HummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 16001 times:
Thanks JM079 for the title of this thread..
Our focus will be on The Sir Donald Sangster International Airport..
Sir Donald Sangster International Airport (IATA: MBJ, ICAO: MKJS) is an international airport in Montego Bay, Jamaica, and is one of the largest and busiest airports in the Caribbean.It is one of the most ultra-modern airports in the Caribbean capable of handling 9 million passengers yearly; that is three times the size of the Jamaican population Sangster is often referred to as the gateway to the Caribbean. It serves as the most popular airport for tourists visiting the north coast of Jamaica. MBJ is currently the busier of Jamaica's two main airports, the other being Norman Manley International Airport located in the capital city of Kingston.
Over the years, the upgrading process was a continuous one, ultimately the facility had grown into the larger of the two international airports in Jamaica, handling approximately 3.7 million passengers per annum in 2007,and have seen and increase in passenger and aircraft movement since the start of 2008.They are currently seeking to increase the number of passengers from Asia, and are working with Brazil to receive non-stop service from there.
As of 2000, plans have been executed to expand the airport to the status of a world class airport. A new concourse was completed in December 2005 to allow large commercial aircraft such as the Airbus A340, Boeing 747-400 and possibly the Airbus A380. Also a planned expansion of the main runway is currently in the preparation phase, which will, when completed, afford the airport a fully functioning 10,000 ft. runway to accommodate large aircraft traffic. MBJ Airports Limited also commissioned a new customs hall, arrivals lobby and transportation center in March 2007. Since then further expansion and renovation projects such as the relocation of the immigrations hall and duty free mall has been launched and it is expected to be completed by October 2008. When complete the facility will be one of the Caribbean's most modern airports, and will have increased the handling capacity to 9 million passengers per annum
Current list of operators..
Airlines Destinations
Air Berlin Düsseldorf
Air Canada Calgary [seasonal], Halifax [seasonal], Montreal-Trudeau, Ottawa [seasonal], Toronto-Pearson, Vancouver [seasonal], Winnipeg [seasonal]
Air Europa Madrid [seasonal]
Air Jamaica Baltimore, Chicago-O'Hare, Curaçao, Fort Lauderdale, Havana, Kingston, Nassau, New York-JFK, Orlando, Philadelphia
Air Transat Calgary [seasonal], Montreal-Trudeau, Quebec City [seasonal; begins 7 November], Toronto-Pearson, Vancouver [seasonal]
AirTran Airways Atlanta, Baltimore, Orlando [all services begin 11 February][6]
American Airlines Dallas/Fort Worth, Miami, New York,JFK
Arkefly Amsterdam, Punta Cana
Blue Panorama Milan-Malpensa, Rome-Fiumicino [begins 21 December]
British Airways London-Gatwick [resumes 29 October]
CanJet Calgary, Montreal-Trudeau, Ottawa [begins 18 December], Quebec City, Toronto-Pearson, Victoria [begins 20 December]
Cayman Airways Grand Cayman
Condor Flugdienst Frankfurt
Continental Airlines Houston-Intercontinental, Newark
Cubana de Aviación operated by Aerogaviota Havana
Delta Air Lines Atlanta, New York-JFK
Iberworld Madrid
Jetairfly Brussels, Cancún [seasonal]
JetBlue Airways Boston [begins 9 January] [7], New York-JFK, Orlando [begins 10 February]
Livingston Energy Flight Milan-Malpensa
Northwest Airlines Detroit, Memphis, Minneapolis/St. Paul
Orbest Lisbon
Skylan Airways Kingston
Skyservice Calgary, Edmonton [begins 18 December], Montreal-Trudeau [begins 18 December], Ottawa, Saskatoon [begins 27 December], Toronto-Pearson, Vancouver [all seasonal]
Spirit Airlines Fort Lauderdale
Sun Country Airlines Minneapolis/St. Paul [seasonal]
Sunwing Airlines Montreal-Trudeau, Ottawa, Quebec City, Toronto-Pearson
TAME Quito, Guayaquil [seasonal]
Thomas Cook Airlines London-Gatwick, Manchester (UK)
Thomson Airways Birmingham (UK), London-Gatwick, Manchester (UK)
United Airlines Chicago-O'Hare, Washington-Dulles [both seasonal]
US Airways Boston [seasonal], Charlotte, Philadelphia, Phoenix [seasonal; begins 17 December]
USA3000 Airlines Chicago-O'Hare, St. Louis [seasonal]
Virgin Atlantic Airways London-Gatwick
WestJet Ottawa [seasonal; begins 6 November], Toronto-Pearson
The JTB/JamVac Vacations are currently looking at the following carriers for future services to MBJ:
LAN,TAM,Copa, Lufthansa and an unannounced Asian carrier..
In other Avaition News:
A new domestic carrier Jamaica Air Shuttle is launched..
According to Mr Lalor, The Divestment Commitee will submit the Indigo proposal Parliament..
This week, will see the resumption of BA's nonstop service from LGW-MBJ, service will operate twice weekly..B6 will also launch daily services to KIN from JFK..
Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter): A new concourse was completed in December 2005 to allow large commercial aircraft such as the Airbus A340, Boeing 747-400
Guess they really meant '' to accommodate more'' larger commercial aircraft simultaneously such as the A340 and B744 as both aircraft types have been operating into/out of MBJ prior to 2005.
Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter): Also a planned expansion of the main runway is currently in the preparation phase, which will, when completed, afford the airport a fully functioning 10,000 ft. runway to accommodate large aircraft traffic.
And the new control tower when constructed will compliment the entire airport complex nicely.
'' Air Jamaica was approved some US$6 million ($534 million) in contracts last month for insurance, radar and engine repairs, but the airline says that half of this cost will be reimbursed by GE Capital Aviation Services (GECAS), a leasor of air planes.
The national airline was approved by Government to overhaul two engines costing US$3.2 million. It will use US-based Pratt and Whitney Norway Engine Centre for the three-month repair. In the interim that plane is utilising leased engines. The contract details were published last week by the Contractor General's office. Air Jamaica currently has five engines in routine maintenance and plans to overhaul two more for the year. ''
'' I believe a large proportion of Jamaicans, both locally and in the wider diaspora, will want to buy shares in Air Jamaica. Even children at school would be proud to be part-owner of a real Jamaican business. ''
AirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15914 times:
Quoting LimaMike (Reply 2): On the matter of the proposed runway extension at MBJ, is the extension going to be landwards or seawards?
From what I had previously viewed on the plan of the pending extension, it is supposed to be landward. But there was some issues with it where proximity to the main road is concerned. I presume they would have to somehow re route a section of the main road to facilitate this.
..."The Opposition People's National Party (PNP) is calling for answers from the Bruce Golding administration in the wake of more confusion surrounding the sale of the cash strapped national airline Air Jamaica.
