating to human tissue. If the fluid gets on the skin it creates an itchy, red rash with a burning sensation which feels similar to a sunburn. The effects subside within a few hours, and studies indicate that Skydrol causes no permanent damage to human tissue. Castor oil can be applied to the effected area to neutralize the burning.



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User currently offlineT prop From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1023 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3452 times:



Quoting Q120 (Reply 11):
How the hydraulic fluid ever got into the cabin is something I would like to know.
I would bet that the passengers were also temperately blinded by the hydraulic fluid (Skydrol most likely) as it tends to blind you on contact aside from the burning and irritation you get on your skin, and not to mention it peels the skin right off the aircraft if left untreated.

How do you think the nose gear gets hydraulic pressure? Unless you're in a Saab the hydraulic plumbing is going to run inside the fuselage at some point, if any of that plumbing leaks....

BTW, who told you that Skydrol will "peel the skin right off the aircraft"? That's rubbish.


User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3240 times:



Quoting Otops (Reply 10):
Even if the fluid was spraying at high pressure it would hit the floor boards and drip down.

Ok, why it did hit passengers instead of the ceiling boards and drip aside, then ?

Quoting Q120 (Reply 11):
How the hydraulic fluid ever got into the cabin is something I would like to know.

my point too.

Quoting T prop (Reply 12):
the hydraulic plumbing is going to run inside the fuselage at some point, if any of that plumbing leaks....

Im sorry the question here is why that did arrived undisturbed to the passengers without robust protection beetween pipes and the passengers.


User currently offlineLH452 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3108 times:



Quoting Max777geek (Reply 7):
Would be nice if you check your flight reg. and see it may be the same airplane, wouldn't it

Any suggestion as to how I would do that....


User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3037 times:



Quoting LH452 (Reply 14):
Any suggestion as to how I would do that....

a brief search with exact date and time of your flight would be a good start


User currently offlineScarebus03 From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3009 times:



Quoting Q120 (Reply 11):
How the hydraulic fluid ever got into the cabin is something I would like to know.
I would bet that the passengers were also temperately blinded by the hydraulic fluid (Skydrol most likely) as it tends to blind you on contact aside from the burning and irritation you get on your skin, and not to mention it peels the skin right off the aircraft if left untreated.

I've been covered in the stuff many times and it has done me no harm although it isn't very pleasant and you can feel a burning sensation. Normally we used milk to neutralise the effects of getting Skydrol in your eyes it was surprisingly effective.
With regards to the aircraft it doesn't peel the skin off the aircraft but rather the paint. It is also highly corrosive to titanium when hot. Tyres can also suffer damage when exposed to large quantities. I imagine in this incident it didn't do the cabin trim any favours either.

Brgds
SB03



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