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Martinair Cargo Routes Update  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5915 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 7046 times:

Martinair cargo have suspended Mexico City, Atlanta and Singapore in addition to Lima, Kuala Lumpur, they have also started Curacao besides Montevido and retained Chennai and Doha which were expected to be dropped, see winter schedule at http://cargo.martinair.com/wps/portal/mpcgo/

Previously discussed here AF-KL And MP Cargo Network Cuts (by 777way Oct 9 2009 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=4573476&searchid=4574952&s=af-klm+and+mp+cargo+network+cuts#ID4574952

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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 6761 times:

Well it's a shame to see ATL suspended. I always looked forward to seeing MP Cargo when there on a photo trip. Partially because they always came in on the north runways which meant a guarnateed view from the hotel balcony. But also because they were a bit "exotic" when compared to what one normally sees at ATL during the day.


Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9954 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6531 times:

Nice to see MP Cargo serving CUR but are these flights only fuelstops or are they also bringing and/or picking up cargo in CUR? Also, will they only use the MD11F or also the 744ERF? I assume only the MD11F?

A388


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5915 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6319 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Nice to see MP Cargo serving CUR but are these flights only fuelstops or are they also bringing and/or picking up cargo in CUR? Also, will they only use the MD11F or also the 744ERF? I assume only the MD11F?

Schedule for CUR operated with MD11 via fuel stop at Aguadilla (Puerto Rico).

http://cargo.martinair.com/wps/wcm/c...AM_25OCT09-31DEC09.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

http://cargo.martinair.com/wps/wcm/c...AM_25OCT09-31DEC09.pdf?MOD=AJPERES


User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6226 times:



Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
Chennai and Doha which were expected to be dropped

Incorrect

Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Nice to see MP Cargo serving CUR but are these flights only fuelstops?

Correct

Quoting 777way (Reply 3):
Schedule for CUR operated with MD11 via fuel stop at Aguadilla

Incorrect


Greetz, 76er


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5915 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6106 times:



Quoting 76er (Reply 4):
Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
Chennai and Doha which were expected to be dropped

Incorrect

Information based on the fact the two are excluded from the planned schedule of AF-KLM and MP cargo operating out of AMS which makes it seem they were to be dropped.

Quoting 76er (Reply 4):
Quoting 777way (Reply 3):
Schedule for CUR operated with MD11 via fuel stop at Aguadilla

Incorrect

Information based on official MP cargo website schedules provided in the links.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6080 times:



Quoting 777way (Thread starter):
besides Montevido

Very good to see MVD complementing MP cargo routes in South America. Recent additions of MP cargo in the region are also VCP in Brazil early this year and SCL in Chile last year.

Rgs,


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6010 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 6):
Recent additions of MP cargo in the region are also VCP in Brazil early this year

The VCP-AMS flight make a enroute stop at TFS. Fueling? Or does MP pickup some cargo business also on the Canaries?



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5966 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
The VCP-AMS flight make a enroute stop at TFS. Fueling?

Correct. And also a crew change.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5839 times:



Quoting 76er (Reply 8):
Correct. And also a crew change.



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
The VCP-AMS flight make a enroute stop at TFS. Fueling? Or does MP pickup some cargo business also on the Canaries?

It is for refueling. LH FRA-VCP B747F which operates 4 x week also makes a stop-over but in DKR instead.

Rgs,


User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5813 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 5):
Quoting 76er (Reply 4):
Quoting 777way (Reply 3):
Schedule for CUR operated with MD11 via fuel stop at Aguadilla

Incorrect

Information based on official MP cargo website schedules provided in the links.

The way I read it, the only flight to stop in CUR is the MP6717, which is routed EZE-MVD-CUR-AMS.

Still, pretty impressive network that they are running in South and Central America.

Yorden



Any Type, Any Time, Anywhere
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9954 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5608 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 3):
Schedule for CUR operated with MD11 via fuel stop at Aguadilla (Puerto Rico).

Nowhere does it state that the MP flight to CUR stops in Aguadilla.... Only the SJU operations go through Aguadilla as per the small remarks below the schedule.

A388


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5374 times:



Quoting SXI899 (Reply 10):
the MP6717, which is routed EZE-MVD-CUR-AMS

Not surprising that today doing my grossery shop I found more Uruguayan products than usual in Albert Heijn (Ahold Group Supermarket in Netherlands). Blackberries and meat are now tradtionally sources from Uruguay.

Any idea what are the other typical products carried by MP in MVD? It is impressive to see MP inroads in South America: service to SCL and EZE in 2008, VCP early in 2009 and now MVD. I think we could have a chance of MP in MAO in future.

Rgs,


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5325 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
The VCP-AMS flight make a enroute stop at TFS.

Where is the stop listed on the schedule?


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

it is really a shame that MP canceled LIM, and to be honest I can not understand it.
Currently it is the perishable high season from Peru, and all flights are fully booked, and space into Europe is limited, LAN is doing a hell of money via MIA on the freighter routes into AMS.

The key point is that the westbound yields into LIM are also healty and space limited. So I can really not understand the decicion....


cheers from Lima
Avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4936 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 13):
Where is the stop listed on the schedule?

LH B74F FRA-VCP stops in DKR. As mentioned above MP MD11F AMS-VCP stops in TFS. It is not listed in the schedule because it is operational stop only.

Rgs,


User currently offlineGecmd11 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4675 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 15):
LH B74F FRA-VCP stops in DKR. As mentioned above MP MD11F AMS-VCP stops in TFS. It is not listed in the schedule because it is operational stop only.

I Believe LCAG from VCP is all MD11F ??


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5260 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 days ago) and read 4646 times:



Quoting Avianca (Reply 14):
it is really a shame that MP canceled LIM, and to be honest I can not understand it.
Currently it is the perishable high season from Peru, and all flights are fully booked, and space into Europe is limited, LAN is doing a hell of money via MIA on the freighter routes into AMS.

Maybe KL is having a lot of cargo in the belly of the daily 777-200 to LIM?


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 days ago) and read 4615 times:



Quoting Gecmd11 (Reply 16):
I Believe LCAG from VCP is all MD11F ??

LCAG operates VCP with MD-11F and B777F (Aerologic). Aerologic is LH Cargo/DHL Express joint venture which also flies VCP and operates exclusive fleet of B777F.

Rgs,


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5915 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4561 times:



Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
Only the SJU operations go through Aguadilla as per the small remarks below the schedule.

I didnt read the thing properly, but why the stop at Aguadilla for SJU and why mention it? the other operational fuel stops arent there.


User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

BQN isn't just an operational stop, besides a crewchange and fuel, MP picks up cargo there too.

User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4412 times:

With the re-entrance of PH-MPR since 24Nov09, the previously stored B747-400BCF, will MP's operations see any significant changes?


"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5915 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4305 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 19):
BQN isn't just an operational stop, besides a crewchange and fuel, MP picks up cargo there too.

Then why isnt it listed in main schedule.


User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

I guess MP is still selling it as SJU, but for logistical/operational/financial reasons moved the flights to BQN, or San Juan-West in Ryanair-speak.  Wink

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