The PNP says it has been reliably informed that the Government has decided to postpone the divestment of the air carrier.
This is the latest in a series of conflicting reports regarding the proposed transfer of Air Jamaica from state control to private ownership.
Speaking in an interview with RJR News, Opposition Spokesman on Finance Dr. Omar Davies disclosed that information had come from a Government insider that Air Jamaica has been taken off the auction block.
Jamaica or MBJ for that fact can lay claim that to the fact that it is the only city in the English speaking Caribbean that has service from both west and east coast of North Ameerica ( USA and Canada).
Further more the city is about to get an expansion in service from American Airlines, Jetblue and AirTran and that fits greatly into the efforts of the JTB and JAMVAC to expand MBJ airlift capacity due to the growth in the tourism sector. By the end of March there will be over 30,000 rooms in Jamaica.
There is another side to this effort which am sure will be a win / win situation in that the Tourism Enhancement Fund will see some significant increase.
HummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 15846 times:
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 1): Suitable title to kick off our 20th lap.
I agree..
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 1): Guess they really meant '' to accommodate more'' larger commercial aircraft simultaneously such as the A340 and B744 as both aircraft types have been operating into/out of MBJ prior to 2005.
I heard, the airport was restricted with both aircraft as they could only park at the outer gates 12-14 at peak operating times..Prior to the opening of the new terminal, gates 8-10 could could operate B767s without restrictions, but the wingspan on the A330/A340 meant they were often given outer parking gates..
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 1): '' Air Jamaica was approved some US$6 million ($534 million) in contracts last month for insurance, radar and engine repairs, but the airline says that half of this cost will be reimbursed by GE Capital Aviation Services (GECAS), a leasor of air planes.
Hopefully when the MRO opens at Vernamenfiled, this will significantly reduce JM maintenance costs..
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 1): '' I believe a large proportion of Jamaicans, both locally and in the wider diaspora, will want to buy shares in Air Jamaica. Even children at school would be proud to be part-owner of a real Jamaican business. ''
If they see it as feasible and can generate enough cash to sustain the company, it will have my support...However, I am cautious as I believe we may end up with a company ruled by nepotism..
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 3): From what I had previously viewed on the plan of the pending extension, it is supposed to be landward. But there was some issues with it where proximity to the main road is concerned. I presume they would have to somehow re route a section of the main road to facilitate this.
There has been some issues that has been mentioned since the opening of the RIU resort..Any extension of the current runway will have an adverse effect on the transport network to and from their property..
Quoting JM079 (Reply 4): NOT ANYMORE IF YOU WERE TO FOLLOW THE MEDIA ( I dont)
Am speechless..
Quoting JM079 (Reply 4): Jamaica or MBJ for that fact can lay claim that to the fact that it is the only city in the English speaking Caribbean that has service from both west and east coast of North Ameerica ( USA and Canada).
I agree and the network will grow within the next two-three years..
Quoting JM079 (Reply 4): Further more the city is about to get an expansion in service from American Airlines, Jetblue and AirTran and that fits greatly into the efforts of the JTB and JAMVAC to expand MBJ airlift capacity due to the growth in the tourism sector. By the end of March there will be over 30,000 rooms in Jamaica.
There is another side to this effort which am sure will be a win / win situation in that the Tourism Enhancement Fund will see some significant increase.
Yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5171 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 15835 times:
I hear rumors on this side of the Caribbean that TA is being "wooed" by JTB for a service SAL-MBJ....
Now if JTB knew that there is eff nov 15th a TA E190 sitting on the tarmac for 9 hours (9am-5pm) in BZE doing nothing in between SAL-BZE-SAL flights....
Seems line a no brainer to me....but should be KIN not MBJ
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
AirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15819 times:
Quoting JM079 (Reply 4): An extensive list there man,
Quoting HummingBird (Reply 5): I agree and the network will grow within the next two-three years..
Definately. I am positive sooner or later MBJ will see operations out of Brazil and other markets in Europe, especially with the recent buzz created by Sir Bolt O.J.
Quoting JM079 (Reply 4): Jamaica or MBJ for that fact can lay claim that to the fact that it is the only city in the English speaking Caribbean that has service from both west and east coast of North Ameerica ( USA and Canada).
Quoting JM079 (Reply 4): Further more the city is about to get an expansion in service from American Airlines, Jetblue and AirTran and that fits greatly into the efforts of the JTB and JAMVAC to expand MBJ airlift capacity due to the growth in the tourism sector. By the end of March there will be over 30,000 rooms in Jamaica.
There is another side to this effort which am sure will be a win / win situation in that the Tourism Enhancement Fund will see some significant increase.
Quite noteworthy indeed. Not many people are fully aware of this. Often times the focus is on the entry of these carriers being soley to JM's detriment. JFK-MBJ is a prime example. With the presence of B6, DL & AA some had expected JM to bid that route good-bye a long time ago. And to divert a bit, the same could be said re FLL-KIN when NK & AA entered the market.
Quoting HummingBird (Reply 5): There has been some issues that has been mentioned since the opening of the RIU resort..Any extension of the current runway will have an adverse effect on the transport network to and from their property..
Will be quite interesting to see how they iron out this one as something will have to give if that runway is to be extended landwise. Otherwise the only other option will be seawise which would be quite costly.
Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 6): I hear rumors on this side of the Caribbean that TA is being "wooed" by JTB for a service SAL-MBJ....
Now if JTB knew that there is eff nov 15th a TA E190 sitting on the tarmac for 9 hours (9am-5pm) in BZE doing nothing in between SAL-BZE-SAL flights....
Seems line a no brainer to me....but should be KIN not MBJ
JM079 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 15776 times:
Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 6): I hear rumors on this side of the Caribbean that TA is being "wooed" by JTB for a service SAL-MBJ....
Now if JTB knew that there is eff nov 15th a TA E190 sitting on the tarmac for 9 hours (9am-5pm) in BZE doing nothing in between SAL-BZE-SAL flights....
Seems line a no brainer to me....but should be KIN not MBJ
In the scheme of things such a venture should become a major priority for the people at JTB for several reasons such as the fact that the GOJ wants to open gateways to Central and South America. It will also provide a different option for Jamaicans who want to travel to Central and South America and has to endure a connection at MIA or having to apply for a transit visa and is denied.
The issue of a transit visa and connecting at MIA are major sore points and have impacted on our musicians and athletes to travel oversees.
The general view at home is that the USA and UK are dictating to Jamaica as to who they can send to international events by refusing or granting visa. The Jamaican contingent that went to Italy this year to the junior games had to get there via HAV, MAD and then by bus.
So, if TA can make this happen then trust me they will be heavily supported.
BTW: I listen to the PM talked about the ICI today and he candidly said these vendors actually travelled as far as China to import things to sell. China?
LimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 224 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 15773 times:
Quoting JM079 (Reply 9): BTW: I listen to the PM talked about the ICI today and he candidly said these vendors actually travelled as far as China to import things to sell. China?
Now, I understand why JM love them.
Yes, China. I recently became aware of this because my landlord, who is an ICI, just returned from China! China provides several benefits in terms of quantity and price, but most importantly, ICIs can get their stock custom-made/made to order!
ICIs have been a staple on many JM routes over the years. Prior to their termination MIA, LAX and even GCM were popular ICI routes. JM forayed into PTY in the late 90s largely to tap into the ICI traffic.With the termination of MIA, FLL sees a greater proportion of ICIs, but CUR is currently JM 's flagship ICI destination and cargo revenue has helped to make this route lucrative for the carrier.
HummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 15761 times:
Quoting Yankeejuliet (Reply 7): Roadway is now ok, but gas station will have to be relocated.
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8): Will be quite interesting to see how they iron out this one as something will have to give if that runway is to be extended landwise. Otherwise the only other option will be seawise which would be quite costly.
It will a difficult project to accomplish...In addition to expanding the runway, they will have to construct a parallel taxiway, which would be in the path of the current highway..Also, the end of the runway must have at least 100m of soft area (accident prevention)..
Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8): Quite noteworthy indeed. Not many people are fully aware of this. Often times the focus is on the entry of these carriers being soley to JM's detriment. JFK-MBJ is a prime example. With the presence of B6, DL & AA some had expected JM to bid that route good-bye a long time ago. And to divert a bit, the same could be said re FLL-KIN when NK & AA entered the market.
Well said...People need to do proper analysis of markets before jumping to conclusions...FLL-KIN is a perfect example..JM has 3 daily from KIN and they have had success on this route..AA struggled to get past 60% in peak season...
Quoting LimaMike (Reply 10): ICIs have been a staple on many JM routes over the years. Prior to their termination MIA, LAX and even GCM were popular ICI routes. JM forayed into PTY in the late 90s largely to tap into the ICI traffic
Don't forget PAP..Prior to the coup it was a profitable ICI route..I also heard many ICIs venture to CCS for their bargains..There are some cheap fares from CUR-CCS..
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 15736 times:
Quoting HummingBird (Reply 11): It will a difficult project to accomplish...In addition to expanding the runway, they will have to construct a parallel taxiway, which would be in the path of the current highway..Also, the end of the runway must have at least 100m of soft area (accident prevention)..
What about dumping land at the other end of the runway, i.e extending it out into the sea a bit..
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 15733 times:
MBJ is getting a real nice boost with the arrival of B6 and FL. Though, I do have my doubts about the new US PHX-MBJ route. This seems strangely familiar to AA's ORD-MBJ service that didn't last too long...
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
Tiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 15728 times:
This question may have been asked already in one of the previous 19 threads, but, does Air Jamaica ground handle all operations at the two airports? It would seem obvious but I have never been there. I would love to go sometime, I love the Caribbean!
David
Flying is the second greatest thrill known to mankind, landing is the first!
A recent article in the Guardian of the UK in the travel section looked at a critical part of the rich heriatge of Jamaica which the JTB is actively developing - Heritage Tourism. In that same vein the guide in the video is a Maroon whose history falls within that area of heritage.
Quoting LimaMike (Reply 10):
Yes, China. I recently became aware of this because my landlord, who is an ICI, just returned from China! China provides several benefits in terms of quantity and price, but most importantly, ICIs can get their stock custom-made/made to order!
There is logic in that act of going directly to the source where they stand a good stance of getting a better deal. The cost of production is significantly cheap to produce in China. It would be interesting to see some stats as to what sort of volumne we are talking about here.
I was not familar with GCM as a gateway for the ICI as that destination was not into the sort of manufacturing as PAP, PTY or CUR. GCM historically has been a financial mega not manufacuring.
[quote=HummingBird,reply=11]
Well said...People need to do proper analysis of markets before jumping to conclusions...FLL-KIN is a perfect example..JM has 3 daily from KIN and they have had success on this route..AA struggled to get past 60% in peak season...
The logic was flawed as evidently the major restructuring that JM decided to pursue last year was lost on a lot of people as the carrier decided to focus on the VFR market.
It is worth repeating that what you saw was a strong focus on NYC, FLL, YYZ , GND. MCO.
PHL,BWI and ORD . The recent statement from the CEO about that move vindicated his actions. Further more recents stats from Ed Barlette has laid rest to that perception that the addition of these carriers is to fight for market share. While in fact fact they are needed to meet the expanding tourism industry - we saw a 8.1% increase from the USA for the period ending July 31.
It will a difficult project to accomplish...In addition to expanding the runway, they will have to construct a parallel taxiway, which would be in the path of the current highway..Also, the end of the runway must have at least 100m of soft area (accident prevention)..
The release from SIA indicated that they have purchase all that land north of the airport. I assuming that they will sink the road way to facilitates this expansion so what you might see is a bridge there.
Beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 15742 times:
JM079 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 15737 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 13): MBJ is getting a real nice boost with the arrival of B6 and FL. Though, I do have my doubts about the new US PHX-MBJ route. This seems strangely familiar to AA's ORD-MBJ service that didn't last too long...
The US Airways PHX-MBJ will be seasonal and will end in April of 2010. It is expected that if the route perform well then am sure the JTB will work with US Airways to ensure it bcomes year round.
[quote=Tiger119,reply=14]This question may have been asked already in one of the previous 19 threads, but, does Air Jamaica ground handle all operations at the two airports? It would seem obvious but I have never been there. I would love to go sometime, I love the Caribbean!
JM only handles there operations and Virgin.
There are other general service agents such as AJAS and Jamaica Despatch that service other carriers.
AirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15710 times:
Quoting Yankeejuliet (Reply 7): Roadway is now ok, but gas station will have to be relocated.
Thanks for info.
Quoting JM079 (Reply 9): The issue of a transit visa and connecting at MIA are major sore points and have impacted on our musicians and athletes to travel oversees.
The general view at home is that the USA and UK are dictating to Jamaica as to who they can send to international events by refusing or granting visa. The Jamaican contingent that went to Italy this year to the junior games had to get there via HAV, MAD and then by bus.
Always a sore point indeed. Often times there is the situation where a team will be required to travel to a destination via the U.S.A and they will deny a few of the key players of that team. As such alternate routings is explored. My co-worker play table tennis for Jamaica and the last time they went to Colombia they used CM via PTY to avoid the inconvenience of transiting through MIA with the visa requitements etc.
Quoting JM079 (Reply 9): Now, I understand why JM love them.
Quoting LimaMike (Reply 10): ICIs have been a staple on many JM routes over the years. Prior to their termination MIA, LAX and even GCM were popular ICI routes. JM forayed into PTY in the late 90s largely to tap into the ICI traffic.With the termination of MIA, FLL sees a greater proportion of ICIs, but CUR is currently JM 's flagship ICI destination and cargo revenue has helped to make this route lucrative for the carrier.
Quoting HummingBird (Reply 11): Don't forget PAP..Prior to the coup it was a profitable ICI route..I also heard many ICIs venture to CCS for their bargains..There are some cheap fares from CUR-CCS..
JM is very much aware of the importance of the ICI's to their operations. That bond has indeed existed for many years and will continue to be like that as long as they are flying and there is no major change in their services.
Quoting HummingBird (Reply 11): Also, the end of the runway must have at least 100m of soft area (accident prevention)..
Think the official name for this is an '' arrester bed '' if I am not mistaken.
Quoting HummingBird (Reply 11): FLL-KIN is a perfect example..JM has 3 daily from KIN and they have had success on this route..AA struggled to get past 60% in peak season...
Quoting JM079 (Reply 15): The logic was flawed as evidently the major restructuring that JM decided to pursue last year was lost on a lot of people as the carrier decided to focus on the VFR market.
It is worth repeating that what you saw was a strong focus on NYC, FLL, YYZ , GND. MCO.
PHL,BWI and ORD . The recent statement from the CEO about that move vindicated his actions. Further more recents stats from Ed Barlette has laid rest to that perception that the addition of these carriers is to fight for market share. While in fact fact they are needed to meet the expanding tourism industry - we saw a 8.1% increase from the USA for the period ending July 31.
Very flawed indeed. And the aforementioned adjustments have reaped success for JM so far. I think they are doing an excellent job with the current aircraft utilization especially as it pertains to how they operate between GND-JFK-MBJ. JM is not competing for the tourist traffic that want to get into MBJ by 10:00am. They are targeting the VFR traffic. If anything the entry of FL, B6 etc will have a win win situation for the island....more tourist traffic, greater TEF earnings and competitive fares for travelers.
If what you meant was does JM still remain a viable entity with the amount of service being offered by other carriers then the answer is still definitely yes. What many people fail to realize is that since implementing it's new business strategy JM is primarily focused on the VFR markets into Jamaica, as opposed to being predominantly tourist-oriented as it was in the previous 10 years. Hence, routes such as PHX, BOS, IAH etc are no longer part of the JM network.
Much has been made about new/proposed service by carriers such as B6, DL and FL and their perceived impact on JM 's operations. Instead of viewing these additional service as growth in the market, most people have interpreted this as evidence of JM 's "crumbling". The JFK-MBJ route is prime example, where there is service by JM, B6, AA and DL. The last published stats presented however showed JM still outperforming its rivals.
Additionally, it must be noted that the list of carriers into MBJ includes many charter companies, with most offering service from destinations which they do not compete with JM. In fact, of all the listed carriers/services into MBJ currently the only DIRECT competition with JM are:
AA, B6, DL - JFK
US - PHL
NK - FLL
JM079 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 15668 times:
British Airways has restart its LGW-MBJ service using the 777-200 series. It is expected to operate twice weekly with all year round service. Expected arrival time at MBJ is 4:05pm local. BA2285 is now crusing off the coast of Newfoundland at 36,000 ft.
You have re-enforce what I and others have been saying all along.
What alot of people fail to see is that tourism is not just about Air Jamaica. We have a growing industry that has seen massive investment and we need access from all gateways.
Your point of who currently competes again Air Jamaica is well taken and puts into focus that these other carriers are supporters of the industry not competitors.
Also noted is the fact that JM continues to enjoy excellent loads into MBJ from ORD, NYC, FLL, MCO, PHL and BWI.
HummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 15660 times:
Quoting Captaink (Reply 12): What about dumping land at the other end of the runway, i.e extending it out into the sea a bit..
It is a possibility...The advantage being, the waters surrounding the airport is very shallow
Quoting JM079 (Reply 15): The release from SIA indicated that they have purchase all that land north of the airport. I assuming that they will sink the road way to facilitates this expansion so what you might see is a bridge there.
That is also another option...All this could have been avoided, if they had gone ahead with the original plan of re-routing the highway, through the neighboring Flankers Community..
The area that is place marked should have been the cut off point..
This pic illustrates how major housing and commercial infrastructures are located close to the runway...
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 13): Though, I do have my doubts about the new US PHX-MBJ route. This seems strangely familiar to AA's ORD-MBJ service that didn't last too long...
Per the contract with JTB/JAMVAC, it is the responsibility of US to fill those seats..However, it will be a challenge in Feb when the PHX hub is downsized...
In order to maintain marketing momentum, the JTB is continuously participating in the joint marketing with US Vacations..
AA's ORD-MBJ service returns next year...Initially operating as a Sat/Sun service...
Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 14): This question may have been asked already in one of the previous 19 threads, but, does Air Jamaica ground handle all operations at the two airports? It would seem obvious but I have never been there. I would love to go sometime, I love the Caribbean
The Caribbean would be worth your visit.....
As JM079 pointed out, we have AJAS and Jamaica Dispatch who are the major handlers at both international airports..They handle the majority of charter flights to MBJ...
HummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15672 times:
Quoting JM079 (Reply 21): British Airways has restart its LGW-MBJ service using the 777-200 series. It is expected to operate twice weekly with all year round service. Expected arrival time at MBJ is 4:05pm local. BA2285 is now crusing off the coast of Newfoundland at 36,000 ft.
Looking forwarding to its arrival at MBJ .
I was informed, the flight will arrive at gate 18..They will receive a water salute...
JM will be their ground handlers..On their operations sheet, it shows a B777/B767 mix...
JM079 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15667 times:
The Gleaner has featured the Airport Authority of Jamaica AAJ that has responsibility for the airports across Jamaica. In this feature the CEO has advised that both international airport performance has exceeded expectation.
....."NMIA Airports Limited is not on the Government's budget and Richards said that while Norman Manley International has not had the economic success of Sangster International, the NMIA has been working to improve its solvency. Growth in passenger arrivals has fluctuated with the best year being a jump of 8.7 per cent in 2005.
One growth strategy has been to facilitate and support increased tourists flow through the second international airport. NMIA currently receives 50 per cent of the traffic of Sangster International with 1.7 million travellers in 2008 compared with 3.4 million passing through Montego Bay in the same year.
BTW: There is a news item now that the NMIA has experienced an emergency in which smoke was detected in the main hall and is now on shut down mode.
25 LimaMike: However, with the areas surrounding the airport being a protected area (Montego Bay Marine Park) and Doctor's Cave Beach just a bit to the south, I'm
26 A340Jamaica: I am pretty sure sinking the road would be an issue with the area being so close to sea level. A high water table will inevitably cause difficulties.
27 HummingBird: Agree..Reminds me of the Sandals Whitehouse debacle.. I was able to generate these images based on the proposed extension length of 400m that was ann
28 JM079: That is a viable option which I had not considered but if my memory is still sharpe there was idea to re-route that road through the flanners communi
29 AirJamaica: Here is some more information on the incident.................. Airport scare '' PASSENGERS and staff at the Norman Manley International Airport (NMI
30 JM079: [quote=AirJamaica,reply=29] Here is some more information on the incident.................. Airport scare '' PASSENGERS and staff at the Norman Manley
31 SCL767: LAN Airlines to MBJ? Can you provide a source as I haven't heard of this "development"? Also, why would LH serve MBJ when its subsidiary DE already d
32 HummingBird: My friend tried to get some photos, but it was too dark..Hopefully I will be able to get some pics on Saturday... Another great addition to the KIN t
33 SCL767: Also, the tread starter claims that TAME operates seasonally into MBJ? Any sources that you can provide would be much appreciated.
34 HummingBird: An article on B6's service to KIN.. The carrier will operate daily non-stop flights between Kingston's Norman Manley International Airport and New Yor
35 SCL767: Wow, Chilean arrivals into Jamaica dropped -46.2% according to the JTB. I guess this rules out nonstop flights operated by LAN.
36 HummingBird: The Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) will on Friday issue its ruling on the controversial divestment of Air Jamaica's slots at Lond
37 JM079: Lets see if the ruling by the DPP will result in criminal charges against those people who tried to interfere in what should have been an administrat
38 AirJamaica: By comparison JM's winter special is approximately US$324 inclusive of taxes. Great news. I am certain Ed will capitalize as much as possible to main
39 SCL767: This is a link in reference to the Minister's negotiations earlier this year: http://www.visaviajes.com/index.php?..._content&task=view&id=248&Itemid
40 HummingBird: Sticky situation.....Evidently, some will have to suffer the consequences.. I agree...A strong team for a strong brand... I agree... On another note,
41 A340Jamaica: As I have consistently mentioned, as long as JM exists in some form similar to its current state, New York is secure. The problems arise if they chan
42 HummingBird: A JM FA who frequents the route, mentioned most "hardcore pax" will stay with JM... A JM aircraft cabin being prepared for it's nortbound flight...
43 AirJamaica: " target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydors...Nokg# Just got a chance to view this clip. MBJ is looking spectacular. Just imagine what the fu
44 JM079: I think that we are not focusing on the overall strategy and the intentions of the various policy measures as announced from KIN. Jetblue and other c
45 SCL767: TAME operates 3x weekly between Tulcan, Ecuador and CLO. That's the only Scheduled international flight! They are operating "charters" with incentive
46 JM079: ....'he Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) has ruled that no one should be charged in connection with the sale of Air Jamaica's Heathrow slots to
47 SCL767: Effective 12/16/09, Caribbean Airlines' the largest Caribbean-based airline, will increase frequency into the Kingston Norman Manely International Air
48 HummingBird: White Airways of Portugal will be offering a weekly Lisbon-Samana-MBJ route eff Nov 09-May 2010..Route will be operated with an A310.. Correct..The m
49 JM079: It is quite an impressive list. I will say that MBJ is really growing. Just additional info . Air Transat will offer for the first time charters from
50 AirJamaica: The list of services into MBJ keep growing and growing. Really impressive. Does JM have their own check-in staff at JFK ? I remember when I was flyin
51 HummingBird: Nice addition to MBj..I expect another record breaking year in arrivals.. I checked DL's website and it is not yet loaded..Perhaps, they will start s
52 JM079: I think they have delayed in launching the service due to the reasons I have listed above Wow. Interesting choice of KQ as the carrier of choice to t
53 HummingBird: Pretty similar to what happened to AA when they relaunched the route.. Nice to see Bolt connecting with the land of our ancestors...Looking at their
54 JM079: I have always thought that he was a Maroon - look at his dad plus the Maroons have historically lived in Trelawyn. They are known for there strong, s
55 AirJamaica: Just a matter of time before this air link materialize in some form or another. Interesting days are ahead for MBJ. It is good to see the impact Bolt
56 JM079: The line today is quite interesting. I also see that TAME 01 from Guayaquil, Ecuador is quite late - arrival at MBJ is 10:30pm instead of the 2:30pm.
57 SCL767: I think EQ01 from Aeropuerto Internacional José Joaquín de Olmedo is delayed indefinitely[Edited 2009-10-31 15:54:22]
58 LimaMike: Was just checking flightstats.com and interestingly for tommorrow Nov 1 one of US CLT-MBJ-CLT flights is listed as B767 and also PHL-MBJ-PHL (which wa
59 AirJamaica: Not certain re the PHL-MBJ-PHL B752 but the CLT-MBJ-CLT B767 was planned a far as I know. I noticed as well. Busy day at MBJ. Great spot for a vac. I
60 JM079: A check with www.usairways.com will reveal that the 767 will be on the route for the months of Nov- Dec for the CLT route and a 757 on the PHL MBJ. T
61 HummingBird: Lol..That explains the speed genes.... Perhaps they can be enticed into providing seameless Central American connections.. I heard both carriers were
62 Tiger119: - Are these check in services or ground handling (ie:baggage and aircraft movement) or both? David
63 JM079: The GOJ has confirmed that it is in talks to open up a number of new destination to the island. The minister of transport has advised that...." In we
64 HummingBird: In most instances, they offer both..What makes it more flexible is the existence of a Common Use Passenger Processing System (CUPPS) which permits in
65 HummingBird: B762 and A321 from CLT.. B752 from PHL A319 from BOS JM010 from JFK full for today.. Another Jamaican headed for the sandpit.. WESTERN BUREAU:After 1
66 JM079: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8333973.stm Royal Caribbean has launched its galaxy line - Oasis of the Seas. This ship will be based at Falmouth, T
67 HummingBird: I was reliably informed that B6 has exceeded expectations, due to the following of it's loyal crowd...The locals make up 10-15% of their flight...Thi
68 AirJamaica: Speaks volume for itself. Guess we may see NA doing a few rotations for the winter season especially if an aircraft ( s ) go tech. Over 40 of them ha
69 JM079: There is more news today out of Kingston that Jamaica is moving ahead with plans to gain access to the Chinese market. The Jamaica Tourist Board has l
70 HummingBird: This delayed divestment has put a dent in the companys plan for the winter..The company is operating with a slight increase in schedule..NA will only
71 HummingBird: For those FS Freaks, a nice video at MBJ.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i8Qud7MLNw ----------------------------------------------------------------
72 JM079: I was quite surprised by the ruling but she is only asking for the former finance minister to be investigated for lying. http://www.youtube.com/watch
73 AirJamaica: Interesting. Very informative web site and it is a great idea by the JTB IMO. This was the '' bird '' that I flew from MBJ to MCO last November. This
74 HummingBird: There was a report on tonight's news that the sale to VS is illegal and further actions will be taken for those who were involved in the process.. I
75 Yellowtail: Let me know when you want to go to Kenya...I know lots of people there and get there every couple of years. The 9hour sitting starts Nov 15. The SAL-
76 JM079: http://www.skywritingsmagazine.com/i..._flippingbook&book_id=19&Itemid=30 JM Skywritting magazine covering the months of Nov-Dec is out and again I mu
77 AirJamaica: A bit more info on this topical subject.................. Christie stands by Air J probe findings '' CONTRACTOR General Greg Christie yesterday said
78 HummingBird: I am particularly interested in the Masai Reserve and to experience the inflight service of KQ and ET..I believe these carriers are examples of stron
79 AirJamaica: Will they be operating JFK-BGI for the winter ? I noticed that on their route map in the online SkyWritings magazine they did not include that sector
80 HummingBird: Job well done... I was reliably informed that of the flights that are guaranteed, the statement is accurate as these are seats already filled.... Int
81 Yellowtail: If it is the Masai mara you speak of ...best time of the year is July....great Migration....but do not miss Amboseli, Samburu and Lake Nakuru Nationa
82 AirJamaica: You mean 320/310 in the '' Butch'' era. 310 was over kill for the BZE route. I knew it wouldn't last long. And they could possibly operate a tri-angu
83 Yellowtail: Sorry...typo....started at 321 then went to 320...never saw 310.....320 was over kill....but the E-190 would be perfect!
84 AirJamaica: Very true. 321 to 320 from what I recall. On a few RARE occasions they used the 310's as well but more than likely it was last minute subs. E-190 wou
85 HummingBird: I don't think we will ever see JM returning to BGI..AFAIK, that market is well served by AA and B6... My friends went there and had a great time.. Re
86 AirJamaica: No fallout from CanJet incident, says JTB '' MONTEGO BAY, St James - Almost seven months after 159 passengers and crew members of a CanJet airline des
87 Yellowtail: Let me know and I can give you a great Safari Company to use. And horrible onward connections, horrible airfares, bad marketing etc etc... It would,
88 HummingBird: No need for them to attempt competing with AA and B6...Not much of a big market exists for 3, much less 2 based on AA's frequencies.. It would have t
89 Yellowtail: But SAL is a long way from PTY....both services could exist without really cannibalizing each other not to mention the Salvadorans love to vacation a
90 HummingBird: Thats where the JTB will have to colloborate on the marketing.. Hey AirJamaica.. I was looking at Flightaware, at the transatlantic flights from MBJ.
91 AirJamaica: When I was in ATC BA's flights from KIN to LGW often used Easterly routes into PAP airspace then head north through MIA's airspace. Likewise the char
92 JM079: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99QihxjfV3k&NR=1&feature=fvwp The reggae sound track to this youtube video of Virgin landing at NMIA is really beautifu
93 JM079: OCHO RIOS, St Ann - Tourism director John Lynch wants air carriers operating out of Europe to consider offering frequent, non-stop flights to Jamaica
94 JM079: Pilots should be given a chance to outline Air J bid - BITU And with increasing signs that the Government is struggling to find a buyer for Air Jamaic
95 HummingBird: Thanks.... I agree...I am yet to hear any developments of VS plans for their Jamaica services..I can assure you with the addition of their A330s, MBJ
96 AirJamaica: No problem. What is interesting as well is the ' scenic ' routes they take into/out MBJ/KIN when the weather is unco-operative. Cool video clip indee
97 HummingBird: Per this thread,http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4600876/ DL will extend the JFK-MBJ service to 2 per week in May..
98 JM079: It is a rarely played but the lyrics is quite poetic. I did see the BW 737 which I thought was unusual as BW departure time from KIN is just after 2p
99 HummingBird: Where does this leave the "silver eagle"? Interesting times ahead... I was looking at MBJ arrivals for today..The line up is impressive.. US has 3 fl
100 AirJamaica: As previously observed, DL keep adjusting their ( planned ) schedules. I also noticed that they have switched one their ATL-KIN CRJ services to Thurs
101 HummingBird: I have to give DL some credit for their KIN services..At first, I was jeering their service due to their low LFs..But to now see them upgrading the e
102 JM079: I find that to be quite interesting as RadioJamaica is reporting that the PM has said it this process of diversificing is going to be quicken - he ha
103 JM079: Jamaica's performance in the Berlin Games is paying off big time as the publicity it generated about the country will manifest it self in one of the b
104 HummingBird: How far is Boscobel from the Drax Hall Development? That is a very high retention rate and must commend The GOJ in taking steps to increase this rate
105 JM079: CONGRATULATIONS: Air Jamaica again is awarded the trophy for being the leading carrier to the Caribbean for the year 2009. The news was made yesterday
106 HummingBird: Wow...Another near sweep as Berlin... I guess there is no need to dispute why MBJ is "The Gateway to Paradise"... Another award year for JM,Leading C
107 AirJamaica: Typical DL approach where launching new routes are concerned. They are playing it cautiously. Test the waters a bit, then dive in if necessary. Think
108 JM079: HB, these attractions are just a mere fraction of what the country has to offer as there are tours and excursions that are not so formal in nature. B
109 Caribbean484: This is the first time in a long time since I have posted on a.net and on this forum. I really thought that we got past the usual name calling and pe
110 HummingBird: This type of competition is needed for destinations as MBJ that has a dependence on volume travel..DL's schedule from ATL is inconsistent, but they h
111 JM079: I am profoundly astounded that such a statement could be made when viewed against the issue that I had raised earlier in this thread and the one you
112 LimaMike: To all concerned, I make an impassioned plea to not have the thread descend once again into a pipe-side quarrel. I understand that each of us are equa
113 JM079: Absolutely agreeing. http://www.sunheraldja.com/2009/11/m...n-breaches-airport-security-rules/ What is wrong with politicians? Why do they think they
114 Caribbean484: After the battles on the forums, when I have a problem with someone I use the instant message icon and wright them of my displeasure in their post. I
115 AirJamaica: Agree. The traveling public will benefit immensely from competitive airfares and the airlines will all endeavour to provide good customer service in
116 HummingBird: I believe these officilas should be held accountable for these actions..Have we yet to learn anything from the Canjet incident.. To be honest, we can
117 JM079: The recent statements from the airport authority to the effect that they want to diversify the sort of traffic that passes thru KIN was something tha
118 HummingBird: I know BA and VS transport a significant amount of premium traffic to these places alongside other boutique properties in Jamaica..It is also interst
119 JM079: The northeast region which is where Port Antonio is - has positioned it self as the high end market with villas and palaces such as: http://www.tride
120 HummingBird: I will hint to say, probably AA would enter JFK-KIN route....It would be nice to see all three carriers battling for the market share.. NAS could be
121 JM079: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport...0-0500_163415_OBS_HASSLE_FREE_.asp The report talks about the effort being made to facilitate the efficient mov
122 AirJamaica: I hope they will keep up this momentum in promoting resort areas in the Northeastern region of Jamaica and channel those visitors via KIN. I fully en
123 JM079: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pggfLOuRZAw&feature=related The Jamaica Tourist Board is again running this promo video that looks at Jamaica and the f
124 JM079: Jamaica's tourism has recieved another major award from Travel Agents across the USA. ......"Jamaica has been a favorite of travel agents and the clie
125 JM079: Jamaica is about to reactivate its national rail system which was suspended nearly fifteen years (the passenger section was suspended but it continued
126 Yellowtail: Lots of chatter in the Caribbean section of the WTM about the "spare TA aircraft and what could be done with it"......I suspect now that JTB might be
127 HummingBird: That is dependent on the Divestment Committee and The GOJ.. For KIN...I doubt it..Not when you have B6 and DL lurking around for a larger market shar
128 AirJamaica: If B6 and DL wasn't in the picture and AA requested a gurantee to operate JFK-KIN, in a situation where JM was no longer operational then I would exp
129 JM079: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emsMk0Q8Fkk&feature=related A video showing a stunning vista of the landscape Jamaica. Well, if we were to go by the st
130 JM079: The tour of the estate is still in effect and tourist continues to patronise it by using buses. But the train was a whole party of the charm which I
131 HummingBird: Today: DE has two flights arriving into MBJ from FRA..One of the flight stops in Holguin... I believe,The GOJ has learned from their mistake..If they
132 JM079: Jamaica's tourist minister is in attendance at the forum: ...."Declaring that tourism offers the most lucrative value chain for potential investors,
133 JM079: NEWS UPDATE ON JM: 1/ Carrier has completed its laying off staff at all levels - management is affected as well. 2/ Union has reported that they were
134 HummingBird: This will be one interesting approach.... I had no idea, most of the land surrounding the airport is unused.. A pic of BA Boeing 777-200 recieving wa
135 AirJamaica: Great that both KIN & MBJ's control tower will be replaced by modern structures soon. Looking forward to see the finished project. Have my doubts re
136 HummingBird: These are the links.......I don't want to have to deal with Operation Kingfish, lol.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jetblue...58991834/in/set-72157622
137 LimaMike: Even so, I think there are some environmental issues, as any planned runway extension might require some infringement on the protected area Negril Mo
138 JM079: Thanks for showing those pics. JetBlue to KIN is definitely a positive development and like I always say it has surely enhance the capital city as a
139 HummingBird: If I were to refer to history, I don't think we will see this extension anytime soon.. These are the links from the MBJ flight..Jamaicans sure know h
140 Caymanair: That car belongs to the High Commission in London, and would normally be used by the Commissioner. Diplomatic fleets in London usually carry these de
141 JM079: Yea, you are correct as that great expanse of land is quite sensitive so it will present a great challenge as to how any expansion of the aerodrome w
142 JM079: Ok, that makes practical sense. Awesome. Thanks " target=_blank>http://www.flickr.com/photos/jetblue...7951/ Does the Jetblue crew overnite in KIN?
143 HummingBird: I doubt it..But, I must give B6 some credit for using a Jamaican crew member on the inaugural flight.. The only crew members that overnight in KIN ar
144 HummingBird: Jamaica was the toast of the 30th World Travel Market (WTM), which ended Thursday (November 12) at the Excel Exhibition Centre in East London, England
145 Yellowtail: SPIN!.....yes they were busy...but from someone who was there..the busiest booths seemed to be Trinidad, Maldives, Vegas, Kenya, and Brazil..the latt
146 AirJamaica: " target=_blank>http://www.flickr.com/photos/jetblue...7951/ Operation Kingfish.....lol. Better safe than sorry. Cool photos there of B6's KIN inaugu
147 JM079: The reason why I asked is because in some of those pics the captions has the crew overniting at the Spanish Court Hotel in New Kingston. Is this a on
148 HummingBird: I can tell B6 has culturally invested in this market... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF7YHmPkOtA Am going to ask my source, as in the photos, the c
149 JM079: The Montego Bay Convention Centre which is now going up is now on target for completion. Once competed next year it will boost the conference and conv
150 HummingBird: Nice clip of a CO B752 landing in MBJ..This location is on the infamous Dead End Beach.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELbCcohHgMg I think this cente
151 AirJamaica: Unions make 'little headway' in airport strike talks '' MONTEGO BAY, St James - Up to press time last night the management of MBJ Airports Ltd and the
152 JM079: Sunwing Airlines will commence once weekly charter flights from YYZ to KIN with effect Nov 19 2009 and will go to twice weekly as of Dece 15, 2009. Th
153 HummingBird: Agree.. Before 9/11, you were able to stand behind the aircrafts during the take off..The area is now partitioned with barbed wires.. Also, Sunwing w
154 JM079: Perhaps some celebrity http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...63845_OBS_IT_S_AN_OPEN_SECRET_.asp The Secret Resorts is set to open next March which w
155 JM079: Kingston: Trading Beach Chairs for Bar Stools Baz Dreisinger of the New York Times, in yesterday edition - Nov 15 - has happen to come across our capi
156 HummingBird: Now I understand why they previously mentioned a US$1 billion earning from tourism this winter season.. Another accolade, well done..Credit must be g
157 JM079: I think in the region of over 2 billion that they are expecting for this season. BTW: I must mention that Caribbean Airlines additional seat capacity
159 HummingBird: I beleive this is a one stop flight via BGI.. Am quite pleased with his penmanship and the way in which he brings out the diversity of our tourism pr
160 AirJamaica: There is so much that Kingston has to offer to the traveler who want to experience more than the traditional sun, sand and sea. Good to see that the
162 JM079: " target=_blank>http://www.bahighlife.com/Destinatio....html A interesting promo video from the tourist board supporting BA re-entry into MBJ. John L
163 HummingBird: Honestly, this is one of the most captivating videos to date..I applaud Ed and John for maintaining their marketing momentum in promoting the country
164 AirJamaica: IIRC the one stop via BGI is only in one direction ( West-bound leg ) Again very excellent stats for JM for that period especially when you factor th
165 A388: Hello everyone, It's been a while but here I am again with a question: Does any of you know about any airport in the Caribbean or Latin America being
166 JM079: The GoJ has indicated that Kingston Airport (NMIA) will be up for divestment either by lease or direct sale. Such a process could begin as soon as po
167 A388: Thanks JM079. Do you have an official press release or source on this? I just checked the NMIA website but couldn't find anything about them being on
168 JM079: The company that runs KIN -NMIA Airport Ltd., was created specifically to get the airport ready for divestment so I would suggest that you can contac
169 A340Jamaica: Remember that less than two years ago, JM operated a 300 seat aircraft to JFK. It is my opinion that had they not removed that aircraft, the competit
170 AirJamaica: As we can see, BA's is anticipating a bumper winter travel season to the Caribbean........... BA upbeat on the Caribbean '' Airline's corporate sales
171 HummingBird: Ok thanks.. These are the figures for JM's MBJ-JFK leg 5752-5478 95% Am never worried about JM's position on the JFK route.. I agree..That is the low
172 AirJamaica: Yes I remember JM's A343's operated JM 015 from KIN-JFK some mornings. Can't remember if they operated JM 017 on some evenings. And of course at time
173 Yellowtail: I am sure if you got the cash....you could buy the airport in BZE from Belize Airport Concession Company.....it is already private. You want me to ne
174 A340Jamaica: Yep. Two A330-300s . I know they may have been somewhat limited westbound from the UK but they are ideal otherwise. Could do JFK, the occasional YYZ
175 JM079: The next logical step is to negotiate a commerical agreement which could be in the making. But the prediction that GOL could be the carrier of choice
176 HummingBird: The A343 initially operated 17/16..In the latter days it operated 15/14 and on some days YYZ..It was used in Christmas to MIA and CUR to collect extr
177 AirJamaica: Seems as if the BGI stop will be in both directions this time around unlike how it was previously operated. The recent JM stats speak volume for them
178 HummingBird: Plans by the Government to have a number of aerodromes in sections of the island up and running are progressing satisfactorily, according to Transport
179 JM079: We now have official work that Air Jamaica is not in discussion with the sole bidder that has been reported in the past to be Indigo Partners as the M
180 JM079: Air Jamaica continues to see significant improvement in its operation since the business plan was implemented over six months ago. John Lynch, the JTB
181 Yellowtail: What the hell? It is like saying..."we want to sell, but don't want to".....good luck finding partners on this.....
182 HummingBird: What a surprise..This is what we waited two years to hear???
183 Yellowtail: But are any of us at all surprised?
184 HummingBird: Well, speaking for myself, am disappointed with the delays and the selection process.. But who knows, maybe The GOJ will finally find a suitor for JM
185 JM079: Personally, I am elated that the discussion with Indigo did not materlise as what they were proposing to the GoJ was nothing but sheer canibalism. Th
186 A340Jamaica: I second that comment. Spirit would have been a disaster especially with that proposed name change to "Spirit of Jamaica". Absolute nonsense!!! Let's
187 AirJamaica: I figure DL is charging a small premium on KIN-ATL and MBJ-ATL as currently they are the sole carrier that offer a non-stop ( which most travelers wo
188 HummingBird: I second this concept..I have a strong feeling they will find a partner who will capitalise on the hub potentials of MBJ and KIN.. Mr Henry is in ove
189 JM079: I have read the document that the GoJ issued relating to this divestment so many times and I am astouding that the divestment committee could have en
190 JM079: Kingston Properties Limited (KPREIT) has announced that it has sold its interest in the Trinidad based Carlton Savannah. The Jamaica company had devel
191 HummingBird: I can imagine Kingston doing well with a lot of regional conferences and seminar...This will lead to an increase in business traffic to the city..
192 AirJamaica: Funny enough one of NK's aircraft ( an A321 I think ) is also named " Spirit Of Jamaica ''. More of a title/slogan IMO than an airline name. Sell Air
193 LimaMike: According to Flightstats.com B6 operates 2x JFK-MBJ-JFK on Friday 20th. B6 had indicated their intentions to up MBJ service to 11x weekly. What are th
195 JM079: The hospitality industry in KIN has been given another major boost today with the news that the capital city will be getting another hotel. One of Kin
196 AirJamaica: From my earlier observations the additional frequencies by B6 on the JFK-MBJ route was scheduled to operate on weekends. Not certain if changes were
197 HummingBird: Wow, am shocked at this early increase in flights..Previously it was mentioned, the flights would start in December.. Starting tommorrow, B6 will add
198 JM079: There is an official position on the JM divestment saga in which the Ministry of Information has confirmed that the sale of the carrier is being affec
199 JM079: ACTIVIST GROUP FIGHTS TO KEEP AIR JAMAICA FROM FOREIGN OWNERSHIP Mayday Air Jamaica takes stand against Spirit Airlines' bid to purchase Air J http://
200 AirJamaica: December dates for the additional flights by B6 on JFK-MBJ was what I was aware of as well. Demand for their seats is obviously very strong. I see. W
201 Speedbird2263: I really wonder what will come of it all Even more so I wonder what all the Pilots at JALPA have to say about this. Rather interesting times ahead...
202 HummingBird: I have exhausted myself on this topic....Lets see what is the next big surprise I was shocked at the sudden increase in flights..Last I checked, they
203 HummingBird: Look at these pics from B6 inaugural flights to BGI and UVF.... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jetblue...622668178900/show/with/4047421336/ http://www.f
205 JM079: If anything this reveals the historical political interferance in the operations of the carrier all these many years and it confirms what we already
206 JM079: This is turning out to be one positive year for the travel and tourism industry in Jamaica as this time it was named "Golf destination of the year for
207 JM02: The GOJ has applied for US$1.2 Billion for balance of payments support (not budgetary support, there is quite a difference). To privatize JM is estim
208 AirJamaica: Only '' time'' can answer that million dollar question. Agree. There is no absolutely doubt about that. As we have disclosed many times it is a win/w
209 HummingBird: I agree...During this winter, we will be seeing up to 5 daily flights on the JFK-MBJ route.. Its amazing that B6 recently started the route and has b
210 JM079: Rather unfortunate isn't it but it is true that one way or the other the national carrier has to be taken off the national treasury. Air Jamaica is j
211 JM02: JM is in effect a LCC carrier and that is the way the industry is going nowadays, it's the only way to keep your head above water and i for one fully
212 AirJamaica: As was recently posted, gone are the days when AA had daily year round wide bodies operating on JFK-MBJ. I am wondering if they have any future plans
213 Ilanbwoy: Hello all...been away from the thread for a while. Its been good reading today. 100 plus postings i had not read. Anyways, the Wesley Sampson thing..s
214 HummingBird: New Thread ready.. City Vibes- "Kingston" Jamaican Thread 21 (by HummingBird Nov 22 2009 in Civil Aviation)